How market manipulators toy with newbies like a sad poem

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ColdViperSenior Member
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#1Aug 23, 2023, 01:44 AM
I keep thinking 🤔 that trading in Forex 💲💸 and stocks is super risky. I’ve tried to illustrate why with the pic below. These guys have tons of currency and stocks that aren’t backed by blockchain ⛓ technology. They can easily trap inexperienced traders by teaming up with inflation and bank 🏛️ shareholders to pull profits from the market whenever they want, especially during buying periods. But they can’t totally pull this off in the BTC market. So they load up when it’s bear territory and then just sit tight for the market to swing back to their desired price for selling. That means they have to be patient before buying in again. Buy Buy Buy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Good Bay Sell Sell Sell Go to Hell ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) They’re trying to make it sound like a poem 👆
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alex.shardLegendary
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#2Aug 23, 2023, 03:49 AM
I have not seen anything like manipulation in what you posted. Someone bought bitcoin, even if it is a whale, the market go down and he waited until the bull market started and buy more. Is that not what you mean? If that is that you are talking about, I do not see it as manipulation. You can read about market manipulation online to understand each one. Whales and insiders can be using some manipulative strategies to manipulate the market.
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#3Aug 25, 2023, 01:07 PM
These are the effects of huge companies like strategy, And it happens as a result of holding a large amount of coins Wich we can regard to as unfair, But imagine if you are a long term investor you have a strong belief that the market is going to buy and make new ATHs anyways, you will be less emotional conserning situations like this. So it is more safer to have a long term goal as we all can see what the market has turn into.
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alexwalletSenior Member
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#4Aug 27, 2023, 10:59 AM
It's not that simple; manipulation is possible in any market, including crypto. Whales have various methods of manipulation. In fact, retails are too vulnerable to the noise of social media, trading charts/indicators, etc. This can often lead to liquidity traps. Furthermore, there have been several allegations of local price manipulation on various CEX platforms in the past.
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shard_minerSenior Member
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#5Aug 27, 2023, 04:11 PM
Market manipulation is seen from different angles and in my opinion, market manipulation happens when retail traders allow their emotions get the best part of them by affecting their decisions. I also think the forex and stock market is strictly regulated and monitored for transparency just like the Blockchain network, but their methods are different. My best advice will remain that traders should learn to control their emotions when trading in any of these markets and understand that the best way to avoid being manipulated, is to buy when everyone thinks the market is going to hell.
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bear_maxiSenior Member
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#6Aug 27, 2023, 05:59 PM
Okay so what exactly is your post all about
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lord_gasMember
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#7Aug 28, 2023, 06:39 PM
They are market manipulators and they have the high probability of manipulating the market because this are the whales, and high market holders. This set of institutions are holding high ration of different commodities which gives them the ability to manipulate the market by maybe inducement or setting traps for the retail traders.   This set of people can shift market prices, as a retail trader avoiding emotions falling in and avoid making decisions with our unstable emotions because it won’t result in the right way. As a retail traders let make sure we know the difference between traps, inducements and real market conditions because finding the difference is always difficult unless proper knowledge is been obtained.
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coin_sigmaLegendary
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#8Aug 28, 2023, 11:48 PM
Manipulation is pretty common in any market, including Bitcoin. They can't just give a big impact to Bitcoin, but there are still manipulation happening in BTC. Your illustration does not explain manipulation. Manipulation occurs when the market wants to wipe out liquidity, usually below support or above resistance, before the price continues to rise or fall. What I get from your image is how big companies buy at a low price and then sell when traders keep pushing the price higher. That's not actually a manipulation. The manipulation is likely the same as what happened recently, where the price should have been rejected to the $80k level, but the price kept pushing to $82k, which is a bull trap and obviously a manipulation just to fill the Fibonacci retracement levels. Your illustration is a normal behavior in spot trading.
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ColdViperSenior Member
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#9Aug 29, 2023, 12:37 AM
The poem's 📜 strategy is not work ☺️ for those products /share/coin who are not covered by blockchain technology! If you pay attention, you will see that this strategy is not very effective in Bitcoin because as soon as they sell, the price of Bitcoin and its ecosystem naturally increases slowly, which is why big investors in Bitcoin have to go to the sell point and buy large amounts for a ⏳ long time. So in the bitcoin market they not able to get quick success after the point sell >> ( Go to Hell) ❌Not work for Blockchien/bitcoin ( Go to Hell) ✅️ worked for share/without blochein cover service
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chad100Senior Member
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#10Aug 30, 2023, 04:12 AM
If you come from the stock market, you should know that the free float—the amount of shares available for public trading—is usually less than ten percent. In that regard, the stock market is actually quite similar to the crypto market. Bitcoin's price action also aligns perfectly with classic market laws. Wyckoff described these cycles as accumulation and distribution phases. I’ve highlighted all the anomalous volume spikes on the chart. These are distribution points—moments at the absolute peak of a trend's momentum where whales lock in profits because there is enough market liquidity to distribute a massive volume of coins. Following this, an accumulation phase almost always sets in. Whales rebuild their positions within a sideways range, using small order sizes to avoid moving the price. Eventually, their final orders ignite a new trend, and at the end of the run, they distribute their crypto once again to secure profits. This is clearly visible in the surging volume.
