If AI tokens crash to nearly nothing and AI machines start churning out stuff like pancakes, prices will drop massively. In around 5 years, inflation could just disappear. What kind of effect do you think that would have on the price of Bitcoin?
In five years? Seriously!!!
No it would not
The government are always aggressive towards deflation
And would print more to reduce this.
Even if AI technology is deflationary Don't forget the supposed blood that run the economy is inflationary.
Bitcoin would excel in a deflationary society
Especially with its fixed supply.
In five years, I wouldnt be surprised to see Bitcoin at $500k. ( this is what I SEE with my crystal ball).
People need to stop thinking Bitcoin will move the same way as traditional markets or be dragged down by economic conditions. Its not directly tied to them, and its not easy to manipulate either. Keep it simple and just follow the trend.
Whatever negative impact people are worried about will most likely hit fiat harder, not Bitcoin.
so considering your AI token/robot post, that's my respond.
You sure about that? inflation is always a thing that we'll have to bear and is going to live with us forever.
Maybe increase?
I guess that we'll only see that the price of Bitcoin going up and whether there's inflation that's quite high or any percentage that it does, it's bound to go up because of its nature. And change the title, are you talking about inflation? because if it's deflation then bitcoin is a deflationary currency.
I would need that crystal balls if you don't mind.
I see where op is coming from and I'll agree with the first reply on this post. The government won't sit down to watch deflation go on a rise.
This would make their dept unpayable and like they always do, they would print more money to reinflate the economy.
I expect bitcoin to be worth a lot in 5years but let's not over think it. It's better to be realistic when it comes to price even if we know it's going to be bullish, 5 years is a short period for bitcoin..
One substantiating narrative for bitcoin is the fiat money's buying power keeps going down. AI-induced abundance can flip that. By that, I mean it might make the fiat money's buying power go up. That's where I was coming from.
Bitcoin must have nothing to do with A.I. For me, they are totally different. Bullish for Bitcoin? I don't think so because for me, they are really different.
Take a look at the recent boom of A.I., which, for me, has nothing to do with Bitcoin, which reached a recent all-time high, because even before the A.I. hype, Bitcoin is just being Bitcoin, pumping or dumping, it's still the same.
Maybe but your timeframe is way too small for that to happen, it's actually going to take way longer than that before any noticeable changes will happen with the governments of the world desperately trying to regulate even the things they obviously can not regulate, deflation is an amazing concept on paper but bringing about one with this high an effect will be easier said than done and if we are even going to consider it then more time will have to be put in-between to even make it possible, it's just not something that can happen in 5 years.
For what reason will the cost of tokens approach zero? The entire AI industry is deeply unprofitable right now. This bubble was inflated only by expectations of future fabulous profits. The problem of this sector is not even in chips - the problem is in energy. AI training and inference require a huge amount of energy. Is this energy even there or will it be? Another issue is the price of this energy. Here you say the goods will become cheap. This means that you will need to sell a lot of them. Will there be sufficient demand for this? In short, will there ever be a time when the AI industry will make a profit instead of a loss?
According to your forecast, this will require a huge amount of cheap energy and a huge potential demand for cheap goods. And this is despite the fact that the transformer architecture is just a very well-trained parrot. For example, Yann LeCun considers this to be a dead end in the development of AI. All this screaming in the press about solving math problems is just to attract even more venture capital. But one day investors will ask: Where is the profit? Therefore, it is highly doubtful that AI will eliminate inflation. So inflation has been, is, and will be. And this means that the price of bitcoin will rise, as bitcoin is a deflationary asset.
Are you kidding me, inflation is part of the economy and it has been there since onset. Inflation will keep on increasing as a matter of fact the inflation in my country is 5x what it was two years ago. As long as government keeps printing more money which is their hobby, inflation continues and nothing can stop it.
Bitcoin is a long-term store of value. It means that if the network did not crash which the odd of that happening is very slim, the price of bitcoin will keep on pumping overtime because bitcoin is still in her early stage. In five years time bitcoin price might be above $250k.
Here's the thing, remember, the number of Bitcoins will not increase beyond 21 million because there will be no new creation. Bitcoin is Bitcoin and AI tokens are AI tokens. The price depends heavily on supply and demand. Demand also depends on people's desires after they learn about all the advantages of something they want to buy. People from all walks of life now know about Bitcoin and what they will use it for. You yourself wouldn't spend a large amount of money just to buy something you don't know will be beneficial to you.
