Hey everyone!
I’m looking for some advice from you all. I'm thinking about getting a bunch of bitcoin miners (specifically the Avalon 840). I know they don’t use a ton of electricity individually, but since I’m planning to buy around 200 of them, my electricity bill is gonna be about 50k a year based on the rates here in my country. I crunched the numbers and figured that to cover the costs and keep everything running, I’m gonna need the Bitcoin price to be around 12.5k. So here’s my question for you folks:
- Do you think Bitcoin will dip below the 13k mark?
And if anyone here has experience with this specific miner, I’d love to hear your thoughts on it.
Thanks to everyone who replies!
Bitcoin mining profitability and price concerns
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#2Oct 31, 2024, 11:26 AM
Okay they do 10-12tb so 2000-2400 if you have 200.
2000 x .32 = 640 a day x 365 = over 200k
minus your bill of 50k for power means over 150k profit in a year.
first how much are you paying?
second is the gear coming from a good seller?
third two hundred pieces will make heat. so how do you cool gear.
fourth you need a lot of wires etc to set it up.
next does price drop?
does the diff jump?
all in all maybe you are in over your head if you never ran a farm with 200 pieces shit happens.
hey!
so to answer some of your questions:
- I found a supllier in china that sells them 197$/piece so in total it will coast around 40000$
- the gear is used acording to the seller but I don't know for how many time it kept runing.
- for the heat I have a larg basement (500m²) that prety cold most of the year and have exit hoals for ventilation and if it's not enought I will install air conditioning (with electricity prices it will not coast much).
- for the setup I already have a budget for that and planin on seeing an industial electrician to do the instalation.
- now for the price drops and all I calculated that I need a minimum price of 13k to be able to pay bills and all.
but the thing is I didn't take the increasing mining difficulty into account and I redid the calculations with an online tool that includes the difficilty increase so for a difficulty increase of 2% and a Btc price of 47000$ I had this result
Start Date Network Hashrate Revenue Elec. Costs Profit Total Profit Payback Progress Difficulty Change
Week 1 219.49EH/s ฿ 0.04113203 ฿ 0.01829343 ฿ 0.02283860 ฿ 0.02283860 2.71 % 2%
$ 1953.77 $ 868.94 $ 1084.83 $ 1084.83
Week 2 223.88EH/s ฿ 0.15195559 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.08302185 ฿ 0.10586045 12.57 % 2%
$ 7217.89 $ 3274.35 $ 3943.54 $ 5028.37
Week 3 228.36EH/s ฿ 0.14897607 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.08004233 ฿ 0.18590277 22.08 % 2%
$ 7076.36 $ 3274.35 $ 3802.01 $ 8830.38
Week 4 232.93EH/s ฿ 0.14605497 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.07712123 ฿ 0.26302400 31.23 % 2%
$ 6937.61 $ 3274.35 $ 3663.26 $ 12493.64
Week 5 237.58EH/s ฿ 0.14319115 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.07425740 ฿ 0.33728141 40.05 % 2%
$ 6801.58 $ 3274.35 $ 3527.23 $ 16020.87
Week 6 242.34EH/s ฿ 0.14038348 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.07144973 ฿ 0.40873114 48.54 % 2%
$ 6668.22 $ 3274.35 $ 3393.86 $ 19414.73
Week 7 247.18EH/s ฿ 0.13763086 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.06869712 ฿ 0.47742826 56.69 % 2%
$ 6537.47 $ 3274.35 $ 3263.11 $ 22677.84
Week 8 252.13EH/s ฿ 0.13493222 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.06599847 ฿ 0.54342673 64.53 % 2%
$ 6409.28 $ 3274.35 $ 3134.93 $ 25812.77
Week 9 257.17EH/s ฿ 0.13228649 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.06335274 ฿ 0.60677947 72.06 % 2%
$ 6283.61 $ 3274.35 $ 3009.26 $ 28822.03
Week 10 262.31EH/s ฿ 0.12969264 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.06075889 ฿ 0.66753836 79.27 % 2%
$ 6160.40 $ 3274.35 $ 2886.05 $ 31708.07
Week 11 267.56EH/s ฿ 0.12714964 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.05821590 ฿ 0.72575426 86.18 % 2%
$ 6039.61 $ 3274.35 $ 2765.26 $ 34473.33
Week 12 272.91EH/s ฿ 0.12465651 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.05572277 ฿ 0.78147703 92.80 % 2%
$ 5921.18 $ 3274.35 $ 2646.83 $ 37120.16
Week 13 278.37EH/s ฿ 0.12221227 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.05327852 ฿ 0.83475555 99.13 % 2%
$ 5805.08 $ 3274.35 $ 2530.73 $ 39650.89
Week 14 283.94EH/s ฿ 0.11981595 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.05088220 ฿ 0.88563775 105.17 % 2%
$ 5691.26 $ 3274.35 $ 2416.90 $ 42067.79
Week 15 289.61EH/s ฿ 0.11746662 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.04853287 ฿ 0.93417063 110.93 % 2%
$ 5579.66 $ 3274.35 $ 2305.31 $ 44373.10
