France plans to halt certification of quantum-resistant cryptographic products by 2027

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silentchainHero Member
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#1May 20, 2018, 07:01 AM
Looks like France is gearing up to be the first country with this kind of law. They want to ensure people use wallets that are already resistant to quantum attacks. I get that this might put some pressure on developers since the deadline is just a year away. They really need to move fast, but honestly, this could be exactly what the crypto space needs right now to get things moving.
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quantumbearHero Member
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#2May 20, 2018, 01:05 PM
You made a mistake on the title of your topic, it supposed to be non-resistant. If it is resistant, it will be certified. France cybersecurity agency ANSSI said on Tuesday at the France Quantum 2026 Summit. I guess this will force banks and other sites to go quantum resistant in the country. I think France is only deceiving itself because 2027 is too early.
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alexwalletSenior Member
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#3May 20, 2018, 04:11 PM
It's not about the wallet. Quantum threats don't target crypto wallets; they're network protocol-level attacks. However, with such a short deadline, I wonder to what extent they tested all algorithms' robustness with real-world QC technology.
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byte_orbitFull Member
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#4May 20, 2018, 05:41 PM
This has literally nothing to do with Bitcoin or Bitcoin wallets. Why would someone need certification from France? Why would Bitcoin Core care or any open source product like Electrum? The certification may be needed by regulations for some industries, but it certainly does not apply to open-source wallets for Bitcoin. Heck even hardware wallets can simply ignore the certification. Rare for you to be correct, but this time you are. Stop hallucinating with bullshit and pseudo-knowledge, there is no network protocol-level attack from quantum computers for Bitcoin. It is literally only about individual wallets and the derivation of private keys from exposed public keys. Refrain from commenting in topics that are beyond your current knowledge. This in no way has any impact on Bitcoin. Wallet-makers are not able to implement something that the Bitcoin protocol does not support, therefore there is no pressure on wallet makers at all at least not those that work with Bitcoin. You should consider yourself lucky and quite progressive if we get support for some quantum keys before 2030, this arbitrarily decided year of 2027 is not worth discussing in the context of Bitcoin.
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bull_2019Senior Member
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#5May 20, 2018, 11:15 PM
Why rush to get a half-baked cake?.. The update is an important one, and developers do know the urgency of needing to have it done, putting some kind of deadline will solve nothing.. it can only push them to focus more, but that doesn’t mean it will necessarily be ready by 2027 or even 2028. It could even come earlier than we expect. There’re lots of blockchain and I believe they are (specifically BTC) already in the process of transitioning.
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wizard_rocketFull Member
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#6May 21, 2018, 02:57 AM
This move is not directed towards bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency but entities which provide cryptographic products and services. Banks, Certificate issuers, VPN providers, Cloud systems and Cloud Infrastructure providers etc... are the ones who needs to be worried about it. The deadline is immediate but I guess France wants to get things started and attempting this for a head boost.
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boss_wizardSenior Member
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#7May 21, 2018, 05:23 AM
How about crypto wallets, even the CEX custodial version ones that doesn't support quantum resistant yet, will it become a problem in the future? I wonder how influential this certification is for the crypto market in there. The 2027 deadline seems too short, upgrading things like this, usually takes time.
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orbit100Hero Member
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#8May 21, 2018, 07:03 AM
I think people should stop using them in the first place. Why rely on a third party to store your wealth? I'm surprised if such idea is still popular today, given that the number of options are numerous compared to before. As for the impact, maybe people will still use non-certified product if it's open source. Afterall they can check and verify the code themselves.
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john42Full Member
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#9May 21, 2018, 12:51 PM
This is more reason decentralization and self custody is the best. They can give a deadline for their own country specific or supported products but not Bitcoin, Bitcoin cares less about their deadline. Anyone can still use their non-custodial wallets and hardware wallets even after the so called deadline. Validates the importance of the censorship resistance feature of Bitcoin. By the way, I see no way they can achieve this in just 6 months, maybe they're just throwing around a marketing stunt to project their country as a leading figure in adopting QR tech. It's just a PR to drive a certain impression and perception about them, achieving such within a short while isn't a lot feasible.
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wizard_rocketFull Member
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#10May 21, 2018, 06:06 PM
Crypto wallet companies will feel the regulatory pressure but they can't really do much about it. The only thing they can do is support the upgrade to quantum resistant derivation paths when the protocol upgrade happens. But that's again dependent on the protocol upgrade and so there's nothing else they can do about it.
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