Are T17e and S17e solid choices for ASIC mining?

Hey everyone, I'm just getting started with Bitcoin mining. Someone's looking to sell me a few Antminer T17e and S17e units at a pretty decent price. I've come across some info saying the 17 series has some quality issues. I know my way around PC repairs, so I could probably handle fixing and running these miners. So, could anyone share their thoughts on whether these models (T17e and S17e) face the same issues? Are they actually worth picking up?

Hi, 1) Good electricity price 2) Asics are very loud 3) Asics are making heat 4) Asics need non dusty space 5) Asics need good air coinditioning space or good air fluctuation 6) Be lucky because this higher hashrate antminers are very bad quality (my friend bought 100 of them brand new directly from bitmain and 25% of them didn't even mine, but started and no claim, only sending back on his costs and then repair on his costs...) Maybe calculate it more times and also consider bitcoin still going up by tens of percent a year and maybe you will find out it is better to invest money directly rather than mining for maybe 2 years and have less Bitcoin then if you would buy in the very beginning. I hope I gave you some other/new opinion you came here for

BM 17 series: Expect about 25% failure ... But being 2nd hand, expect worse.

Thanks for the advice.  Are all the 17 series models equally bad?  I have read some comments that the S17 pro has better build quality and is a reliable machine.  I would really appreciate your opinion on whether that's true.  Many thanks.

Watch out for the S17 series I only have 3 S17 Pros, purchased new direct from Bitmain. The went strong for a year and then started having board after board die. They have 3 hashboards each. 7 of the 9 boards have failed and one power supply. In sending out for repair (not easy to find or quick), 2 were determined unrepairable. If you look on ebay, you will find quite a few non working or partially working units. My opinion, stay away from S17 series. Makes me worry about the S19, but just bought one a month ago. Whatsminers seem to have a pretty solid rep. I have one M20 I purchased from Whatsminer.net (not .com), that's been a trouble free workhorse for over a couple years now.

pretty not recommend,very bad quality,even 30% failure