Here's the rundown on current de minimis units for importing to the US based on the make and model. Just to clarify, de minimis means anything under $800 value per shipment, and you can do this once a day.
*Note that this list is only for direct purchases from the manufacturer.
Antminer:
S9 SE 430 USD
S9k 263 USD
Innosilicon:
T2T 30T 792 USD
Canaan: (no MOQ considered)
Avalon 1047 774 USD (November batch)
Avalon 1026 708-628 USD (all batches)
De Minimis Units US
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How do coupons affect the de minimis? With BM releasing a slew of coupons it puts the S15 at $680.00 after a $340 coupon.
Essentially it can work with a favorable interpretation. Though I would prepare for duties.
hodler2019Legendary
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#4Nov 17, 2023, 05:24 PM
the t15 is in stock it is not taxed if you order 1
It comes to about 600 shipped to USA if you use the 250 coupon
the 250 coupon is now working.
Edits and last best pricing updates.
whale_atlasMember
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#6Nov 17, 2023, 11:58 PM
If an item is shipped to a known freight forwarder and a bill of lading for export can be provided. Would the taxes still apply?
hodler2019Legendary
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#7Nov 18, 2023, 04:24 AM
Translation ship them to Malaysia then to USA do I beat the trump tax.
Answer maybe you do.
Maybe you get caught.
May be a crime.
Now if bitmain was to ship multiple parts to Malaysia and the gear was assembled in Malaysia it may be 100% good to go. With no trump tax.
There are legal ways to avoid the tax. Pretty sure if you are a big player you can do it.
I have seen multiple listings for MOQ of 100 shipped from Malaysia.
I would worry if I did this as I suspect they are not avoiding the tax correctly.
Only unit's I've seen "from Malaysia" on are bitmain listings from resellers and Bitmain haven't confirmed they assemble there. I would be weary as well.
It's about country of origin. Even used units from another country are applicable to duties because of where they made.
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#9Nov 19, 2023, 08:30 PM
They are being assembled there. For the most part to get it from Malaysia MOQ is 100 units if you have a relationship if you don't MOQ can be much higher. Assembled in Malaysia. I mean the chips are from taiwan and logic boards and cheap as hell to make and so are the shells.
Well hopefully something turns up and we can list something.
nonce_2013Full Member
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#11Nov 20, 2023, 06:36 AM
Are you ordering them or just trying to pickup off someone after it is imported.
We would want to order them directly when more units are available.
nonce_2013Full Member
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#13Nov 20, 2023, 01:04 PM
If you are ordering over 100 you can probably make it happen. It would be a pre-order for September delivery. I have a feeling majority of their stock is going to be pre-ordered before they put it on their site based off of the order of chips people speculated they got coming.
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#14Nov 22, 2023, 11:47 AM
If they are Malaysia assembled and avoid the trump tax legally I would want 5 to 10 of them.
I need 5 to 10 units of new gear for sure.
I might need 120 kwatts of gear beyond that.
But 5 to 10 s17s or something like this I need ASAP.
nonce_2013Full Member
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#15Nov 24, 2023, 10:01 PM
I can see if I can order more machines but I would have to ask the gentleman doing the group buy. The group buy is for a mining facility and their customers so I would have to see if there is a way to order them and then pick them up or something. You said ASAP but September is the next batch being released so I don't think there is any faster way without buying someone else's for a premium that already has one. If you want me to inquire I can call and find out if you wanted to host them with them I can more than likely make it happen. It's the facility we spoke about maybe a year ago over pm.
Where is this hosting facility? I've been looking to host overseas to avoid Trumpf tax.
nonce_2013Full Member
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#17Nov 25, 2023, 05:42 AM
Host I am talking about is located in New York. I have been trying to setup an overseas mine and got investors but if the new thing is miners coming from non heavily taxxed companies I might think otherwise. My goal was always Kosovo, Ukraine, Canada, USA in that order. Mainly due to little to no taxes and cheap power. While Canada and USA have higher taxes specially for importing + electricity is hard to find in USA at good rates.
Updated, sorry for overlooking this for a while.
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#19Nov 26, 2023, 02:52 PM
Yeah the t2 t30 at 792 looks decent.
Seems the pricing has been removed from Innos site and the s9k is out of stock.