How to mix investing and trading strategies effectively

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the_sigmaMember
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#1Aug 28, 2018, 05:21 PM
You can totally mix investing with trading by splitting your funds between long-term positions and short-term trades. It’s all about finding that balance, so set clear objectives, keep an eye on risk, and stick to your plan. Investing focuses on stability and growth over time, while trading is more about jumping on market opportunities as they pop up.
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0xN0nceSenior Member
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#2Aug 28, 2018, 09:59 PM
Why would you combine it? It is with different things in mind because investing is more of a long-term type of thing, and trading is shorter. To add to this, it is also with different assets, and investments can be tangible stuff, not just cryptocurrencies. I think it is a balance between the two and making sure you can afford the following investments you plan for.
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guru2011Full Member
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#3Aug 29, 2018, 02:21 AM
Of course, you need to treat them differently. Long-term investing is usually more stable and easier to manage. But short-term trading? That can be tricky, it’s more volatile, almost like gambling at times. If you’re not smart about it, the emotional swings might push you to pull out your long-term investments just to cover trading losses. That’s why having clear goals is important, but more than that, you need the discipline to actually follow through. Without it, even the best plans can fall apart.
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alex.shardLegendary
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#4Aug 29, 2018, 02:30 AM
It depends on the coin that you are trading. It is good to avoid shit coins and also it is good to invest at the right time. Another thing is that is unfortunately a means of losing money based on market conditions for most people. Most people that are trading want to earn from trading but they are losing instead.
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johnkingSenior Member
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#5Aug 31, 2018, 11:52 AM
It is possible to be a crypto investor and also a trader. It would depend on your ability to master basic skills in both areas. Investing requires less supervision and is less risky. So it will be good to allocate more money to it. Trading is more technical and complicated, thus allocating less capital will be adviceble. Since investing is long term in nature, trading could be used as a source of income for recurrent expenditure. Having a clear plan is important to avoid using long term investment to coveup for trading losses.
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hash51Full Member
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#6Sep 1, 2018, 03:41 AM
Do we even need to ask? Investing is super simple, if you believe in Bitcoin’s future, just buy and hold. That’s it, the simplest strategy ever. But trading? Oh boy, that’s a whole different area. It’s tricky and definitely not for everyone. If you’re not smart enough to read the market like a crystal ball and predict where prices are headed, well… you might just say goodbye to your money. So, be honest with yourself. If trading isn’t your thing, no worries! You can still make money by just focusing on investing. Easy and no stress here...
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the_kingHero Member
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#7Sep 1, 2018, 09:36 AM
Not bothering to discuss between the combined investment and trade, you just do the spot trading, you have entered the two methods of the two methods. Spot trading is the same as you invest, you don't need to rush to sell it, you understand the market conditions for the growth control of the crypto asset that you buy, your spot trading method has done both methods, short and long-term problems you can adjust, no needYou separate. Unless you do margins and futures, that's another story, basically investment and trade have entered if you understand spot trading.
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w1z4rd100Senior Member
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#8Sep 1, 2018, 01:48 PM
For me, I'll focus on the most important: Risk management advantage. This approach inherently diversifies risk. Long-term positions may ride out volatility, while short-term trades can be used to hedge or take advantage of temporary price actions. Long-term holdings bring discipline and patience.
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matrix365Senior Member
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#9Sep 1, 2018, 04:34 PM
You would have a terrible experience and not too good result of this combination from two different actions: investing and trading. Trading is more addictive than investment so if you intend to combine trading and investing, you will end up with mixing your capital for trading and investing into one and only use it for one purpose: trading. As a consequence of dangerous trading, and very high risk of loss through trading, your mixed capital that as said will most likely be used only for trading, will cause big loss for you. If you do differently, like trading capital is for trading, and investment capita is for investing only, and you manage two capitals entirely different, you will succeed with investment in Bitcoin. It's not matter of what you got from trading Bitcoin, because you don't mix your capital and trading, investing together.
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node_walletSenior Member
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#10Sep 1, 2018, 06:38 PM
I don't see how you can combine investment and trading strategies, they are different and need to be treated in different ways, what they have in common is that they are same cryptocurrency. I will use Bitcoin as a case study for cryptocurrency, you don't need to have any special skills or strategy to start Bitcoin investment, it is quite simple, just understand it's circles and know how to protect your wallet security. Trading is risky and requires skills and strategies to become a profitable trader, it is not something that people should jump into. You can be an investor and a trader at the same time, investment is buying and hold for a long term while trading is buying and selling for the short term. You can diversify funds from one into the other, although it is better to diversify funds into investment than trading because it is less risky.
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tom.cobraFull Member
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#11Sep 1, 2018, 09:04 PM
Why don’t you just do them separately to avoid complication. You can invest for long term depending on how many years you plan to hold, and do some trading of those potential coins that you think will have the chances to yield bigger profits. Just as easy as that. However, while both investing and trading can be manageable, but make sure that you know their individual risk prior to investing and trading. That will help you avoid future losses, and get rid of wrong decisions that aren’t helpful at all.
