Buying Bitcoin Is Easier Now, But Owning It Is Tougher Than Ever

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nonce1337Full Member
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#1Oct 17, 2017, 01:50 AM
Remember when buying Bitcoin was a real challenge? You had to get your head around wallets, private keys, addresses, backups, and the whole transaction process. That steep learning curve kept a lot of folks away from Bitcoin. But nowadays, that’s changed big time. We’ve got exchanges, mobile apps, ETFs, custodial services, and a bunch of payment platforms making it super easy to grab Bitcoin. Some people can just scoop it up in a matter of minutes, no tech knowledge needed. While this means more people can access Bitcoin, I can't help but wonder if something important is slipping away. So yeah, Bitcoin is way easier to buy now, but is it becoming harder to truly own? 1. Buying doesn’t mean owning like it used to. A lot of newcomers think that just because they purchased Bitcoin, they actually own it. Most of the time, what they really have is an account on some platform that’s holding their Bitcoins. As long as that platform is operational, things seem fine. But when access gets denied, funds are locked, withdrawals take forever, or the service shuts down, reality hits hard. There’s a major difference between being exposed to Bitcoin and having real control over it. That old saying rings true: "Not your keys, not your coins." 2: Convenience is taking over self-custody. Self-custody gives you total control over your Bitcoin, but it also brings a hefty responsibility. You absolutely have to keep your seed safe.
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ColdHashFull Member
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#2Oct 17, 2017, 05:38 AM
A lot of new Bitcoin adopters, I mean those that got into bitcoin when it hits $100k are after making profit with bitcoin, which is the reason why they don't care much on how use bitcoin for the main purpose it was created for. The US has lunched Bitcoin ETFs which is another way of government directing people to keep their bitcoin with third party is wrong. Not your keys....not your coins.
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madfalconFull Member
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#3Oct 17, 2017, 08:58 AM
For me, i think every thing you said in your post summarizes to this number five and it's the reason I am going to quote it.. Trusting and engaging thy services of middlemen or third party in our buying, selling and holding of bitcoin is a choice, it's something we get to choose our self and not that alternative options that does not involve getting middlemen and or third party services is not available, it's available but many of us still prefer to go through middle men because it appears safer and more convenient. Like for example, If I want to buy bitcoin without involving any middlemen and third party services, it's absolutely possible, look for someone selling and send money over to them and give them your wallet address, and the fund the address with bitcoin worth the amount you paid for. Now, even if you engage middle men in buying bitcoin, what stops you from withdrawing same bitcoin to your personal wallet immediately after purchase? I think many are gradually becoming ignorant to self custody and until something happens that leads to loss of funds, investors will not realize leaving their bitcoin in the custody of thirdparty services is not recommended.
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john42Full Member
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#4Oct 17, 2017, 01:55 PM
Exchanges have made bitcoin purchase easier, but people continuing to hold huge funds on it is a mistake. I understand that a lot of newbies get started investing in bitcoin through an exchange because it is much popular, but holding bitcoin in an exchange a year or two later or more shows they're not interested in having full ownership of their coins. Those committed to learning about bitcoin would be interested in it's decentralization and censorship resistance feature and start practicing self custody which is the best way to hold bitcoin. Until people start practicing self-custody, they never truly own their bitcoin.
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anonSenior Member
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#5Oct 17, 2017, 07:49 PM
How hard can it be to own your bitcoins? It's very simply to have full ownership of your coins. Purchase it through any means you want, centralized or decentralised, get a self custodian wallet, write out your 12 words and store them in a safe place. Transfer your coins and hold. Is that quite difficult for any serious person? People these days are just too lazy or careless. They are only focused on how they could make their next millions from bitcoin investment but they have forgotten that even before you make profits you have to secure what you have first. Bitcoin was created to be decentralised, you and your keys, you are your bank. So why give access of your coins to a centralized platform?
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ryanwizardSenior Member
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#6Oct 17, 2017, 09:06 PM
Everything about bitcoin is made affordable for everyone, except you are not used to how it works, and which is why everyone is expected to learn how bitcoin operates, you can make use of it as an advantage for your own benefits, bitcoin is not hard to own, but many users don't know that the render their assets to centralized institutions instead of taking possession of it by themselves.
