I've shared some thoughts in the politics and society area about crypto taxes and capital gains. Honestly, I feel like a lot of folks in the crypto community are kinda clueless about these taxes. It’d be awesome if we could spread some knowledge so no one gets caught off guard by the tax authorities just because they didn't take the time to learn. Here are some of my quotes from a recent chat in that section.
If you’ve got any questions about trading crypto and taxes or wanna add your two cents to what I’ve written, that’d be fantastic. Teaching each other is what it's all about. Appreciate you all.
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Crypto taxes and capital gains info
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I am not an expert on anything related to tax matters, and I am just an ordinary taxpayer myself so indeed it is good to be educated with the laws extant for us to follow and learn the many ways we can use to minimize our legal obligations to the government. Though, of course, it is always advisable to be consulting a professional on this matter, learning the rope on the matter can be helping a lot. Maybe I am just lucky that here in my country we are still at the liberty to declare our cryptocurrency income generating activities or not. In countries, where tax laws are implemented to the letter, one must always be careful and at the same time exhaust all legal means anyone has the privilege to use.
IMO, The reason why crypto people do not understand the tax and capital gains of Bitcoin is that in the first place they went business to Bitcoin to avoid it. They were able to do so, but here we are being taxed with the alternative we had so we can avoid the taxes. (I'm actually being honest with this)
My assumption is if you are using cryptocurrency on your daily basis and as your primary transactions method, that is the time you might need to check the topic regarding tax and capital gains. But if you are using cryptocurrency with a harmless amount of assets, you can definitely ignore it.
Just my two sats.
matrix_hawkFull Member
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#4Oct 12, 2017, 01:30 AM
It's on you to check whether you can operate in relative impunity or whether you're crapping all over your local rules. They're not going to care that you didn't realise.
Some places operating in ignorance is fine. In others you could be building up a whole load of future pain without realising.
SilentBridgeSenior Member
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#5Oct 12, 2017, 05:46 AM
For the UK it's mainly stocks and forex that are treated as capital gains. Cars and real estate are exempt and come under their own thing entirely (much like how dividends are treated afaik).
Forex for me includes anything like gold, crypto and actual currency trades, could probably call them commodities contracts.
Yeah I wouldn't care to calculate how much the difference is when I earn something in crypto and buy something (I don't have to declare it anyway since it'll definitely be less than the £1000 threshold here).
A lot of the time if you file something wrong, you'll normally just get a fine to the tune of that amount to pay but fines add up and interest is added too.
Can't put it any better than this. I would say that "ignoring" is not a real option that is available to us. I am residing in Singapore, and here the tax authorities are very strict with the liabilities. I can't make statements for the other jurisdictions, but I really doubt whether the situation is much different than what we have here. For moderate amounts, you can "ignore" the tax liability, but in the end everything depends on your luck. You may get away with it, or you may get caught. If you are unlucky, then the punishment may not be limited to a simple monetary fine.
ledger_altMember
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#7Oct 12, 2017, 05:26 PM
Hi all,
I am looking forward fore becoming a Crypto taxation expert (feeling this specialty has a bright future) and this article really speaks itself all in
one information regarding crypto taxations:
https://cryptoindetail.com/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency-taxes/
I would really love to hear more thoughts regarding this topic.
+1 for cointracker.io. The site will help you generate the needed Schedule One (Additional Income and Adjustments to Income) as well as a form 8949 and Schedule D (Capital Gains and Losses). Also, make sure to report the Capital Gains/Losses in question 6 on the form 1040. On the 8949, you need to put a check in the box next to option (C) Short-term transactions not reported to you on Form 1099-B (unless of course it was a large enouph transaction to be reported by the exchange and they sent you a 1099)
I think you don't ignore things because you are not really into it. You can also understand it and help to follow rules. If bitcoin is taxable in the country, no need to avoid it because tax evasion is a crime no matter how small it is.
Soon Bitcoin will be so regulated that it will become fiat
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