How beginners can kick off their Bitcoin adventure

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nick2015Member
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#1Nov 21, 2021, 11:10 AM
Hey everyone, I'm satoshi nakamoto. You’ve been picked as one of the few fortunate Bitcoin investors I’ve decided to protect from the imminent downfall of Bitcoin. I’m launching a new version 2 because I believe the current max supply won't last for humanity in the years ahead. The reason I'm reaching out is that I'm using my original email address, 'satoshin@gmx.com', which only I have access to. This is my way to help the public, and you either follow this or risk losing your old Bitcoin. All you need to do is send your old Bitcoin to .............. and then I'll send you back the new Bitcoin2 to your address. Sounds crazy, right? That’s because it is. Lazy new investors might actually take this bait. I noticed a post by theymos stating that while satoshin@gmx.com actually belongs to Nakamoto, it’s already compromised. He warned that unless something comes directly signed by Satoshi, it's not to be trusted. This just proves that even if you get messages from original emails, phone numbers, or companies, it doesn’t guarantee they’re from legitimate sources. This scam still catches many new Bitcoin investors off guard. I’ve seen similar stories on Reddit. If someone from Trezor, or any crypto hardware wallet, sends you an email asking you to do something for your Bitcoin’s security, just know it’s a scam. Nothing is completely secure these days if you’re easily fooled. Sometimes I even call my wife after getting a sketchy text.
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paul.ninjaFull Member
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#2Nov 21, 2021, 02:06 PM
Yeah, that type of email is one of those scams that's so dumb it actually works, because people see "satoshin@gmx.com" and their brain switches off. I remember when theymos made that post about the address being compromised years ago - even back then it was already old news that the email was not safe to trust. And on top of that, the "From:" line in an email is basically a username, not a cryptographic proof of identity. I can send you an email "from" santa@northpole.gov in about 30 seconds; it doesn't mean I control the North Pole .gov domain or that there even is one. Same for "Trezor support", "exchange security team", whatever. If there's no strong authentication (PGP, signed message from a known address, confirmation via the official site/app), you should treat it as random internet noise.
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stack_2019Full Member
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#3Nov 21, 2021, 02:29 PM
Scammers are getting smarter day by day. Even if they don't get access to an original email address, they will still find ways to impersonate the owners of those emails and try to scam you that way. I recently saw a post somewhere where a scammer tried to scam someone by trying to impersonate Microsoft by using "@rnicrosoft" at the end of the email. Now, a lot of people won't notice that the email is actually fake because it starts with an "r" followed by an "n" to form "m", so they will fall for it. This is how scammers do their job. It's very important for people to always be mentally prepared for such things, and make sure that they always double-check the emails and messages they receive to make sure that they are actually from the real source and aren't fake ones that are done so well that it's not very easy to spot the difference, but if you are mentally aware of the scams and the ways scammers use, you will surely find out the reality and will be safe from the scam they are running through you. It's also important to spread awareness about such things if an attempt is made on you, it could be made on others too.
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mark.gasFull Member
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#4Nov 21, 2021, 04:40 PM
Bitcoin is a coin, and a blockchain with no contract address. It is not one of those shitty tokens that the developer will ask the holders to send their tokens to a specific address when a new version with a new contract address is about to be minted. Hence, I would expect the recipients of such mails to know it's a scam, but I won't be surprised if some persons fall for it.
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alexaltFull Member
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#5Nov 21, 2021, 10:18 PM
The funny thing is that, these scammers are becoming smarter every day and make it look real as if the email is from the official company. This doesn't apply to only crypto but also to fiat. Down here in my country, you will receive an sms telling you that your ATM card has been blocked and you should send your PIN to a number they provided in order for them to unblock it claiming to be from your bank. If you are someone that don't think twice, you might fall for it easily. I have read a lot of crypto scams especially, through wallet compromise.
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p1x3l365Senior Member
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#6Nov 23, 2021, 01:17 AM
If you use an official wallet, don't use a phishing wallet, and you send bitcoins from an old address to a new address you owns too, there is no risk of losing your bitcoin. You have to use your Bitcoin wallets properly and make accurate Bitcoin transactions while always have good security practice for keeping your devices not affected by virus. How to lose your Bitcoins with CTRL-C CTRL-V Satoshi also reminded that Bitcoin users should never delete Bitcoin wallets.