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0xC0braFull Member
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#12Sep 2, 2018, 02:33 AM
It's not possible to be an investor or holders and still be a trader but it's very possible for a successful trader to become an investor or holder because when they are successfully making money from trading, they can start allocating some of their profit into buying of Bitcoin and holding for the long term gain while still trading, but if a holder that doesn't have a good skill in trading wants to start trading, they could lose all their investment into the market volatility unless they are very careful and realize when to shop. @OP, it's better to focus on one first until you become and expert before you slide to another method. For example, if you are an investors, focus to accumulate more Bitcoin, you will still be profitable on the long run, if you want to combine trading, it should be when you have already become skillful enough that you must go into trading and while going into trading, use another capital, don't take for your Bitcoin investment. That's my opinion.
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maxi_hawkFull Member
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#13Sep 3, 2018, 04:17 AM
There is no big deal being a trader and at the same time HODLing some Bitcoins. Most traders do this. For those who are risk-tolerant, it is not a risky thing to do. One can do both simultaneously without either interfering with the progress of the other. HODLing requires either investing a lump sum and leaving it there for a long period of time to appreciate, while the trader focuses on trading proper. He can still decide to DCA at intervals, and everything still goes smoothly. Trading requires good skills. Trading and investing at the same time will end in disaster if an unskilled trader and a risk-averse individual tries to do both at the same time with the intention of earning big from both trading and investing.
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bridge100Senior Member
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#14Sep 3, 2018, 08:33 AM
The best way would be holding btc for long term, and trading everything else with a smaller portion of your capital for the short term. So that means, if you have 10k dollars, have 8k in bitcoin, and with 2k, you trade whatever you want. With that 8k bitcoins you hold it no matter what for MANY years, like a decade, longer if you can. And for the rest, you try your best and try to make money. If you do make money, then you grow your capital and get richer, perfect. But if you lose it, then when Bitcoin goes up, you cash out some bitcoin and put it on trading and try again. That way, you always have some capital when you make money from bitcoin holding, but you also have some trading capital on the side that you can profit too.
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CyberFalconFull Member
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#15Sep 3, 2018, 12:33 PM
Investing for the long term and trading for the short term are totally different. I am not sure how others think about it, but I can share my strategy. When I intend to invest in something, I use the DCA strategy, of course. I start buying on every dip and move the coins on my hardware wallet. I keep holding it till it reaches my targets for a long time. After selling, I hold USDT again to buy when the market crashes once again. That's how I invest in coins. For trading I have separate funds. I take entry when I find a reasonable price. It's short-term; I wait a few days or weeks to make profits. When I get my desired profits, I sell them. That's how I managed the risk. You should make your own strategy based on your investment capabilities.
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coin_sigmaLegendary
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#16Sep 3, 2018, 06:37 PM
You can do that, but just make sure that you separate them, I mean, you have separate capital for investing and trading and then make a journal of them to monitor which one performs better. Because the strategy for investing is by the DCA method, and for trading, you can do whatever strategy you want, ICT, SMC, swing trader, or scalping, but trading needs proper risk management and discipline, and depending on your strategy, you should follow the rules of that strategy in order to stay long on the market. If you have a journal of both long-term investing and trading, you should be able to notice which one is profitable, then decide to stick with one strategy. If you are profitable with trading, then stick with it same goes for long-term investing.
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ericnovaSenior Member
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#17Sep 3, 2018, 11:16 PM
Yes, you can trade and invest at the same time by allocating your capital in such a way that 70% of it is spent on investments and, accordingly, 30% on trading. But you should not keep it all in one wallet, the best solution would be to keep your investment coins in a cold wallet, and the money intended for trading on an exchange wallet.
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darkviperFull Member
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#18Sep 6, 2018, 04:22 AM
I don't see anything wrong doing investments (Holding) and trading, I think it's also good for someone to combine both trading and investment maybe have two separate funds allocated to both sides and when trading one could easily raise alot of profits to keep accumulating enough volume of Bitcoin, maybe when the market is down the little percentage they made as profits could be used to top on their portfolio as investments and whenever they have the sense of reasoning it would be that easier to always apply risk management, and also be conscious of whatever amount they would have to lose as their major channels is focused on accumulation, although sometimes this could be so distractive if they aren't that settled for it.
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ledger_novaFull Member
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#19Sep 6, 2018, 11:05 AM
Well for me I don't see anything wrong with investing and trading because they are both profitable and sure one has to go for what's suitable for them provided they got the required funds for start up. And one can actually combine both inorder to set a financial stability pace for themselves what's important is creating a different wallet for both so they can manage them properly and know which one is profitable or generating loses cause most times joint savings or investment can be scattered.
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RogueByteFull Member
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#20Sep 6, 2018, 04:37 PM
What will work better is when you have different allocations for your investing and your trading. Do not make the mistake of using the same money for the both or you will complicate things because when the money is reducing, you would be disappointed with your choices and this can make you become unstable. Trading has its own risks while investing has its own risk too. Anyone can decide to do the both or become a professional in one but regardless of the decision that we are taking, we have to try to make sure that we are not losing but making a profit atleast most time even though we lose some. If you are making profits then there is nothing wrong in doing both investing and trading.
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