Bitcoin is headed to zero

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GigaForkFull Member
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#1Jun 22, 2019, 11:17 AM
The government will definitely ensure Bitcoin's downfall... somehow. There’s this rumor floating around that Bitcoin was created for some shady purposes. Did Jeffrey Epstein have a hand in making Bitcoin? Or maybe the CIA did it? MIKE BENZ says, "I’ve publicly stated before that both Bitcoin and Epstein can be understood mainly as tools for money laundering. Plus, there are emails involving Larry Summers, who used to be the U.S. Treasury head."
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p1x3l365Senior Member
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#2Jun 22, 2019, 02:18 PM
They could not kill Bitcoin, failed to make Bitcoin collapses in past years when Bitcoin was younger and more vulnerable to attacks to death but it has never been dead. Governments already wasted their most perfect times and opportunities to make Bitcoin collapses and they will not be able to do this in the future. Bitcoin obituraries with less and less "Bitcoin is dead" calls with time. Who knows? But likely Bitcoin was not created by Jeffrey Epstein. Likely not from the CIA too. Gavin will visit the CIA.
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cobra2013Senior Member
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#3Jun 22, 2019, 04:01 PM
The same has tried googol times. The same has failed each time. Smothering regulations, FUD, and what have you didn't kill Bitcoin during its infancy. It won't now when it has grown up strong and resilient. If official policies and "scam", "fraud", and other labels coming from powerful and influential people in the world sorely failed to bring down Bitcoin before, what makes you think doctored emails would bring it down today?
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GigaNodeSenior Member
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#4Jun 22, 2019, 07:51 PM
Conspiracy content farming just like the content said, I don't see anything else. They are trying so hard to bring Bitcoin down, it's a FUD because even Epstein can't prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, it is very easy to prove that anyone is Nakamoto by using signing and also log into their Bitcointalk forum, it's easy. But sadly it's hard for imposters to prove anything isn't it? X Even if Epstein is Nakamoto there is no prove of it, and this is a win for Bitcoin still, but Epstein isn't here anymore so anyone can easily lied that Epstein made Bitcoin and since Epstein is dirty Bitcoin is also dirty, right? That's their problem.
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quantumninjaFull Member
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#5Jun 23, 2019, 01:16 AM
Do you really want to discuss such topics here? There has been no news in the media for a long time about the imminent death of bitcoin. And so, we waited for this. Which government exactly? Give specifics? Government of El Salvador? USA? But if they “destroy” bitcoin, then they themselves will lose a lot of money. Your words sound just like a tabloid headline. So many people have already been called the creator of bitcoin that you involuntarily begin to suspect that the true Satoshi may be hiding under the inconspicuous personality of my neighbor. This speculation will never end. It is not clear who the BTC-creator is, because we will NOT know. What nonsense they say in the media.
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quantumbearHero Member
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#6Jun 23, 2019, 01:26 AM
Bitcoin is going on zero has been used by some critics in the past, so I am not surprised if I see anyone said that but the main thing is that bitcoin will continue to increase after the hear market and get to all time high just as usual while the critics will be disappointed. Just know that many people have been linked to Satoshi but the real Satoshi has not been known. Epstein is not even really linked to Satoshi than some other people that claimed that they are not Satoshi.
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anonSenior Member
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#7Jun 23, 2019, 07:26 AM
There is something you should never forget and that is the fact that Bitcoin is here to stay, from how much the government has tried to control it before now.  In certain countries like mine, Bitcoin is not a legal tender but yet a bill of tax has been placed on it's transactions just to show how much they are thirsty to control it even when it is not legally accepted. The economic battle between Bitcoin and the global political system has been before now, right from the days they started to see that it will cause a huge impact on the world economy, the world leaders are still struggling to do so till date and trust me, it will always thrive and continue to grow even more than what it is now. Or who wound have thought Bitcoin will be used one day for international transactions? But that's just the fact about it, it (Bitcoin) is a world on its own with its own rules and it can never be infiltrated.
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matrix365Senior Member
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#8Jun 23, 2019, 07:51 AM
Jeffrey Epstein is a first time to be mentioned as Satoshi Nakamoto. With his communication in the past with Bitcoin developers, if any developer had doubt that Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto, they already raised this conspriracy theory in past years. In fact, we have never read such conspiracy theory and it's completely non sense to speculate that Epstein is Satoshi Nakamoto. No reasons technically to think Epstein is the Bitcoin founder. There are better candidates
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#9Jun 23, 2019, 01:21 PM
Money laundering omg,,, do people still not get just how shitty Bitcoin is to be used as a tool for money laundering?  For sure there are all kinds of other tools withing BTC to make tracing it harder and harder,,, but when you can link everything and cannot erase or hide txs,,, BTC is a bad bad choice.
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ape_cipherFull Member
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#10Jun 24, 2019, 03:40 AM
If they can’t kill bitcoin when it first started they cannot kill it now, it is true that bitcoin is facing a bad time right now because it is reducing in price however this has happened in the past and a lot of people said a lot of things that never happened. Government has no control over bitcoin and you can’t kill what you can’t see or touch there’s no way government will be able to kill bitcoin mark my word. The government has never been a fan of bitcoin simply because bitcoin has given people financial freedom and the government don’t want that they always want to control the finance system of the people and for that reason they have tried to kill bitcoin and they couldn’t succeed and that is why you see some government now joining in investing in bitcoin just like they say if you can’t beat them you join them.