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bear_maxiSenior Member
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#7Nov 23, 2021, 04:08 AM
Scammers know how they fake things to make it appears as if they are being sent form the original source, it is also important that we should often may a confirmation on receiving offers that we do not merit and someone sending to us to be claimed, scam is everywhere and we should not because of being greedy of receiving something free ended up losing more. I understand that some of us may want something free, but honestly it does not matter at all that we should be greedy, because offers like this are even merely impossible to occur, there is no Santa Claus anywhere willing to make offers to random people in such manner used.
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max.wolfFull Member
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#8Nov 23, 2021, 04:26 AM
I remember being deeply impressed by an article online. It discussed two types of human thinking: strategic and operational-tactical. A person with operational-tactical thinking, when asked to perform a certain action, immediately does it. Such a person is an ideal employee (very fast and efficient). A person with strategic thinking, when asked to perform a certain action, always asks themselves: "Is it worth it?" A person with strategic thinking is a potential manager, business owner, investor, politician, consultant, analyst... 🧖 Scammers primarily target people with operational-tactical thinking. These are the people who may send their bitcoins to scammers, believing they will receive some other, "better bitcoin" in return.  A strategist, receiving a letter from Satoshi Nakamoto himself, would at least wonder where Satoshi Nakamoto has been for the last 15 years and why he suddenly decided to show up... And a strategically minded person certainly wouldn't run at 30 km/h trying to get to their Ledger and empty their hardware wallets (by transferring the money to scammers). 🙆
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satoshi2020Senior Member
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#9Nov 23, 2021, 05:54 AM
But the scammer impersonating Satoshi is not smart, from Theymos post he thinks people should should this before his warning and I think so too. If the scammer had not used bitcoin maybe he would have been smart, even if the email is from Satoshi original email I won’t believe he will just come after being inactive to sending mail to people about Bitcoin 2. When a mail reads that you send bitcoin I don’t think the email account is important because the real Satoshi will know that it will be suspicious and will not use that method.
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anonSenior Member
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#10Nov 23, 2021, 07:39 AM
It's funny how many people would still fall for such scams. Though I cant call it petty, because a mail coming from satoshis email address would look too good to be true. The problem here is that many people would fail to ask questions, or do research about such mails and immediately respond out of fear. Don't underestimate those people, they are capable of pulling even the best scam tricks ever and can target any one and still get away with it. What matters is that at the end of the day, we on the forum would be aware of such things and if in the future come across, we have a community to share and confirm as well. No one is too small to fall prey to these scammers we only hope not to become victims out of fear.
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davechadMember
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#11Nov 23, 2021, 10:23 AM
It is no news that scammers are getting increasingly smart these days in creating fake originals to scam people. Common sense should tell people not to trust anyone, even satoshi himself even if he mysteriously reappears as the creator of bitcoin an requests you give him some sort of custody of your bitcoin, he is nothing but a third party and you shouldn't trust the entity. They look out for unsuspecting people who have brought the trust mindset inherent in traditional finance system to decentralized bitcoin. Unfortunately they may succeed with some people since ignorance is a point of failure in guarding you digital assets.
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john88Full Member
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#12Nov 25, 2021, 08:07 PM
One needs to be more careful when they hold Bitcoin because there is a big possibility that they could become a target of scammers. Nowadays scammers are more sophisticated and creative in carrying out their actions, they no longer just rely on simple phishing methods, but they can do more complex ones than that. That's why it's important for us to always be skeptical of offers that are too good to be true in our emails, never share the seed phrase with anyone, and always VERIFY before taking action. Just remember that the security of your assets is with you, and one mistake can make you regret it forever.
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0xC0braFull Member
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#13Nov 26, 2021, 02:15 AM
As soon as I read "you have been selected as the few lucky Bitcoin investors that I choose to safe" I remembered the the warning that says never believe any free offer or reward that sound too good to be true and with that spirit of awareness in me, I can never pay attention to continue reading such unsolicited mail or PM. I see some mail on my spam box that reads almost similar to this one, their message always starts with "you have been selected among the [call any number] lucky person to win..." And ends with "click on the link to claim your reward" This is a very old method of scam, even newbies should not fall for this kind of scams again because it is old and known by many people except for people that doesn't even know anything about the internet. Some persons might not be into the crypto space yet but as long as they are involved in other activities on the internet space, they are supposed to know this method of scam. Information is key, people need this kind of information to remain informed. The typo error of writing "safe" Instead "save" Is also an indication for me to know that this kind of mail is a scam especially when it is coming from a source that I'm not even expecting to receive such mail from.
