Are trading bots really trustworthy

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luckykingFull Member
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#1Sep 15, 2024, 06:28 AM
Lately, there’s been a surge in bot trading, and tons of centralized exchanges are jumping on the bandwagon, even offering these services for free. But if it’s so easy, why isn’t it more popular? Sure, bot trading seems simpler since programmed algorithms handle the trades for you, but that’s really just part of the picture. You still have to set the parameters and tell it what to do, so you're basically doing all the heavy lifting. If your strategy isn’t solid, the bot will just keep losing money. It’s like you’re trading, but not really, which might explain why many people steer clear of it. Now, what if there’s a bot out there that actually analyzes trades and executes them? That could be a big deal, right? I’ve come across some investment bots that claim to do just that, but it leaves me wondering what kind of strategy they actually use. In short, I feel like trading bots can be pretty risky. What do you all think? Any thoughts or solutions?
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just_bridgeSenior Member
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#2Sep 15, 2024, 10:23 AM
There are been different conversations on trading both on this forum for as long as 2016. There different experiences with it. To an extent, I do agree that trading bots can be effect and profitable however, it is not just any trading bots. Profitable trading bots require that their creators have  expertise knowledge in trading to be able to make one. Even though there are many trading bots that are advertised out there that are many of them are just overhyped. There is also the scam side to some trading bot. Some of them are just pure scams, traders who use them will have their money stolen as that is what they have been coded to do. Trading bot scam
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#3Sep 15, 2024, 01:17 PM
I personally use like these Bybit Bots and except 1 liquidation they working fine with nice profit I prefer them over manual trading actually
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luckykingFull Member
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#4Sep 15, 2024, 04:33 PM
Yeah, scams are everywhere disguised as trading bot, you mentioning the creators having an expertise knowledge is also a good point to consider
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fox_byteHero Member
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#5Sep 15, 2024, 07:11 PM
The main advantage of trading bots is that you don't need to be online 24/7 to monitor and execute trades, you can set up the bot, program it and go on with your life, so instead of trading being a full-time job you can consider it a part-time job. Other than that and the speed of executing orders, there is no fundamental difference between it and normal trading, so unless your strategy is good and the risks are calculated, you will not make profits.
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viper_blockSenior Member
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#6Sep 15, 2024, 11:06 PM
If you wants to know what strategies that the bot used, you needs to learns the bot before you use the bot. Without learning, you will not know anything and just use the bot but you will difficult to make a profit using that bot. Trading bots are risky depends on the user itself because as long as they wants to spend their time to learns the bot, they can manages the risks and will not just trade randomly. They will still use analyze to check the market and running their bot if they are sure that the market runs as the same as their analysis. But it is not easy to find which bots that can works based on the market movements. It is better you learn about analyzing the market from many sources so you can improve your skills and you don't have to use bot to trade.
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alex.shardLegendary
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#7Sep 16, 2024, 12:23 AM
The bots make use of technical analyses like overbought and oversold market, trends, support and resistance and some other ones. But what of fundamental analyses? I do not think the bots make use of such. Also technical analyses may not be accurate which makes the bots not accurate. The best is to learn about trading and trade yourself.
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anonSenior Member
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#8Sep 16, 2024, 02:31 AM
Such bots doesn't exist... What everybot is designed using someone's strategy. You just input it then design your bit. When it comes across your strategy playing out in the market, it places an order using the risk to reward ratio that you selected. For me, I don't see any sense trading it bot. Remember trading is a skill that once you get, you are made for life. So why think much about being profitable when you can't analyze the market on your own. Buying bots from someone to trade is good to sole point, but you aren't a trader mate. You are just some investor who if the bot fails someday, you will not be able to trade the market.. Most of these bot are scam so be careful mate
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#9Sep 16, 2024, 05:50 AM
Because trader in crypto is so impatient that usually want to see return immediately as soon as they use trade bot. Also setting up a bot is one of the concern for most trader since they don’t know what’s the good range or how the bot works technically. Even copy trading is now become less popular. I’m not sure if pushing the bot will be really successful on crypto traders that wants immediate result.
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cobr4404Full Member
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#10Sep 16, 2024, 11:29 AM
This is the best solution. Thanks for sharing. TBH, I don't know what's the main purpose of trading, or who are the ones that are using trading bots. I mean we all have different lifestyles and for me, I have lots of time to use to trade that's why it doesn't make sense for me to use trading bots. Maybe for those who have small free time to look at the charts and still want to make a decent profit then maybe they can use trading bots provided that they already set the parameters for it. Well, since I want to learn about trading next year, I guess I'll put small amount of my money to these trading bots to see how they perform. 2-3 months would be enough for an experiment I guess.
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bit2016Full Member
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#11Sep 16, 2024, 12:25 PM
Trading bots may indeed offer convenience but their effectiveness heavily depends on the strategy they are programmed with. Without expertise from either the creator or the user these bots often fall short or even result in losses. It’s also true that scams are inevitable when it comes to bots. Some bots are nothing more than traps designed to drain users' funds. So if you're considering trying out bots they need to be transparent. Look for bots with verifiable performance histories, clear explanations of their strategies and communities that can vouch for their legitimacy.