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0xR4v3nSenior Member
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#11Aug 30, 2023, 05:24 AM
I always wondered why South Asians spelled 'guys' as 'gays' online, and nothing else with similar lettering and pronunciation like that. Today I have completed my life by seeing someone spell 'buy' as 'bay'. OP, Nobody is manipulating you or traders who just keep buying and selling with no plan. They were just never prepared to trade, and came to BTC to gamble
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alexwalletSenior Member
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#12Sep 1, 2023, 05:57 AM
Stocks, gold, bonds, and other instruments are protected by law. You're also ignoring all types of bitcoin markets where manipulation is common, including derivatives. So how does a massive sell-off increase the value? If the price recovers slowly, it means the selling pressure is starting to subside. It's important to note that manipulation is usually short-lived.
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ColdViperSenior Member
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#13Sep 1, 2023, 02:32 PM
🤪✌︎︎Sorry to confuse you!! Goodbye Means here "goodbye" here? I have used "goodbye🙋‍♂️" here,
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0xK1ngMember
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#14Sep 1, 2023, 05:28 PM
So, what you are doing on here if this thing has nothing to do with the Bitcoin network anyway? Lol. Though I did heard of that 'Poem Strategy' you mean there before. It is like the scammer will send you a message like a 'Poem type' in your mail, saying they want to inherit you something. They will then say that they are like a queen some country. Indeed not effective but we can also say that they are effective in giving a benefit to the Bitcoin network, which was great. It is just that it is still wrong if we take advantage of other innocent people. So I won't mind for BTC to work its way up slowly, in a natural and fair manner. Big investors are built for a long time. That being said, most that they do is just to buy no matter what the conditions of the markets are. People here usually just sell whenever there is a bull run and it is a crazy idea to sell first, only because you want to buy cheaply even if it is not yet the perfect time for selling.
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D4rkFalconSenior Member
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#15Sep 1, 2023, 09:49 PM
Your illustration outlines the psychological trap that catches retail traders in every single cycle, and it happens everysingle time whether this on stock market or in crypto market like this I mean you bet agains top company in wall street you basically the fish that ready to catch for them imo hahhaa. But bro do manipulation especially in bitcoin price is hard and you need atleast billion of dollar, and that works for maybe in a short term. they just learned how to manipulate retail patience and leverage. so if you trade like crazy with high leverage then you doomed.
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w1z4rd100Senior Member
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#16Sep 1, 2023, 10:59 PM
Welcome to trading. So for me, this is one of many parts of being a trader. The market is full of expectations, especially if you are in the cryptocurrency market, where volatility is huge and easily to manipulate the market or shake out the prices. For me, nothing is new here.
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viper_blockSenior Member
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#17Sep 2, 2023, 04:00 AM
And they buy it again now as the price down a lot. New traders may lack of control so when the situation running out of their expectation, they could lose control and just thinks to save their money. They don't care if the situation only just temporary, if they can takes their money back, they will do that no matter if their money reduces. If you can't controlling your emotion, you may ends like them without realize what is going on the market.
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laser51Full Member
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#18Sep 2, 2023, 05:37 AM
I like the fact that you make it more emphatically that new traders are being played, market is far beyond what we just see happen and we take decision instantly, we must give it a more closer look to see that we are able to obtain some other necessary information that are beyond what we are just viewing from the market performance, that is why we need to use the indicators accurately and also logically think about how the market should react or perform at a particular given time, newbies often fall a victim of being emotional traders, which should not be.
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#19Sep 2, 2023, 10:08 AM
I think market manipulation is indeed an open secret it’s always present in any market. It’s just that in Bitcoin, it’s harder to pull off. That’s because even to trigger a correction in Bitcoin, you need fairly strong negative fundamental news for the effect to be felt, so I more often see crypto market manipulation carried out through sentiment manipulation via news. FUD news and, conversely, news that can trigger FOMO in people are constantly being played out by those who can do so. It’s just that everything is a bit more fair here. Because if we’re observant, we can actually use it to our advantage as well.
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LoneRocketSenior Member
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#20Sep 2, 2023, 12:56 PM
What you are talking about may be true for forex, futures, and trading coins that do not have strong underlying projects, but it is not true for Bitcoin. Accumulating Bitcoin or strong project coins is not a trap (even at relatively high price levels), but rather the right strategy to follow in the long term, or what is known as DCA, where you buy with every dip or every certain period of time to accumulate more and more to get a good average price to sell at a high price in the future.
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