I created a FOSS tool for protecting SEED phrases in emergencies

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#1Mar 4, 2024, 12:45 AM
Check it out here: https://github.com/Teycir/Sanctum Some cool features include: - 3-layer system: decoy, hidden, and panic - Layers that are cryptographically indistinguishable, similar to VeraCrypt hidden volumes - Uses client-side XChaCha20-Poly1305 encryption - Stores data on IPFS for decentralization - Key storage in RAM only, making it resistant to forensics - Completely free with open code for anyone to audit
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LuckyCoinLegendary
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#2Mar 4, 2024, 03:55 AM
Which type of duress are you referring to here when you speak of the term? The legal analysts who work with the government? Or criminals with wrenches trying to fetch your seed phrase?
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silentchainHero Member
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#3Mar 4, 2024, 04:00 AM
“$5 wrench attack - hand over a decoy wallet, real funds stay safe.” Sorry, but this statement copy-pasted from your repository made me laugh. I assume that attacker using $5 wrench to get your money doesn’t care which wallet it comes from. They show you the number written on paper, and it becomes your problem to choose between your life and your money. Given common sense, most people will choose life you don’t need money in the afterlife.
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davealphaSenior Member
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#4Mar 4, 2024, 05:34 AM
OP, as I understood, you can encrypt a file, for example where you have stored your seed phrases but what if someone forces you to open your Electrum wallet? How will your tool help in this case? I guess, it's very limited to encrypting some files but it can't help with the actual software wallets that we use. You are not guaranteed to live after giving attacker your money. If they are psychos, they'll kill you anyway, after sending them your coins, just for fun (that's fun for them) and if they aren't killers, there is a chance they won't kill you even if you don't send them your coins. I know it sounds crazy but I wouldn't send them my coins, even if they could potentially kill me. The thing is, I don't obey, that's my principle, to do not show a weakness and secondly, I believe they might kill me anyway, so why should I benefit them? God knows what's in their mind.
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gang_2011Member
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#5Mar 4, 2024, 08:03 PM
You have just asked him the question that was in my mind when I saw the topic. And the Topic of the Op is different from the content. I thought he would explained why he was forced to built the FOSS tool to protect his SEED Phrase. Probably the Op doesn't understand the term duress. Op DURESS means, you are doing something under pressure, forced, uncomfortable atmosphere, monitor with arms pointed at you to do what you don't like to do. So on what duress where built the tool?
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silentchainHero Member
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#6Mar 4, 2024, 11:26 PM
Depends on the attackers. If they are wearing masks and have not physically harmed you then after getting what they want they are more likely to let you go. Killing is the grievous crime, and I assume that most robbers try to avoid committing it. This is supported by available statistics showing that robberies involving homicide are far fewer in number than those that end without killing.
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davealphaSenior Member
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#7Mar 5, 2024, 05:29 AM
I did some research and surprisingly, discovered that chance of being killed is quite low, even if you resist to give them what they want but the chance of being seriously harmed or injured is not low, it's between 10-30 percent. The way I look at this is that, if you show them weakness and give up easily, that's a red flag for you because what if they remember your face and also remember you as a coward? Won't they try to steal something from you again? But if you resist, then you are a headache for them and will try to avoid you. I'm not very experienced into this, thanks god, but I've been in trouble once in my life. I didn't show my back, he was threatening me with knife but in the end, things changed in a way that he told me goodbye and I've never seen him again
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real_byteSenior Member
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#8Mar 5, 2024, 09:38 AM
What's the difference?  Interesting tool. Although I too must ask what kind of duress you are talking about? I have never heard of a tool that protects you under duress. But the decoy thing does sound like it might not be useful as it would be very easy to check if the wallet of the stolen seed is a decoy or not.
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