IRS encourages holding onto Bitcoin long-term

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diamond_2020Legendary
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#1Apr 30, 2019, 06:16 AM
If you hang onto your coins for over a year, you're looking at long-term capital gains tax rates of 0%, 15%, or 20%. But for coins held less than that, expect short-term rates ranging from 0% to 37%. Those are the top rates what you actually pay will depend on your tax bracket. For example, in 2021, single filers with no kids paid 0% on the first $40,400 they made (including profits from sales), 15% on income between $40,401 and $445,850, and 20% on anything beyond that. Married folks have higher thresholds. Chandrasekera mentioned that the long-term capital gains rate is super friendly. Wealthy individuals tend to hold onto their assets for at least a year before selling. So, I’d say follow their lead and just HODL. Right now, I can't really compare this to crypto taxes in Russia, since there aren’t clear guidelines on how to declare or pay taxes on crypto there. Personal income tax in Russia varies between 9% and 35%, but if you're self-employed, you can pay just 4% as long as your fiat exchange doesn’t go over 2,400,000 rubles (which is about $32,360).
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L0neDegenSenior Member
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#2May 2, 2019, 12:45 PM
Are there any clarifications on how they consider these "coins held"? I am asking because iirc in countries like Germany at first everybody rejoiced that long time holders are tax free, and the clarifications have starting to pop out that this applies only if the coins are held by certain custodians and the values are under some 600 EUR. I mean that although the news does look good, it needs to be clarified more, and the newspaper doesn't do that for now.
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diamond_2020Legendary
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#3May 2, 2019, 05:06 PM
You are absolutely right that newspapers love nice headlines. This helps to get the minimum amount of information you need. I communicate on the forums of accountants and electronic reporting systems and there during the day they can help you to understand the legislation in more detail or provide links to clarifications. In the most difficult case in Russia, you can write a letter to the tax office and get an official answer in 10 days. For now, the Russian tax authorities allow crypto users to pay tax at the minimum rate, and if the limit is exceeded, then you can register a self-employed with your wife, mother or other relative. This is done using an app on your mobile phone.
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LoneRocketSenior Member
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#4May 4, 2019, 06:05 PM
I think that taxes on cryptocurrencies differ from one country to another, there are some countries that impose high taxes and there are some countries where Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies are fully or partially exempt from taxes permanently or according to circumstances, this is a list of countries in which cryptocurrencies are exempt from taxes : 1- Germany 2- Singapore 3- Portugal 4-Malta 5-Malaysia 6-Belarus 7-Switzerland Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerhuang/2019/06/24/seven-countries-where-cryptocurrency-investments-are-not-taxed/?sh=30c892de7303
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diamond_atlasSenior Member
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#5May 4, 2019, 10:57 PM
it's not news, just an opinion that crypto holders should take advantage of the tax incentives aimed at long term investors. the IRS already said in 2014 that bitcoin is treated as "property" for federal tax purposes. https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/n-14-21.pdf that means that crypto transactions are subject to the standard capital gains tax regime, just like all other forms of personal property---cars, collectibles, art, whatever. there is no ambiguity about it. short term capital gains (assets held for 1 year or less) are taxed at your ordinary tax rate, up to 37% depending what tax bracket your income puts you in. the taxes on long term capital gains (assets held for over a year) are capped at 20%. for most people, they are capped at 15%. americans should absolutely be thinking about the tax implications of short term selling, especially during bull runs like this. minimizing tax liability in this regime is all about timing.
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diamond_2011Full Member
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#6May 5, 2019, 03:26 AM
There is a clearer explanation here shown as a tax table (p. 67) created in this pdf coming from the IRS website. Also I don't think they are "promoting" it per se because the short-term and long-term capital gains rate applies to all kinds of assets and it doesn't only apply to cryptocurrencies so taxes in long-term assets might have lower rates since they are expecting more income from this capital gains rather than short-term ones which you will just get from day/swing trading. Note: Keep in mind that some cryptocurrencies that are labelled/classified as securities might be covered in the marked-to-market rule of the IRS which treats the Capital Gain on a 60-40 basis. Capital gains in this rule is treated as 60% long-term capital gain and 40% short-term capital gain regardless on how long have you held that crypto. Bro the taxing laws in the US are so messed up.
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miner420Full Member
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#7May 5, 2019, 11:01 PM
The mark-to-market election -- which provides huge tax advantages for those who qualify -- is unlikely to apply to anyone here. It's reserved for securities dealers, people that hold securities as capital assets with the intention of brokering them to others. Ordinary traders and investors do not qualify, and must report all their transactions as specifically either short-term or long-term proceeds:
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