Hey everyone, this is probably my first time posting here, so bear with me if I say something you already know or get things wrong. I'm not really a miner and don’t have much knowledge about ASICs or rigs, but I do understand how Bitcoin works on a technical level.
I just wanted to let you all know that Bitmain, a well-known name in the mining community for making and supplying mining rigs worldwide, has launched the Antminer S19 Pro + HYD, which is their latest model aimed at helping miners.
This new rig is said to utilize liquid cooling technology, which is supposed to enhance the hashpower. I find that pretty impressive considering I'm not deeply into the mining scene.
They’re looking at a shipping timeframe from May to September 2022. If you want to know more, check out their official website for details.
I’m curious though, how much of a productivity boost can we expect from this? And what advantages does it have compared to older ASIC models?
It has its benefits, it probably runs a lot cooler, dust-free, a lot less noise, but at the end of the day, it's just an overclocked S19 that will sell for a lot of money, judging by the previous hydro version Bitmain had which is the S9 hydro and how unpopular it was, I don't see how this one is going to be any different unless the price tag makes a lot of sense.
The S19 XP is a lot more effienct with 21w/th vs the hydro with 27.5w/th, which is pretty similar to the S19 pro.
The main strong point would be the noise part, but what I don't understand about the design is the 3 phase (5445w), this isn't home grade mining, so it has to be industrial for the most part, and industrial-grade miners don't give a damn about noise as far as I am concerned, however, a lot of companies gamble with their clients' money, which is why I won't be surprised if they buy these gears at a premium.
I was a bit confused by this as well. Seems like this sort of miner would be much better targeted at home miners with 110v power and a 1,500 watt power usage. I've always thought it was weird how mining companies target large datacenter operations in spite of Bitcoin supposedly being invented with a distributed security model in mind. I hope at some point (maybe Intel?) producers of mining equipment make an attempt to get Bitcoin back in the spirit of which it was created. We seem to have fallen so far from Bitcoin's original intent that people aren't even pretending to care about the principles anymore, they just want to make the most money they can off this tech before they destroy it. Which seems to be the inevitable course of things.
Well as I point out in the Thread about Intel's announcement to produce mining chips for new builds liquid cooling makes perfect sense. The pics I have posted in that thread are an eye opener from a fan and PSU maint point of view...
198TH/s at 5445W (funny numbers, can't they round them up ?)10% increase in efficiency over the S19j series, but for how much extra $???
It's definitely not for home mining, when I checked the voltage, 342~418, lol, yeah, nice!
They didn't even put a price on it, probably they will only sell them in private deals.
Liquid cooling makes sense over normal air cooling especially in a not-so-controlled environment but once you have millions to throw around why not go fully nuts and into immersion cooling? Once you deal with thousands of units isn't immersion by the dozen easier to manage and cheaper than a system per unit?
Holy hot DAMN! Talk about the Cadillac. Screw immersion. This is just running water/glycol through heat exchanger plates mounted as heat sinks. No overpriced fluid. Whole turn key solution.
If this market keeps going to shit maybe the price point might even be attractive.
Yeah, exactly what I'm thinking. I don't think the cost of immersion would be more than this system. You still need pumps, plumbing, and large dry-cooler. The heat exchangers on every hashboard probably end up costing more than the immersion fluid for a single miner would be. And when they are obsolete, there might not be another miner you can drop in to replace them. In an immersion setup you can use any miner, any manufacturer.
Only drawback for immersion is maintenance can be messy, need to clean all that dielectric fluid off with solvent. But hopefully, you wouldn't need to do much maintenance. No fans in either case anyway.