Dealing with crypto exchanges has been the biggest pain in my trading experience. I just can't wrap my head around why every platform feels the need to have its own unique trading interface. I’ve wasted so much time trying to figure out these so-called "awesome" setups. At least they finally settled on using TradingView charts thank goodness for that.
I only hit up exchanges for spot buys. But for speculation? Forex brokers are the way to go. Here’s why:
Same platform everywhere: All brokers use MetaTrader. Leverage: It’s available with brokers, but exchanges don’t offer it. Automation: There are ready-made trading bots and I can create my own using MQL.
Crypto exchanges? They remind me of a broken elevator complicated, annoying, and honestly, it’s better to just take the stairs.
I prefer trading crypto with Forex brokers over exchanges
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I do not know which country you are from but you can use leverage on crypto exchanges. Probably your government does not allow it.
There are now many exchanges with bots. Also you can build your own.
Same terminal everywhere: All brokers use MetaTrader? It is different on crypto exchanges but I prefer it on crypto exchanges also.
You do not need to use crypto exchanges because I think you are a forex trader and you prefer forex but that does not mean crypto exchanges are bad. I prefer perpetual and futures on crypto exchanges.
quantum335Newbie
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#3May 7, 2018, 04:48 PM
When I was trying to dive into trading (not full time) just trying to gain the knowledge I discovered that trading over there is likewise volatile than using exchange although, MataTrader (MT5) is extremely volatile. As then I couldn't hear the loss I had to stop and focused on holding Bitcoin because I wasn't good enough in trading. In cryptocurrency exchange you can trade over there and make profit and of course there are people who are trading there on a daily basis and makes their profits without them even have to use MT5.
There must be individuals who have made huge profits still from trading cryptocurrencies on exchanges. To these people, exchanges are the best and they will in a second recommend it's use to other new traders who seek their opinions. I am not saying I am right, but I think that whatever works for you is good enough, and if you are profiting from trading on exchanges, it is okay to still focus on it as long as you are able to maintain your profit margin and possibly improve it.
Maybe the problem isnt crypto itself, maybe you're just not using the right exchanges. In this market, we see billions of dollars moving in and out every 24 hours. That alone shows how much trust people have in crypto and the exchanges that support it.
If the exchange is your only issue, thats something that can easily be fixed. Try using one of the most popular and reliable platforms.
Personally, I use and recommend Binance. Have you tried it?
quantum_forkMember
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#6May 9, 2018, 07:19 PM
Each exchange's terminal only differ a little but and most of them use the same tradingview for their chart, I don't really think it's problem.
Exchange also offer high leverage, some even 1000x in their future trading. I think you just didn't dive deep enough.
These exchange also exposes API for you to use your own custom robots. Those reasons you mentioned aren't really strong reasoning to begin with.
One thing I want to ask you, do these forex brokers really trade real crypto or just a paper?
Why you want to choose forex broker instead of crypto exchange where the real trade happens and the liquidity is abundant?
Can't wrap my head around it really.
If every crypto exchange has a different trading terminal, how exactly am I supposed to build a bot that works everywhere? I'd have to use their APIs, and sometimes those APIs are restricted, rate-limited, or even behind a paywall.
Plus, not every exchange offers proper API access. I could spend weeks developing a working bot, and then if I have to switch to another platform, theres no guarantee Id be able to reuse it. Thats a major risk most people dont consider when talking about building custom bots.
Why do you consider Binance to be a suitable exchange? Its founder was incarcerated for defrauding investors and money laundering. The exchange itself received a record fine for its offenses. Furthermore, it was involved in money laundering from Iran and facilitated the cashing out of stolen cryptocurrency by hackers.
I could continue listing all the accusations and offenses, a portion of which have been proven in court.
I've genuinely never heard of exchanges offering 1000x leverage. Which ones are you talking about?
I don't see anything wrong with using Forex brokers to trade cryptocurrencies instead of existing crypto exchanges. It doesn't matter because everyone's interests, habits, needs...are different, you just need to choose what you think is best for you.
In trading or investing, what matters is how to make a lot of money and as long as you can make a lot of money, it doesn't matter what tools, strategies or platforms you use.
I don't see any problem with that. Why should you have to trade Bitcoin across 10 platforms. Just choose one favorite platform of yours and you are good to go.
There's nothing significantly different. You probably just too rigid.
Available in exchanges too, it depends on where you come from though. If you are from places like the US, sorry.
Bots are available for trading crypto too. Maybe you just don't know where to look?
Pick one exchange and stick to it. What is the point of being a crypto exchange tourist?
Who even trades 1000x on crypto volatile as it is? You know why most exchanges don't offer leverage that high.
the_cryptoNewbie
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#11May 10, 2018, 03:24 PM
Not all crypto currencies are traded in classic Forex brokers. This could lead to miss many chances including to not use DeFi product (or other decentralized product like the Classic Dex).
