How to sign/open old bitcoins

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silentchainHero Member
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#1Nov 27, 2019, 06:30 PM
Hey everyone Back in June 2009, I tried to mine bitcoin using some commands, but I never actually got any of those coins! The value was so tiny back then that I didn't really put in much effort to find them. I've been thinking about it for years, and I thought my old computer was recycled ages ago. But guess what? I found it, and it's working again! (Not connected to the internet and stored safely now) It looks like the computer might have "automined" whenever it was online! And don’t even ask me for codes or numbers, I'm not that clueless even if my English isn’t perfect! 😂 And yeah, I know Electrum didn’t exist back in 2009! I was messing around with xml, json, sql... So, does anyone know about this? I have an "electrumkeyid," but I have no clue what it is or how to use it! Here's how to sign a transaction using an offline Electrum wallet: 1. Start with your online (seedless) wallet and create the transaction using mktx: ./electrum mktx XxxxxxA lot of numbers... Xxxx Just a heads up, the returned json has the unsigned transaction in "hex." The "complete" field is false since the transaction isn't signed, and "input_info" has parameters you need to send to the offline wallet so it knows which private keys to generate. 2. Next, sign the transaction with your offline wallet: you have to pass "hex" and "input_info" to "signrawtransaction": ./electrum signrawtransaction This command will give you a fully signed transaction, which will show as "complete." You can then send this transaction to the network using 'sendrawtransaction.
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humbleledgerLegendary
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#2Nov 27, 2019, 08:18 PM
Your post is very hard to read: you didn't mine Bitcoins, then you did, then you're copy/paste something completely irrelevant about Electrum. I'd say try again, make it clear what you're asking.
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gr3g.0rbitHero Member
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#3Nov 27, 2019, 08:50 PM
If so, then please explain the situation more since this'll just aggravate the usual "suspicions" of these kind of topics. People are rather doubtful of these claims recently.  (not that anyone can directly intervene with the recovery process) What commands had you been using in 2009? I don't get the context, is this a reference of a tutorial or the steps that you did? What's the result or error that it returned? AFAIK, that is contained in old Electrum transactions export or server synchronization. Later, renamed into "KeyID". Do you have a seed or private key backup instead? Because that's what an actual backup is. What does the file look like when you open it as text? But don't count on that information alone (it's "As Far As I Know"). If you found no progress in this topic within a few days, it's better to ask the core developers about that matter later. Link to Electrum's repo issues page: github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues
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hash_bossLegendary
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#4Nov 27, 2019, 11:34 PM
You're talking about many things at once. So i only can suggest you to search information manually either on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Main_Page or this forum using this search tool, https://ninjastic.space/search. Do you mean you write your own mining / wallet software which use SQL database and use either XML or JSON format?
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0xN0nceSenior Member
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#5Nov 30, 2019, 10:53 AM
I think i can read something from this paragraph, which make me to wonder and think if you actually understands the requirements to mining bitcoin, there are thousands of miners there making the same attempt to mine and if you could recall on what proof of work is, anyone that first complete the mathematical equations solved will emerge the one to earn bitcoin as a reward, which the kind of device expected to be used din this operation should be a high definition specification that could provide with the required speed and storage needed, i don't know how this relate to your system being recycled and how you were unable to get the block reward and thinking about it for many years, also try to proofread your post before sending, there might be some typographical errors.
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paul2017Senior Member
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#6Nov 30, 2019, 10:14 PM
Cool story bro. Is there a question? The key id was used to get the PGP signing key, which is used to authenticate the download. It is obsolete. Why are you telling us this?
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cobra_2015Full Member
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#7Nov 30, 2019, 10:22 PM
I think @op is talking about libbitcoin command sign/send transaction. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50721.msg604667#msg604667 I was not able to understand much, and I do not thinkx will come back to explain.
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#8Dec 1, 2019, 01:07 AM
Broken LLM enters the room.. I think what he meant was that he thought he didn't mine any but turns out his computer did, or that's what he thinks atleast..  And now he thinks he has some discovered some text/strings that he has found on his old safely stored computer that he thinks he can sign and get the coins. That's what I gather from his post. Or maybe my first line.
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john_satFull Member
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#9Dec 1, 2019, 02:36 AM
I think it is output from AI chatbot that have been trained on posts of some random guy from India. Or he is completely clueless and stumbled upon computer with old Electrum client...
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L0neDegenSenior Member
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#10Dec 1, 2019, 06:41 AM
No. Not at all. There may be Bitcoin. There may be altcoin. There may be nothing. You will need a lot of patience and you'll need to learn a lot. But you didn't start good enough with this post. Try to remember what you've done, try to get some order in your thoughts, start by asking for help in your local community in a language you know. There are a lot of community areas on bitcointalk. Maybe as a second step, if no proper help there, ask somebody help translating what you say - somebody meaning a person that knows at least a little bit about bitcoin, not a clueless AI. For now it's not clear what you have done, what you've tried to do, what you've found out and what does Electrum in all this equation.
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im_lynxHero Member
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#11Dec 1, 2019, 07:05 AM
Although OP was last active on May 4th and didn't reply here any further, I'll add my bits to the puzzle. If OP actually mined in 2009 with Bitcoin client software, it was likely with the original Bitcoin software (not sure if it was called Bitcoin-GUI back then or only Bitcoin Client). If this were the case, there should be a wallet.dat file on the filesystem of that computer. Have you searched for such a file on your device? Why you bring up some gibberish with Electrum is likely a completely other topic and I don't see a connection with mining in 2009 at all. In 2009 to my knowledge Electrum wallet didn't exist yet. So, what are trying to express?
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LuckyCoinLegendary
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#12Dec 3, 2019, 11:24 AM
Even so, Electrum has nothing to do with bitcoin mining. It was not invented in 2009. It would probably be with the Bitcoin client as other specialized CPU miners had not been invented yet. Unless OP was trying to somehow restore the coins into a new Electrum wallet, but that would not be possible unless they already found the location of where the bitcoin wallet was at.
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