Bitcoin and the tokens you're referring to are differentvery different.
Inflation will never decrease in a fiat currency economy. Because this system is designed to increase inflation. Where the government will always be in surplus and the people will always be in deficit. In this case, no matter how much technological progress there is, inflation will never decrease unless the government stops printing fiat currency. And the case of Bitcoin is different. Even if there is inflation, Bitcoin will have a valuation, even if there is no inflation, Bitcoin will have a valuation. The uniqueness and popularity of Bitcoin not only work against inflation for this. Bitcoin is decentralized, safe and gives people financial freedom.
If greed has been at an All Time High so far, 'AI robots' replacing jobs will only increase the greed even more. Do you seriously believe robots will make Bezos, Zuckerberg, Musk, Gates, all of the other Billionaires stop being greedy and life will be better than ever before? Because to me it sounds like they will only make more people have no job while expenses stay the same or are even higher considering the 'AI investment' they have to make in order to replace humans.
It has happened before and it will keep happening. You see the job of a 'cashier' quickly becoming a thing of the past. You are doing the job of a cashier now in a lot of places. Do you pay less for it? Because to me it does not sound like a fair deal.
It's not affected by it for sure in a linear way..
AI is its own breed besides the crypto space, even though they intertwine in different projects / etc.
I dont believe inflation will ever disappear, even if AI and robots make goods extremely cheap. Governments and financial institutions rely on inflation as a hidden way to extract value and manage debt, so they will always find ways to sustain it. In an AI-driven deflationary world, monetary expansion would likely increase, not stop. Bitcoin would not be fundamentally affected by this shift, only slightly influenced in the short term. Its fixed supply and independence from state control keep it relevant regardless of productivity gains. As everything becomes cheaper, monetary scarcity like Bitcoin may become even more valuable
If only it was that easy, AI replacing the jobs means that there will be workers being laid off and knowing that a lot of government have a shitty unemployment program or job relocation programs, there's bound to be more poverty more than ever and a lot more homeless and jobless people will be on the streets. AI replacing jobs will not solve inflation or anything economic, it only serves to fatten the profit of the businesses because they don't have to pay for their workers anymore because they only have to pay the IT team behind the maintenance of the AI.
Nothing, bitcoin has been before them all, all that you see comes after the introduction of bitcoin, so expect that they all learn and follow the dictates form what bitcoin gives, not that for bitcoin to go by how they were being performed, once there is no shift form the bitcoin network and its protocols, i don't think there is any other thing that cand determine or affect its market price as you thought of.
Training AI models was never cheap. It requires a lot of energy. And it is usually spent in a very inefficient way. For example: computers can calculate things faster, by doing everything in binary. But if you ask any AI model about some computations in binary or hexadecimal, then they will convert everything to decimal first, then compute it in decimal, and then convert it back. And all of that while doing many mistakes in all conversions between different bases.
The quality of such products is quite low in practice. They seem to work, if you look at them the first time, but the more you dig into the details, the more broken it turns out to be.
And then, guess what: you have more work, instead of less. Because first, you have to fix AI mistakes, and then you have to do the job correctly, from scratch.
So, I am not worried about AI taking our jobs. Actually, they will give us more things to do, because we will have to fix their hallucinations first.
I don't think so. Even now, there are places, where "using no AI tools" is considered as an advantage. If anything, it will make things more expensive. First, because it will be needed to cover losses from investing in AI, and second, because correcting someone's work is more expensive, than doing it correctly from scratch, if you know, how things should be done.
It won't be, because inflation is a tax, that is invisible, and can equally affect everyone. If governments will stop inflating their currencies, then they will lose control over it. Producing coins out of thin air is needed, to hide their problems with more money. If they will stop doing that, then some problems will arise, and they will lose their power, if people will be too disappointed.
So, if they have a choice, to use inflation, or announce bankruptcy, then they will always choose inflation.
If fiat currencies would have deflation, then Bitcoin wouldn't exist. See the message in the Genesis Block: "Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks".
As long as there will be some "bailout for banks", Bitcoin will be needed.
Inflation will never be a thing of the past. It will always exist because the government can print more money as they like. Most likely those workers that AI replaced so they can stimulate a different kind of economic growth.
As per bitcoin, well all I have to say is that I know I should be buying more today already.