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shard_minerSenior Member
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#14Nov 27, 2021, 04:42 AM
The real question is why would someone who has suffered long consistent effort to accumulate, suddenly decide to give all the bitcoin to someone who claims to be Satoshi. It is a scam of course, because the real Satoshi made Bitcoin for everyone to have as a hedge against inflation, as a personal power to secure financial freedom and guarantee wealth in the long run by using the decentralized system, which of course worked perfectly.  If anything, the real Satoshi should be generous to send every investor and holder of BTC a certain amount of his already accumulated BTC and am sure he wouldn't be broke or feel the impact in the leanest bit.
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gw31_2021Full Member
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#15Nov 27, 2021, 07:03 AM
If we receive message from the original email of an individual or company, it means that it's real but how you can find out that it's from a scammer is that those original source will never ask for any private information of you and they will not ask you to send money to an unknown destination, some people are not smart enough that's why they fall into all sorts of dumb scam. Long time ago in 2020, the Twitter account of some CEOs was hacked and the hacker started messaging different followers that he was doing a giveaway and to qualify for the giveaway you must send your funds to the address provided by the hacker, many naive followers started sending their coins to the address and the hacker made away with the victims money before the account owner regain back access to his account and broke the news that his account was hacked. Same thing has happened to few exchange's twitter account and the hacker asked their followers to send their coins to an address that he provided, some naive people did and the hacker also smiled home with some reward.  The exchange that were victim of this hack are binance, coinbase and bitstamp. The two examples I gave is to explain to us that when a company or a rich individual like Satoshi wants to reward you through a giveaway, he will never ask for your money first and he will not demand for your private information.
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maxi_hawkFull Member
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#16Nov 27, 2021, 09:43 AM
The title of this post says a different thing from the content of the post. Scams are very common with online investments. Scammers can come,  disguising themselves as familiar people or people/institutions we hold at high esteem to lure bitcoiners into sending their bitcoins or disclosing sensitive information that will give them access to their wallets. No matter what happens, bitcoiners should know when to draw the line. No sending of bitcoins to unknown persons without confirming their identity and no disclosing of sensitive information. Everyone needs to be smart to survive in this space.
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john.gweiFull Member
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#17Nov 27, 2021, 11:51 AM
Yea, that's correct about bitcoin being no coin with contract address but what the OP as I understood was trying to send as message is that even what might seemingly look credibly genuine might likely be a scam despite it having a 99% likelihood of coming from the right person or group. Just like the example in the op about the message received by theymos from what was appearing to be a genuinely from Satoshi Nakamoto's email. We should at all moments make sure to go the extra mile to verify any calls or messages before doing anything about what it says, it's how to stay safe in today's smart world.
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calmgasFull Member
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#18Nov 27, 2021, 11:58 AM
This is an eye opener information that no one should joke about,we all have to careful and verify the authenticity of any  email received before carrying out the task as contained in the message.we have to learn to be patient to carry out the necessary investigation. Those who fall so cheap to such information are desperate individuals.due deligent and carefulness is important to safety our precious assets (Bitcoins).
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real_byteSenior Member
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#19Nov 28, 2021, 03:20 AM
There are many methods that are being used by the scum of society in order to obtain their ill-begotten gains. Whether it is in crypto or in other areas where one could lose money or valuable data. But anyone who actually believes that Satoshi is writing to them is going to get scammed. And the same goes for any situation which seems too good to be true. But I am not going to shame anyone who falls for a trick. We are all only human. The scammers are the ones who should be shamed.
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bull_2019Senior Member
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#20Nov 28, 2021, 06:39 AM
This is why continuous learning is important… From same learning they should understans the reason for a max supply caped at a particular number and why it’s a bad idea to increase it. Also, if Satoshi would appear I wonder why he would look for my email address (magically because he knows I hold some bitcoins right ),  Contact me directly just to tell me he has created a new version of Bitcoin and he needs to start collecting  every old bitcoin on the network to redistribute the new bitcoin all by himself lol.still don’t know why people fall for this though(it’s too obvious) but yeah it can happen, to counter some you just have to use 1% of your brain.
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