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rocket365Senior Member
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#7Oct 19, 2017, 09:54 AM
You are correct, I don’t see what is difficult in owning your own bitcoin. It is very simple to own your own bitcoin just like you explain the only reason why people are finding it difficult or being afraid is because they are careless and lazy just like you said they only care about making money from it but they don’t care about protecting it. These are one of the reasons why a lot of people are poor today. There are many people who lost their bitcoin just because of carelessness and laziness this set of people would have become rich today, but because of carelessness and laziness they lost that opportunity to change their life for good.
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0x0rb1tSenior Member
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#8Oct 19, 2017, 11:41 PM
I totally agree with the title of this thread. Bitcoin is getting more accessible through centralized platforms, especially banking apps, but when acquiring your coins through those, you are unable to truly own the assets, because they are tied to the banking app. You can't cashout the purchased coins to a hardware wallet, for an example. You are only allowed to hold those coins while on the hands of the bank. That is an absurd situation, because completely goes against what Bitcoin represents and was created for. However, the average investor isn't concerned about this anymore, because he doesn't have the awareness early investors did. He isn't investing for the same reasons early investors did. The current average investor is just following the sheep. It's actually a big cons of Bitcoin having gone mainstream.
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benledgerSenior Member
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#9Oct 20, 2017, 03:28 AM
Yes its quite easy to actually buy Bitcoin although I dont know what it was like pre 2017. There are people who have educated themselves about taking ownership of their Bitcoin and with education and knowledge things should become simpler. There are also some people who take the cheap lazy way of "storing" their Bitcoin and cannot justify spending $50 on a hardware wallet and spending a bit of time learning
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pixel69Full Member
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#10Oct 20, 2017, 04:05 AM
As for this, I don't think there is a total change about this because there are some people who are still comfortable using exchanges. Knowing the right wallet for Bitcoin has to do with knowledge and choosing what is right. At this present time, there are some people who may even have little understanding of wallets, why a self-custodial wallet is better than a custodial wallet, but still prefer to go with a custodial wallet. This particular point has to do with understanding because when you don't understand the importance of wallets and how they work, you may still find yourself keeping your coins in a custodial wallet. This forum has allowed its members to understand what wallets are all about and why it is important to choose a self-custodial wallet. For those not in forums like this, they may not have the privilege to gain this knowledge, and normally, people hardly research for themselves to know what is best when it comes to wallets.
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john88Full Member
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#11Oct 20, 2017, 06:19 AM
I don't know why people still say it's "hard" to go with self-custody. Even just setting up an exchange account these days requires you to go through a series of verification processes, that's already more complicated. Meanwhile, if you choose self-custody, you just need to download a self-custody wallet (e.g., BlueWallet or others) and you can set it up in just a few minutes. It won't be a more complicated process - not nearly as complicated as opening an exchange account. So I think it's not about whether it's easy or not, but rather that these people are too lazy to learn and have been misled by the narrative that exchanges are regulated and it's safer to store your assets there. In reality, it's the opposite, centralized exchanges can be the worst place for you to store your assets.
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CyberFalconFull Member
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#12Oct 20, 2017, 06:26 AM
It's true once-a-day purchasing Bitcoin was quite hard, but nowadays it's very easy. There are no barriers, but people are too lazy to learn about Bitcoin. That's the reason most people don't own Bitcoin; due to various reasons, they especially have been using custodial wallets. That's the biggest issue nowadays, and people are losing funds. I was a victim as well, even though I know the risk. Binance had frozen my funds, though it later unfroze them; it does mean that funds weren't in my control, and I didn't own that amount either. However, there are a lot of resources nowadays that weren't at the beginning stage of Bitcoin to learn about it. People should have minimal knowledge of how to own Bitcoin, not only purchase it.
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#13Oct 20, 2017, 08:01 AM
I think as long as you know how to buy and sell, and select a reliable exchange, buying bitcoin will not be that tough. You can own bitcoin immediately after a successful transaction. But keeping bitcoin through a self-custody wallet or a non-custodial wallet will be not that easy if you are not aware or educated about its complete security and exclusive control over your bitcoin. There are those who keep purchasing but hard to keep and sustain their purchased bitcoin. The money is always available, but if you are clueless on how to secure your bitcoin on your non-custodial wallet 24/7, complete ownership will be impossible.
