Bitcoin investment vs starting a physical business

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tom.foxFull Member
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#1Mar 2, 2017, 01:37 PM
Hey everyone, hope you're all doing great. I'm here looking for some advice and to share what’s been on my mind. A few months back, I put my savings into Bitcoin, and man, the price has changed a ton since then. It’s gone up a lot, and I'm seeing some nice profits from my investment. I'm about to graduate next year, and my plan is to dive into my Bitcoin gains instead of hunting for a job. I’ve been thinking that if I start working on my business now instead of waiting, I might build some recognition and by the time I graduate, I could be pulling in decent profits. So, I'm looking to set up an oil factory. I want to gather all the raw materials to produce and sell oil because, you know, oil is a big deal and I believe I could make good money with the right management. Here’s the big question: should I cash out my Bitcoin now and kickstart my business, or is it better to hold onto it for a while longer? Also, what do you think about me keeping my Bitcoin and maybe taking out a bank loan to fund my venture instead? Would love to hear your thoughts!
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sam.bullSenior Member
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#2Mar 2, 2017, 05:35 PM
Nobody can help you make such important decision and I'd advice doing such Because nobody understands your goals, capabilities and resource more than you And most time our views are subjective. Bitcoin is an investment not a business. As long as you confident in your ability to run the business You can go for it You don't have to sell everything. And once business commences you can use some proceed to DCA. I think this is what I would have done.
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greg.bearMember
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#3Mar 3, 2017, 07:15 PM
Investment decisions are better made by the investor himself. You should evaluate your options and make the best decision for yourself. I would only add that this decision should be made by you within this year, next year the bear cycle might kickstart and the price of Bitcoin may start crashing, then your portfolio would decrease in value until another bull run after 2028 halving when it would likely go back up. There is no guarantee that the price of Bitcoin would continue going increasingly up, so you should act on your discretion. Most likely, holding for much longer would see you have better profits in years to come if you can stand the test of the bear cycle without panic selling in case you decided to continue holding.
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raven_maxiSenior Member
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#4Mar 3, 2017, 08:33 PM
I don't know where you are from or how hard working you are to start up a business and follow up through I am not in any place to give you this type of advice and I don't believe anyone is able to give you a direct answer to what you seek. A few months ago you invested in Bitcoin as you said but is that when you actually started to know about Bitcoin? How much have you learnt about Bitcoin in this time and what do you think the future holds for bitcoin this are questions you should ask yourself. Also have you successfully owned a business before now, how are others doing in that same business in your area, are you able to give in your time so it can work out. Don't ask strangers for advice on this type of decision.
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real_ledgerFull Member
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#5Mar 4, 2017, 12:17 AM
Kick-starting a business with a loan is not always profitable for all; only a few are always lucky enough to make good profits out of it—enough to pay off the loan and the interest and still have something to keep the business going. Your business is something you will be able to build up a path with. If you consider the money you have invested in Bitcoin with the savings to be enough to pilot the business, why then consider taking a loan? You invested for profit in the first place, and if you have enough to use it for what is going to be useful, it's better you do that than take a loan, which you will have to pay interest on later on.
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alex.shardLegendary
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#6Mar 4, 2017, 02:31 AM
If you have money in bitcoin, it is better you sell your bitcoin than to take a loan from the bank. But if bitcoin price is low, I would have advised you otherwise but such advise is not good this time. You can make some profit in your business and have some savings in it and you can be using it to buy bitcoin if they are not in use of the savings for now.
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mark.gasFull Member
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#7Mar 4, 2017, 06:47 AM
No one can tell you what to do. It's your decision to make, but the idea of taking a loan to start up a business does not sit well with me. If you do not have capital, it's a different ball game, but you do have capital, and yet you want to take up a loan? Well, like I said earlier, the decision is yours and yours alone to make.
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maxi2017Senior Member
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#8Mar 4, 2017, 07:19 AM
No one can tell you what to do, let alone some random people on an online forum.  Your Bitcoin investment and your business are two separate things, each with their own risks.  Bitcoin has had a great run, but it is not the guaranteed path to riches.  A business, however, is fully in your control.  The outcomes are literally based on your effort, talent, and decisions.  You are betting on yourself. So the question you need to ask yourself is: are you more confident that you can create a viable business than you are confident that Bitcoins price will behave as you expect it to?  Is your business idea a better bet than no idea and a completely unpredictable market?  Are you ready to risk the profits you already made on a new business?
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fork69Full Member
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#9Mar 4, 2017, 08:22 AM
Though i don't know you neither do i know how much you have in your bitcoin holding but do you know that it cost a lot to build an oil factory? and it may take you a long time to build even if you have the money ready so if you consider the stress and money that you will use to build a factory, it would have been better to hold and if possible you add more to your portfolio. Oil business is very profitable and you can still use the profits to invest in bitcoin just that the processes involved is what is very hectic.
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DarkR0ck3tFull Member
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#10Mar 5, 2017, 06:47 PM
Your investment, your own rule. However, personally, I would not rush on selling all my bitcoin because there are still chances that the current value will still be double or triple in the next months and years, but taking time to sell part of your bitcoin investment can be a good idea. At least, you can benefit the profits now and you still have something to benefit in the future as well. Now on your oil business, if you are skillful on it and won’t require a lot of capital, then go on. But if it means selling all your bitcoin to finance your business, think of it first a thousand times. I don’t want you to regret in the future, or maybe you could start your business when you already gained sufficient amount of profits that you can start as your capital.