It Is really worth? If you are able to trade the coins and use services profitable so the answer Is yes, otherwise I will made a try also with "crypto brokers" or similars.
just_vectorNewbie
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#12May 10, 2018, 09:30 PM
In fact, forex brokers will have way lower fees even when it comes for crypto.
Crypto-Exchangers, do have insane fees for opening/closing a position.
Hands down, this is the best take in the whole thread.
DEX isnt some magic fix either. You still miss out on coins, and youre trading in a jungle full of MEV bots and sketchy contracts. Unless you really know what youre doing, it's a high-risk game.
Sure, just pick one platform and hope you dont get drained by hidden withdrawal fees or random network limits solid advice!
Meanwhile, Im over here asking for basic tools like lock-in on leveraged positions or open access to bot libraries
and all I get is crickets.
Crypto exchanges out here acting like its still 1999, while Forex lets you build and test custom bots like its a science lab.
The three features you mentioned, except the first in your list which I don't know whether exchanges offer it or not, but the remaining two are available in most of the exchanges I use. Although, I understand exchanges offer different services in different regions in order to align with each region regulation. Perhaps, your region prohibited them from offering such services to your people due to high risk involved.
I think it's all about preference and what you're conversant with among the two. Exchanges feel more secured to some traders than using brokers but each has advantage and disadvantages as well.
That's how it is everywhere. It's probably because you were still new to trading at that time. For someone with a soft heart can easily faint having first time experience using MT4/5 especially when you are trading with a high lot size
It's obvious you must've had sad experience(s) trading cryptos on exchanges to have come up with such a frightening submission, no doubt. I can't argue otherwise with you. Nonetheless, it's not so on my part. I've the opportune moment of trading on both Forex brokerage and exchanges too. My experience isn't anything close to what you described there. I've tested both waters. Are you sure the difficulty you've been experiencing isn't from certain restrictions your country has and not that it's an exchange issue?
Again, trading cryptos on forex brokerage will leave one with less options to choose from than when one's trading on the "ideal" place on exchanges. Forex brokers only list top cryptos, and not newly listed pairs like exchanges do. I believe you must've observed that too.
I have a bad experience when trading forex, even feel using meta traders as the most annoying experience, and spot trading on crypto exchanges is much easier to do even though the interface will vary from exchange to exchange.
The bad results of crypto may be the trigger for you to like forex trading more, and in my opinion forex is more volatile than spot trading in crypto.
cipher_orbitNewbie
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#17May 14, 2018, 09:10 AM
If you are more comfortable with forex than crypto trading then just go with what you want if you are not profitable in crypto trading. But you should know that forex is different from crypto trading because that is my knowledge.
That is true not all community traders in the field of crypto space are truly making money in this industry, and if there are any that are not profitable it is because there is something wrong with their tactics it is as simple as that.
quantum335Newbie
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#18May 14, 2018, 02:03 PM
Trading with a higher lot size is like driving on the high way without break. As a beginner it's not advisable to start trading with high lot size without them having to understand how the trading works, it could be that going with high lot would depends on their equity as most times you can't trading with high lot size of 1.00 while you are having less than $50 in their trading account, this wouldn't take upto 20-30 minute to get drained up. It would be better to start with demo to cultivate themselves very well.
moonhub723Newbie
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#19May 16, 2018, 08:06 AM
Yeah, there are orthodox people who never ready to adapt new things but instead of giving a try on new developments, they do complain; which is the exact scenario, I am smelling with OP. Crypto is kind of adapt or die technology. If you start ignoring crypto space for whatever reasons you cooked up, you may stay where you are but new developments will keep on flying on its own pace for sure.
I can revert back these with respect to forex platforms as well. Probably you are talking out of your own experiences or some assumptions. Personally I have been using both crypto and forex platforms for long times hence you cannot derive a common scenario among these two.
coinlab644Member
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#20May 18, 2018, 06:22 AM
Your opinion is somehow opposite to what I know about forex brokers. There trading fees are too high compared to crypto exchanges that offer leverages and lot more option of different crypto pairs. Crypto pairs are less availability in many brokers maybe because they don't want to offer dangerous crypto assets that could crash at anytime leaving themselves and their customers in huge loses.
Trading cryptocurrency using a broker is not that suitable at all although your personal opinion is welcome. Brokers can not regulate crypto projects but can offer their services to their customers with limitations. Brokers are strictly for trading and there is nothing like buying and holding. Trading on a brokers is like you are in the future trade which can be very risky for those that don't understand how it works. Exchanges offers leverage trading but not having access to it could be due to your region.
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