Week 16 295.41EH/s ฿ 0.11516335 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.04622960 ฿ 0.98040023 116.42 % 2%
$ 5470.26 $ 3274.35 $ 2195.91 $ 46569.01
Week 17 301.31EH/s ฿ 0.11290524 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.04397150 ฿ 1.02437173 121.64 % 2%
$ 5363.00 $ 3274.35 $ 2088.65 $ 48657.66
Week 18 307.34EH/s ฿ 0.11069142 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.04175767 ฿ 1.06612940 126.60 % 2%
$ 5257.84 $ 3274.35 $ 1983.49 $ 50641.15
Week 19 313.49EH/s ฿ 0.10852100 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.03958725 ฿ 1.10571665 131.30 % 2%
$ 5154.75 $ 3274.35 $ 1880.39 $ 52521.54
Week 20 319.76EH/s ฿ 0.10639313 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.03745939 ฿ 1.14317604 135.75 % 2%
$ 5053.67 $ 3274.35 $ 1779.32 $ 54300.86
Week 21 326.15EH/s ฿ 0.10430699 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.03537325 ฿ 1.17854929 139.95 % 2%
$ 4954.58 $ 3274.35 $ 1680.23 $ 55981.09
Week 22 332.68EH/s ฿ 0.10226176 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.03332801 ฿ 1.21187730 143.91 % 2%
$ 4857.43 $ 3274.35 $ 1583.08 $ 57564.17
Week 23 339.33EH/s ฿ 0.10025663 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.03132288 ฿ 1.24320018 147.63 % 2%
$ 4762.19 $ 3274.35 $ 1487.84 $ 59052.01
Week 24 346.12EH/s ฿ 0.09829081 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.02935706 ฿ 1.27255724 151.12 % 2%
$ 4668.81 $ 3274.35 $ 1394.46 $ 60446.47
Week 25 353.04EH/s ฿ 0.09636354 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.02742979 ฿ 1.29998704 154.37 % 2%
$ 4577.27 $ 3274.35 $ 1302.92 $ 61749.38
Week 26 360.10EH/s ฿ 0.09447406 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.02554031 ฿ 1.32552735 157.41 % 2%
$ 4487.52 $ 3274.35 $ 1213.16 $ 62962.55
Week 27 367.30EH/s ฿ 0.09262163 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.02368788 ฿ 1.34921523 160.22 % 2%
$ 4399.53 $ 3274.35 $ 1125.17 $ 64087.72
Week 28 374.65EH/s ฿ 0.09080552 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.02187177 ฿ 1.37108700 162.82 % 2%
$ 4313.26 $ 3274.35 $ 1038.91 $ 65126.63
Week 29 382.14EH/s ฿ 0.08902502 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.02009127 ฿ 1.39117827 165.20 % 2%
$ 4228.69 $ 3274.35 $ 954.34 $ 66080.97
Week 30 389.78EH/s ฿ 0.08727943 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.01834568 ฿ 1.40952395 167.38 % 2%
$ 4145.77 $ 3274.35 $ 871.42 $ 66952.39
Week 31 397.58EH/s ฿ 0.08556807 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.01663432 ฿ 1.42615827 169.36 % 2%
$ 4064.48 $ 3274.35 $ 790.13 $ 67742.52
Week 32 405.53EH/s ฿ 0.08389026 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.01495651 ฿ 1.44111478 171.13 % 2%
$ 3984.79 $ 3274.35 $ 710.43 $ 68452.95
Week 33 413.64EH/s ฿ 0.08224535 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.01331161 ฿ 1.45442639 172.71 % 2%
$ 3906.65 $ 3274.35 $ 632.30 $ 69085.25
Week 34 421.91EH/s ฿ 0.08063270 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.01169895 ฿ 1.46612534 174.10 % 2%
$ 3830.05 $ 3274.35 $ 555.70 $ 69640.95
Week 35 430.35EH/s ฿ 0.07905167 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.01011792 ฿ 1.47624326 175.30 % 2%
$ 3754.95 $ 3274.35 $ 480.60 $ 70121.55
Week 36 438.96EH/s ฿ 0.07750163 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.00856789 ฿ 1.48481115 176.32 % 2%
$ 3681.33 $ 3274.35 $ 406.97 $ 70528.53
Week 37 447.74EH/s ฿ 0.07598199 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.00704825 ฿ 1.49185939 177.16 % 2%
$ 3609.14 $ 3274.35 $ 334.79 $ 70863.32
Week 38 456.69EH/s ฿ 0.07449215 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.00555840 ฿ 1.49741780 177.82 % 2%
$ 3538.38 $ 3274.35 $ 264.02 $ 71127.35
Week 39 465.83EH/s ฿ 0.07303152 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.00409777 ฿ 1.50151557 178.30 % 2%
$ 3469.00 $ 3274.35 $ 194.64 $ 71321.99
Week 40 475.14EH/s ฿ 0.07159953 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.00266578 ฿ 1.50418135 178.62 % 2%
$ 3400.98 $ 3274.35 $ 126.62 $ 71448.61
Week 41 484.65EH/s ฿ 0.07019562 ฿ 0.06893375 ฿ 0.00126187 ฿ 1.50544323 178.77 % 2%
$ 3334.29 $ 3274.35 $ 59.94 $ 71508.55
It's really far from what I calculated (and you too) in the begining it devides the generated BTC's by 6 and I will not be able to run the euipement for more than a year, and the most annoying thing is that if the price drops below that mark it wil be worstand I may not even be able to pay for the investment.
I saw from your replies and posts that you practice minig and I want to know if this numbers are realistic or no according your experience in this field.
finally, yes I expect to have some problemes if I go in this way and
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