Buying Bitcoin without revealing your identity

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ColdViperSenior Member
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#1Jun 22, 2022, 01:16 AM
So, if Bitcoin skyrockets or hits a million bucks, what happens if someone buys a huge chunk of it from a KYC exchange? Like, a big transaction involving thousands of dollars... how do they keep those KYC details secure from prying eyes? Is there any way to purchase Bitcoin without leaving a trace?
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bear_maxiSenior Member
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#2Jun 22, 2022, 07:09 AM
You don't  need to keep the BTC on exchange but they have every record of transactions and your identity details at hand. They can't freeze your btc from your self custody wallet. If you decide on a different way to take profit then so be it but they can still monitor the transaction incase it gets to an entity that can carryout the freeze . That level of monitoring  will have to be a result of government after you particularly for something bad , the BTC itself can still be clean , doesn't change the fact that the exchange knows everything about you .   If you don't  want that then buy from a trusted Decentralized exchange like Bisq , +1 if you're from America or some part of Europe.
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alt_gangFull Member
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#3Jun 22, 2022, 10:31 AM
Nothing, anyone can see it if malicious actors have seen any loophole to inject or hack the platform. There so many incidents happened where personal information were breached which includes id. There's so many ways to do it, p2p exchanges using bisq can be the very first way to do it. It's decentralized and secure p2p without any kyc needed. While you can swap exchange using different instant swap exchanges too like b1exch, ccex, and many more reputed out there.
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quantumninjaFull Member
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#4Jun 22, 2022, 12:03 PM
It won't be protected in any way. Therefore, avoid KYC. But this raises another problem: later, when you want to sell your bitcoin to realize your profits, the regulator will definitely require proof of the funds legal origin, which means you'll need proof of purchase of your bitcoin, which is impossible without a KYC.
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#5Jun 23, 2022, 02:02 AM
The best you can do is to hope that your document won't get leaked, in case you decide to use one of those centralized exchanges that have mandatory KYC. Of course there are ways, but they are getting harder to find as regulations getting stricter. By the way, there is no need to make such a huge image, this is forum after all.
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r34l_bridgeFull Member
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#6Jun 23, 2022, 05:29 AM
It is best to stay anonymous at the start so it's true with your Bitcoin purchases too. If possible, use No KYC exchanges for buying your bitcoins. Some following websites can help you with list of no-KYC exchanges together with other information like reviews, reputation. If you want to test any exchange, use small fund first, it's basic rule. https://kycnot.me/?categories=exchange https://bitlist.co/exchanges https://kycnotlist.com/en/exchanger/
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dan.whaleFull Member
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#7Jun 24, 2022, 08:41 PM
It's recorded on the Blockchain which makes it visible to all. For privacy some people may opt to using selected mixing services just so they hide a trace back to them. But if you are using a centralized exchange to purchase your Bitcoin then you already lost your privacy when you signed up using kyc. I think today, a lot of investors already lost their privacy from the beginning since they first used centralized exchanges to buy their first coins. by losing your kyc, any malicious actors can steal your data when they get access to these exchanges and use it at will. We still have a few non kyc exchanges where you can purchase Bitcoin.
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max.wolfFull Member
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#8Jun 26, 2022, 02:33 PM
Buying Bitcoin anonymously is a very difficult task (in today's environment). 🙋 Theoretically, you can find a physical exchange in your city and buy Bitcoin with cash. Cash is, in my opinion, currently the best way to buy Bitcoin anonymously and privately. How does the exchange process work? You go to a physical office, hand the cash to the employee, and they transfer the Bitcoin to you. Unfortunately, you may arrive at such an office and be asked to show your passport or even sign a written Bitcoin purchase agreement. Yes, this does happen in practice. Exchange management is playing it safe. They're afraid of claims from law enforcement. Of course, if you show the exchange employees your passport, you can forget about your anonymity and privacy. 🤷 Similar difficulties may arise when selling your Bitcoins. You will also have to put in a lot of effort to maintain your anonymity and privacy.
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paul.stakeHero Member
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#9Jun 26, 2022, 03:26 PM
If you want to buy bitcoin with no-KYC, my best recommendations would be Bisq and Peach. I have never used Peach, but I have heard the best, and it's probably less complicated to understand than Bisq. Peach is centralized, but peer-to-peer with escrow, Bisq is decentralized but more complicated (i.e., uses a DAO for disputes.) To "erase" the most of your KYC, you can sell the bitcoin back to the centralized exchange you bought it, and re-buy it from one of those two.
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maxi_bitFull Member
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#10Jun 26, 2022, 06:40 PM
There are various ways to buy cryptocurrencies without giving your personal information to centralized exchanges. Some exchanges don't ask for personal data, but they have limitations for such accounts, like we can't withdraw amounts greater than $5k to $10k from those exchanges. And if they want, they could ask you to complete KYC, otherwise they won't allow you to withdraw your funds until you do it. That's why never fully rely on this method. Use decentralized exchanges like Bisq because it is one of the best options out there. But somehow, if you can get stablecoins or any kind of cryptocurrency directly from a person through a P2P trade, then you can receive those funds in your non custodial wallet and keep them there for as long as you want. No one could easily link those funds back to you unless you personally reveal that the address belongs to you.