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jake.seedFull Member
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#11Mar 5, 2017, 07:22 PM
You have a very good plan of business and if you’re able to pull this through, you would loved this moment you were able to make this choice and went for it. Every business is always on paper until when proven, so that is the most difficult part of business that if you’re not able to manage it well will affect your entire business and may not be successful. It is worth trying than not trying at all. Nothing is certain but when one try, they can learn and become better from their experience and business. Selling your Bitcoin to put into a business is a personal choice and your own choice of weighing them both which will be more profitable for you in the long run. Bitcoin is already a profitable investment that if you can keep for the long term, you’ll be happy you did. Also having another source of income that can help build your portfolio more is also a good thing. So both starting a business with your own money and holding bitcoin are good choice of investments.
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just_k1ngMember
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#12Mar 5, 2017, 08:58 PM
Good question op. Bitcoin is a very valuable asset and it is becoming more valuable day by day. If you hold your Bitcoin, then you can get good profits from it. However, if you can build a successful physical business, then it can give you much more profits. However, there is no guarantee that you will be successful in your business, but if you hold Bitcoin, then you will definitely be able to make profits. Because the price of Bitcoin will only continue to be expensive in the future. Now the main thing is, if you are confident that you can be successful in business. And if you do not have any other financial support for the capital of the business other than Bitcoin, then you can sell your Bitcoin. Otherwise, it is better to hold it.
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shard_gweiFull Member
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#13Mar 5, 2017, 11:27 PM
Actually, although it is not right to advise anyone like this, I want to tell you that since your Bitcoin investment is now very profitable, you can sell your Bitcoin investment and start your business. If you start your business and with the profit that comes from that business, if you can constantly invest in Bitcoin using the DCA method, you can achieve more success in that field. The reason is that your Bitcoin investment will also be made and your Bitcoin investment will gradually become successful. And if you can maintain it for a long time, you will achieve more success in that field. Moreover, I never advise you to take a loan to grow your business or Bitcoin investment because if you take a loan to start your business and grow your Bitcoin investment, you will not get much success and you will see that you can also get into danger. So, leaving everything aside, continue your studies and start a business by selling your Bitcoin and with the profit that comes from the business, you will constantly invest in Bitcoin and you will see that you are successful in all aspects.
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block_hashFull Member
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#14Mar 7, 2017, 04:28 AM
Though we don't know what will happen to the btc market in the next years to come, if you have the strong belief that it will do good, better not sell it and hold it as long as you have other contingencies on hand. Investing to a certain asset, is like you have the belief that it will eventually give you positive profit in the future. So if you think you can gain from this market, you can always get a hold of this currency and invest at your own will and at your own risk. Do remember, the one who's taking care of your assets is yourself, so you are responsible in managing these assets as well.
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humbleseedFull Member
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#15Mar 9, 2017, 03:58 PM
OP: hola Let's focus on the topic at hand, "Bitcoin discussion." I think your title blurs your thoughts and context. Yes, the idea is clear, but you're comparing a tangible good with an intangible one, and you're trying to weigh them against each other. It's like when... and I don't know how old you are, but at certain stages of life; you might think it's better to buy a car versus taking on a house. These aren't difficult dilemmas to resolve, but they are intrinsic, even emotional, things that only you can resolve. So, to put it simply: if you go into a beer bar, you don't order a glass of milk. I hope you get the point.
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real_pixelSenior Member
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#16Mar 9, 2017, 07:05 PM
Only you can answer this because you know what you're holding, and you know what your plans are. As much as I have this dilemma as well before, I did mistakes of thinking that my potential business and other investments will be successful and I have to pull some funds out of my bitcoin holdings. But, they turned out to be bad and I've lost money on them. If I didn't use my bitcoin holdings there, I'd be in great profit. Though past is past, I've learned from that mistake and I know that holding bitcoin is more preferable, effortless and more profitable.
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ninja2014Member
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#17Mar 9, 2017, 08:04 PM
I would advise you to sell your bitcoin and invest in your business, as once your business grow you can always buy more bitcoins as a saving or investment, but right now, if you wanna start it, simply sell bitcoin and go ahead with it.
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#18Mar 9, 2017, 09:39 PM
First of all, what type of oil do you want to venture into? Is it crude oil, palm oil or vegetable oil? Which of them precisely. Because if it is a Crude oil factory, which is also known as Refinery, you will be needing over $10billion dollars to kick start such business, unlike the rest two that you can confidently start with $10,000 thousand dollars and above, depending on your size. And moreover, when it comes to the investing in Bitcoin and physical trading, I can boldly say both has it's advantage and disadvantages, as Bitcoin is best as an asset for long term, whereas physical trading is best for short term investments.
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d4rk5tackSenior Member
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#19Mar 10, 2017, 02:57 AM
This is not a bad decision to be make by OP but the real question is how much does OP holds in bitcoin, you cannot simply hold little thousands in bitcoin and expect to actually venture into business, one thing scary about business is that the huge reward that comes after getting it right is same as the huge risk that it carries after it fails. My first question to OP is how did he manage to accumulate the current amount of bitcoin that he has and if it is another source of income then OP should first of all strength that source of income first before moving into business. For me bitcoin isn’t a stream of income all the time so having a business that generates extra income is definitely good but at this point business is definitely a huge risk but it is worth trying, so what OP should be doing is actually looking into making his current source of income strong so that the buying of bitcoin he has been doing wouldn’t stop and then after accessing the risk in the business can invest into that business, if it is possible OP can seek partnership to help reduce the funding risk he will bear alone
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0xTokenMember
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#20Mar 10, 2017, 03:18 AM
Investing in Bitcoin or a physical business is a personal decision and you have to decide which one is applicable for you. Investing in Bitcoin is risky and you will not get a sudden profit from it, so you will not get the amount of money you spend in your daily life by investing in Bitcoin. But if you do a physical business or trading, your daily expenses or profit and loss will be calculated every day, which will not cause any problem in running your daily life. However, both can be done, especially if you invest half of the capital you decide in Bitcoin and use the remaining half to do physical trading.
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