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eric.wolfFull Member
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#11Jun 24, 2019, 05:55 AM
Why would the governments “waste” their time and money investing on bitcoin and making pro-bitcoin laws just for them to plot to ruin it? Is it all a ploy? Anyway, bitcoin won’t die because even before governments entered bitcoin, it has been existing already.
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#12Jun 26, 2019, 01:17 AM
I think the reason is simply that a bearmarket has begun, and the scandals around bitcoin are just contributing to a faster decline. The fact that bitcoin is called a CIA project or is associated with various dirty financial activities like human trafficking or pedophilia doesn’t seem to me like something that could kill bitcoin. Fiat money is also used in many shady schemes and by secret intelligence agencies in different countries, yet it hasn’t disappeared anywhere.
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1t5_omegaHero Member
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#13Jun 27, 2019, 02:11 AM
Lol. The OP always starts threads like this, with the most conspiracy-theory-driven sources. He must live alone on some mountain in Wyoming, isolated from any social environment. Has no one put it yet? Come on, I'll do it. Bitcoin Is Dead Bonus track: “Bitcoin is going to Zero” - Dan Peña
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gang2009Full Member
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#14Jun 27, 2019, 02:29 AM
This case is quite political and many people are involved, so there is much wider speculation everywhere and currently there has been such a deep price drop for Bitcoin that speculation has spread even further. Some people say that Jeffrey Epstein was involved with bitcoin and maybe from what point of view they relate to it and I don't want to find out because it would be much more extensive. Many critics have previously said that Bitcoin will go to zero, but where are they now and should we care, be afraid or will it happen? So the answer is to look at the history of Bitcoin's journey so that a much more realistic view of Bitcoin's current cycle will emerge. We will face another conspiracy in this matter?
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dan.whaleFull Member
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#15Jun 27, 2019, 05:05 AM
More critics looking for ways to make bitcoin look stupid in the eyes of many. They just don't give up and bitcoin won't do same. Since the release of this Epstein file,many rumours have been flying around. But I guess this is yet another false claim, to the government and opportunity to exploit bitcoin. They failed and will continue to. They couldn't stop bitcoin in the early days of it's creation. Though they criticised it, but failed at several attempts. They still won't be able to do it now. Even if these fake rumors suddenly seems to impact price negatively, bitcoin will still stand strong. It will just take a little bitty time..
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benledgerSenior Member
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#16Jun 27, 2019, 07:06 AM
Why would they "kill the goose that lays the golden eggs". Surely they dont see Bitcoin as a threat to FIAT? assuming you mean more that one government? Since traditional investment and financiers have gotten their dirty hands on Bitcoin they are not going to let it happen Anyway the idea that governments are going to kill Bitcoin is not new, its has been expressed throughout the hears and here we are 17 years later and still thriving. The idea is almost as archaic as the "Bitcoin is only used by criminals" approach.
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matrix365Senior Member
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#17Jun 27, 2019, 09:51 AM
Time flies and in 2026, it is not longer right to say Bitcoin is only used by criminals. It is very clearly wrong and nobody can prove that saying is true at all. Bitcoin has been developed, accepted and supported very decentralized especially since the January 2024 Bitcoin Spot ETF approvals in the USA, it has been more deeply engaging in tradition market and institutional investors, governments have more interest in Bitcoin. It is no longer time for them to think of Killing Bitcoin but how to be earlier adopters among hundreds of governments in order to create big advantage for themselves.
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the_sageFull Member
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#18Jun 27, 2019, 02:55 PM
i heard some stories like this i honestly dont believe it to be true, yea maybe they had money in it an it may have been a major amount but investing init isnt a crime. yes it may affect it in the mean time while the files are still being released but people will move on for it and hoping bitcoin will recover. yea bitcoin is a great way to launder money but this is a global probelm with the super rich not just these people
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stack_2019Full Member
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#19Jun 28, 2019, 08:03 AM
Well, not all the governments showing positive stances towards Bitcoin are actually in love with it or want it to stay around forever, because they know that if the usage of Bitcoin becomes too prevalent and people start using Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies more than traditional fiat currencies, things are not going to be the same for them anymore. Imagine an intelligence agency bureau trying to investigate a person through their finances and during that investigation, they want to close or freeze their accounts, funds and all incoming and outgoing transactions, etc., but that person doesn't use a bank account but only Bitcoin. How are they going to do it? There are many more examples which makes is clear that it is going to make governments and centralized authorities lose a lot of control over people if Bitcoin is used more widely than fiat all around the world, which is the reason why they will always keep trying to push it down and push it away, but they have been failing at that miserably over the course of Bitcoin's existence, and it is going to be the case in the future as well.
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lynx_rocketSenior Member
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#20Jun 28, 2019, 01:52 PM
Fiat is the most easiest way to luander money, our politicians do this alot in my country, they don't dare use something as complicated as Bitcoin to keep stolen funds, they will easily be exposed. Bitcoin is the last thing anyone wants to use to launder money, there are traces and tracks you will left behind, it is impossible to clean those traces. Is it not too late for this ? Now that the power elites are into Bitcoin, successfully approved ETF and you want them to now believe that Epstein is responsible for Bitcoin? What a joke.
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