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guru365Full Member
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#14Oct 20, 2017, 08:14 AM
The easy fix for this is to withdraw your Bitcoin.  It is your Bitcoin anyway so you have the right to move it out of the exchange platform.  The way you say it implies that it is impossible to move Bitcoin away from an exchange platform, which we all know is not true unless you happen to stumble upon a fraudulent platform and all your withdrawal access is restricted. Again, you are forcing a third-party platform here when, in fact, holding Bitcoin with a non-custodial wallet can still use it for transactions.  Obviously, if the number of bitcoin users increases, those who own Bitcoin also increase, indeed they are not the same thing, but they are directly proportional to each other, not the inverse proportion that you wanted to imply.
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BasedGasHero Member
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#15Oct 20, 2017, 02:22 PM
The concept is still the same and nothing changed but the stupid people who came to the picture who are lazy and not interested in learning or anything except the potential profits, so they buy bitcoin with their inherited money or something and assume their are bitcoin owners. If someone is doing it in the wrong way then it is their loss, so no need to beat ourselfves for that.
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shard_minerSenior Member
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#16Oct 20, 2017, 07:41 PM
Potential Bitcoin investors need to have the patience to learn all that is necessary from the basic knowledge to the more complex ownership details or else be subject to scams or CEX palava that may arise at any given time. It is in the moment of friction that those who failed to learn the nitty-gritty from the onset actually understand all the point made by our dear OP and it may be too late to think of owning a seed phrase to a self custody wallet when all your initial BTC has been lost somehow. Convenience is the order of the day today because humans are naturally wired to be lazy and dwell in convenience, hence why the rise of AI and robots are rampant, but when it comes to true ownership of Bitcoin, AI bots can't be trusted with this responsibility and that's why knowledge of true ownership and self custody is the key to holding onto your Bitcoin investment in the long run.
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3r1c777Full Member
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#17Oct 20, 2017, 08:09 PM
There are so many things that ought not to be a big deal, but for some reason, some users have chosen to see them as rocket science or some form of complex maths that is only meant for experts. The practical reality is, some of these users who prioritize third party services just because they feel that the process to self custody is complicated, are literally those that haven't taken their time to try it out. Of course, you clearly won't know how simple something is until you try it out for yourself. You've literally summarized how it is done, but don't be surprised, some people won't still get it more matter how simple it sounds.
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#18Oct 20, 2017, 11:27 PM
Last time I checked, nothing has changed. A beginner still have to learn about wallet, private keys, address, as you have mentioned before thinking of purchasing Bitcoin. A beginner will be risking his Bitcoin if he don't know the basic. Back then, online scammers are not as they are now. And that's why security is needed now more than ever. Again, Bitcoin was not difficult to purchase years back. It was the same process that was needed to purchase Bitcoin and most people got their Bitcoin through mining and faucet.
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maxi_hawkFull Member
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#19Oct 21, 2017, 02:39 AM
It was never really about Bitcoin itself being difficult to purchase in the past; it was because there was less adoption as a result of less awareness among people about Bitcoin. So, P2P was quite difficult because it wasn't easy finding someone to trade with, especially in urgent situations, and there were very few or no exchanges at all to make trading less cumbersome. Now, in the present time, P2P and self-custody are supposed to be the easiest things to do because what was seen in the past as challenges has now been fixed. It's just that people don't want to learn. They are choosing the easy way out over their own freedom, and the easy way comes with a price. Self-custody is not difficult; people are just lazy and finding excuses for their laziness. The same energy put into handing over ownership of their assets to third parties can actually be put into securing their assets themselves, but their minds are not ready for that responsibility.
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dave.falconFull Member
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#20Oct 21, 2017, 08:44 AM
The phrase "Not your keys, not your coins" shouldn't be taken lightly, as it teaches an important lesson regarding the importance of safeguarding our crypto (Bitcoin) privately (without third-party interference). Storing Bitcoin with a centralized party carries double the risks compared to storing it independently. Several cases have occurred with several exchanges, one of which is Mt. Gox. While there is a possibility of a refund from the exchange due to the issues, but wouldn't that be a very lengthy and time-consuming process Furthermore, if a similar case occurs in the future, there is no guarantee of a refund, right? Maybe, it will be lost forever. I don't mean to scare anyone here; I am simply explaining the risks, and I don't expect a similar case to happen again. I simply want to advise us all, not to place too much trust in third parties, or centralized entities. That is all.
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