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k3vin4peSenior Member
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#12Sep 16, 2024, 06:32 PM
@OP, the best thing you can do for yourself if you actually want to go into trading is to learn how to trade by yourself and not to rely on trading bot. I have not used any of the current trending trading bots apart from the Averaging bot on kucoin which you have to automate it to buy at a certain low and sell at a certain high, I only tried it out a few times before I stopped usingusing it. There are some trading bots that's being advised on YouTube and some other social media, the advertisers said the boy can trade crypto futuree and generate 100% profit, those are all fale words and just q scheme to make you buy the bot.
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its_foxSenior Member
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#13Sep 16, 2024, 07:19 PM
If theres one like that then its possibly trending and hype now. Its not like its not available but the AI boy has also con like it doesnt really perfect how a succesful trader could do. Its still following analysis from historical data and use it for its execution. It cannot predict an accurate potential market movement as it anticipate the only available data.
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calmomegaSenior Member
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#14Sep 16, 2024, 09:20 PM
Bots are just used mostly for timed trades or immediate executions when price points hits a certain point that you indicated. It makes monitoring less of a hassle since, well, you don't have to do it all the time. Heck if you're good enough I reckon you can be a full time trader even if you're not looking at charts for most of the day. As for a bot that self analyzes the market and trades by itself, I'd much rather do copy trading than do something as risky as that. At least in copy trading I can blame someone else! God knows how much shit would go on if such a bot is actually used for trading.
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block2015Full Member
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#15Sep 17, 2024, 11:02 AM
Actually trading is something  that I believe is best done by yourself, that way you get a real-time control over what is happening on your portfolio,  this is because setting these parameters, sometimes there are conditions of the market that may not meet up with  these parameters and that alone in it self becomes a serious pitfalls to your trade since you don't intend to monitor the trade Real time, no strategy is perfect and so they still need some level of monitoring even after you may have done the analysis,  even getting a more expensive robot that will do the analysis for you will still have its pitfalls as the algorithm may at some point need updating which if you don't you will still loose even trying to use the bot, so basically trading by yourself is the best if you are going to be in for the long term but if you are doing for the short term then maybe you could proceed with the bots
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miner2011Senior Member
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#16Sep 19, 2024, 02:48 PM
You know in the real matter of OP, for me that trading bot is not profitable, because if that is really profitable then the amount of testified that many have got a big profit there. Think about that, right? The only one who believes in the trading bot is the novices that are lazy to learn the trading and rely on the bots of their earnings, something that is the wrong way of their approach.
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john88Full Member
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#17Sep 19, 2024, 04:22 PM
You have answered your own question. Because in trading bots all parameters are determined by the creator of the bot itself, such as strategy, buy, sell, and various other things, and that makes trading can be executed automatically as long as the bot is operating. However, because the ones trading are bots and not humans, it means that users really hand over their trading to bots, whether it will be a loss or profit, users only rely on the bot - while the market itself is dynamic and can change at any time, errors from bots can be fatal and result in severe losses, and because of this more traders do not trust bots in their trading.
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0xN0nceSenior Member
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#18Sep 19, 2024, 06:46 PM
I believe you are talking about two things now. 1. A bot that is trading for you because you set parameters 2. An AI deciding for you on what to trade and execute them for you That's what I have gotten with your post. I believe the AI agents now, with the trend, are getting better and better, and it continues to, and I believe it's another market that has blown up and will continue to. I think it's going to be continuously growing, and a lot more AI agents are coming up, and I see potential in it. If you would rather setup yourself the trading parameters, get a bot like Gunbot. If not, find an AI agent that would trade for you.
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calmguruSenior Member
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#19Sep 19, 2024, 09:16 PM
The aim is to make you become more lazy and yeah you seem to be defeated already. Of course, bot will reduce your workload but you aware they are being built by human and malfunction at times. Handling over your trade to bot to carries out means you are giving your financial decisions to a second person to decide for you while you be the one to bear the risk. Does that sound cool to you? Trading deals with psychology, you have to prove you are man enough to handle it. You can not make use of that tittle "trader" if you use bot to trade. You are not just a trader by executing the order, analysis make you become one and you can not runaway from it and still be called a trader.
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ColdBossFull Member
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#20Sep 19, 2024, 11:12 PM
We do have bots, we do have copy and follow trading on which users or traders will really be able to make use on and this isnt really that a bad feature either and somewhat being useful. The wrong impressions only on here is that on the moment that these newbie people will be that having those kind of thinking that this is really that making them some profits or money printer for them without realizing that strategies and methods should be that applied. You can see these things to be useful when you do really know on how to make use of it but if you do have those kind of newbie impressions then it will be something that you dont really be that appreciating about on what are these things because you dont know on what it is all about. On the time that you do already have that knowledge and skills or awareness about bots and copy trades then you'll be laughing into those past beliefs that you do have. Reliability of trading bots isnt something that should be thinking by someone because its a tool that it is really that good for automation and not something that gives out guaranteed profits or not. If you wont be that careful into those kind of beleifs then it will be resulting into those loses because of misuse due to misbelief. Sooner or later you will be having that kind of realization that these arent the things that you will be able to make use of bots. You will be finding its usefulness at the time that you do really know its usage and on what it is all about.
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