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maxi2017Senior Member
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#11Jun 26, 2022, 10:14 PM
Is there a way to buy anything online anonymously?  Maybe.  But you still have to trust the platform where you are leaving your personal information (like your address or credit card details) that it wont store or share that information with third parties.  Of course, there is always the option of using P2P platforms or Bitcoin ATMs, but even those are closing the loop on privacy.  Perhaps the best option is to buy in person from a trusted party using cash, but even that comes with its own risks.  You are essentially trading digital privacy for physical danger.  The cold truth: there is no such thing as a risk-free shortcut.
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rocket365Senior Member
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#12Jun 27, 2022, 08:33 PM
KYC yes could be seen as a serious problem due the risk for incorrect usage. But there are some services that have "weaponized" asking documents on documents. The practice to avoid CEX has been always a must to do even if they are very useful (and in some cases they are only services available). I would not speculate too much about to be "anonimous" because it's not easy at all and must efforts could be vanished by... a single error.
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block_2018Senior Member
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#13Jun 27, 2022, 10:02 PM
It's hard to stay truly anonymous these days, because no matter how you buy assets, some instant exchanges won't be able to settle orders for thousands of bitcoins because they won't have enough liquidity, and the ones I know that buy in bulk most people use OTC on a platform that still requires your documents. If it's a small amount, you can still do it because there are several options that you can do to remain anonymous, but again, if you get a profit and want to liquidate it into fiat then most people usually go to the exchange again. The matter of documents goes back to the exchange where they keep it safe, I think every exchange will keep it safe.
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LuckyCoinLegendary
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#14Jun 27, 2022, 10:58 PM
Go to BitMixList and look for sites that let you exchange your fiat for BTC.
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the_matrixSenior Member
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#15Jun 28, 2022, 02:04 AM
You do not control what a third party does with your personal data. You could be lucky and it wouldn't leak, but in most cases, these data find its way into the black market and people get attacked, both physically and through phishing. In case you've not heard, a government tax official in France was selling peoples personal information to the highest bidder and that is why cases of kidnapping is on the rise in that region, that's how dangerous kyc is. However, yes, you can buy BTC in no-kyc services, but if it is a very large amount, then it becomes more difficult.
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real_pixelSenior Member
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#16Jun 28, 2022, 04:09 AM
Assuming that you've bought a lot of bitcoins and millions on that kyc exchange. The data that you have sent to them is kept by their records and you'll never know if it will be exploited, first by their employee who holds the database. Next, by the hackers who will exploit it if they get hacked and usually we know what happens there. Lastly, by the buyers of those data from the leaks and hackers. And that's why if you're thinking of data protection, you might be protected at first but not anymore once the exchange exposes that their data got leaked and hacked.
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3ric2014Member
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#17Jun 28, 2022, 06:21 AM
Submitting your KYC or ID card anywhere online is never 100% safe. We have seen data leak from cryptocurrency exchange like Binance or Coinbase in the past. Once your ID card information goes online it will be leaked for life There are many way to buy Bitcoin anonymously. You can buy from Bisq, b1exch or Bitcoin ATMs. Although you can buy it anonymously but later when you go to cash a large amount of money in the bank they will ask you for the source of money. This is where most people get caught
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cyberviperFull Member
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#18Jun 28, 2022, 09:44 AM
Instant exchanges can't help unless he already have some tokens or stable currency, because that's considered cryptocurrency too so he had to buy that first with fiat and then he could use instant exchanges otherwise, he can't do direct p2p trades on them. He could use decentralized, no-KYC, and instant exchanges and could exchange his BTC into stable currency easily without giving any documentation, and no one would ever ask where the money came from or whether he has paid taxes. But it could become a problem if he wants to sell his crypto into fiat because when he receives funds in his bank account, he could be required to pay taxes. Still, there can be ways for him to pay lower taxes or even none. He could go to El Salvador or to a country where taxes are lower, or ask some relatives or friends living there for help. If not, then paying taxes is the final option, but there is nothing wrong with that either because taxes are not even that high in some places. Although if possible, he could use that money to start an online business, and then he could save even more if he hires a financial advisor.
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s33d_moonFull Member
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#19Jun 30, 2022, 04:36 PM
It is because of this your concern that many people are never comfortable with using KYC exchanges especially for large transactions as they usually attract more compliance checks from exchanges especially centralized ones. The honest answer is that nobody can guarantee you 100% protection when you're using exchanges. Regardless of how improved the security of exchanges are, there's still possibilities of leaks, hacks or even insider access. Not your key Through P2P trading or direct cash deals, you can still by anonymously but you have to be very cautious so you don't end up getting scammed. There are other non KYC methods as well but unlike the early days of Bitcoin, they're not common and convenient.
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w0lf404Hero Member
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#20Jun 30, 2022, 06:49 PM
The more transactions you make or the more Bitcoin you hold, the more people will be curious about who you are. While some services offer 100% anonymity, this still raises doubts because they won't necessarily reveal their back-end code, which can be verified by every user. The closest place to 100% anonymity, in my opinion, is in a community that discourage KYC.
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