Physical stores accepting stablecoins for payments

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wolf2020Senior Member
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#1Feb 3, 2017, 03:01 PM
Does anyone know of any brick-and-mortar shops or merchants that allow payments with stablecoins? There’s a lot of buzz around stablecoins being the future of money, combining the best aspects of fiat and crypto. In the US, Congress just passed a law supporting stablecoins, and the President signed it. Looks like they want stablecoins to become the go-to digital currency, both in the States and globally. No need for central bank digital currencies anymore. Plus, the blockchain networks that host stablecoins usually have quick transaction times and low fees. So, using stablecoins might be way more convenient than paying with regular cryptos like Bitcoin or Ethereum, and definitely better than swiping a credit or debit card. Would love to hear what you all have found out. Your comments would mean a lot. Cheers.
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dav3v1perSenior Member
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#2Feb 3, 2017, 07:31 PM
I have never seen a physical store that accepts stablecoins, but it's not surprising that stores use stablecoins for transactions. I know local businesses that accept stablecoins as payment, but it's mostly online businesses. They do accept Bitcoin, too, but more people prefer to pay with stablecoins.  It's fast and has very little fees, plus it's not volatile and unstable, where the price doesn't change within 5 hours. In terms of using for payment, it has an advantage over Bitcoin because of the confirmation time, it's not volatile, and it's backed by the dollar. The dollar is already a dominant currency, so it won't be difficult for people to accept a cryptocurrency-based dollar.  The US backing stablecoins may increase the dollar's dominance, or should I say popularity, by making it easier to get and spend, but it might also backfire because people would be using the dollar without actually using the dollar. If more people who were supposed to use the dollar for international transactions stop using the dollar and use USDT, for example, that would mean the demand for the dollar might drop, and that can affect the value of the dollar.
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dan.foxFull Member
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#3Feb 3, 2017, 11:03 PM
No, I have not seen any stores or merchants accepting stablecoins or any cryptocurrency as a payment method, and that's mostly because cryptocurrencies are not yet legal in our country, so businesses don't have legal rights to accept cryptocurrencies, because if they do so, the banks they have their business accounts with will stop providing them services because banks will only allow this if state bank allows them to do so, and state bank won't do anything as long as the government doesn't show them the green flag. Coming to CBDCs, do you think that governments or state banks of countries are planning to create CBDCs for the convenience of their people? If you think so, you are so naive, because the actual reality behind that is that they want to fool their people by saying that they have their own stable cryptocurrency, but in reality, it's basically a digital form of fiat, which is totally under their control, and they can do whatever they want with the coins or tokens generated. So, they can freeze your money, block your account, or hold your funds and transactions whenever they want.
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im_novaFull Member
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#4Feb 4, 2017, 03:49 AM
I've never seen a physical store accepting a stablecoin payment from a wallet to their address. Still, I've seen physical stores accepting payment via an exchange, like, you have money on the exchange and send money to their account. Still, it's not a transaction recorded on blockchain, it's a transaction made inside the exchange system. Stablecoins aren't the future of money because they are centralised. You have to have real USD and other assets behind the stablecoin and when you have this, your stablecoin becomes regulated. DAI stablecoin is an interesting project because it's decentralised but somehow it's not as popular as Tether and USDC.
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greg.bearMember
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#5Feb 4, 2017, 04:40 AM
I've seen one in my country, in one Abuja estates like that, went into a boutique to pick up some few things and was about doing P2P to pay Fiat but I casually chipped the possibility of paying in crypto to the benefit and he obliged, even saying I could pay in Bitcoin if I wanted. Finally he gave me his Binance ID and I paid in USDT. Most enlightened vendors in my country would accept it, although they would've include it in their billboards because the country isn't yet very crypto friendly. The stablecoins like USDT and USDC are pegged to the dollar and have reserves backed by the dollar 1:1, so for every USDT you're issued has an equivalent dollar backing which still keeps the dollar in demand as more USDT are issued.
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john.cobraHero Member
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#6Feb 4, 2017, 06:26 AM
I've paid with Bitcoin and seen options for many other alts, but never for so-called stablecoins. Maybe the reason is that most stablecoins can be frozen regardless of which wallet they are in, and also those who know how the companies behind them work are aware that stories about these tokens being pegged with some fiat currency are just fairy tales for small children. If an independent and thorough audit of all major so-called stablecoins were conducted, I am pretty sure it would reveal how much scam there is. If you're wondering why this doesn't happen, the reason is very simple - it's the ideal way to launder money that everyone from the top to the bottom of the pyramid uses today.
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its_vaultFull Member
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#7Feb 4, 2017, 07:13 AM
There was an handset (phone) shop accepting bitcoin in my location last two years but it is no longer accepting again because of the government policies on cryptocurrency. For a merchant or a shop owners to accept cryptocurrency might not be a big deal but another thing which will affect or hinder transaction is the converting coins fee. Most people only have bitcoin and if the business owner accepting only stablecoins , he has to convert the bitcoin to the stablecoin before buying the goods. And the process of converting Bitcoin to stablecoin his costly. So they should also consider that factor too. And as I said, the policy of the country means a lot in that magnitude. If cryptocurrency is accepted in business, and the transaction fee is very low then it will affect fiat business.
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dan.whaleFull Member
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#8Feb 4, 2017, 01:07 PM
In my country, a lot of merchants already allows payments in many major cryptocurrency especially bitcoin and stable coins. Even with they government not in full advocate of cryptocurrency, it's still being used for many payments locally.
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maxgasSenior Member
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#9Feb 4, 2017, 02:10 PM
For the very first time I doubted that one can really see or find such stores that accepts cryptocurrency and that's because crypto isn't government approved in my country though you can find some states within that tends to use it as a mode of exchange which is quite alright. So then i was surfing the net a certain time and came across a post where the person made known the exchanges he collects payments and I had to link a friend close by that area to confirm if it's true and absolutely he confirmed it.
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maxi2017Senior Member
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#10Feb 4, 2017, 04:39 PM
Actually, not for stablecoins specifically.  But hey, in my country, some brick-and-mortar stores let you pay with different cryptocorrencies, even some stablecoins included.  Its all thanks to the payment processor they are using - its a pretty common one around here.
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CyberFalconFull Member
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#11Feb 4, 2017, 04:52 PM
I am not aware of any physical store that has been accepting stablecoins. As usual my government doesn't allow the use of cryptocurrency, so there's no chance to see any physical store that allows payment in crypto. Even I have visited almost ten countries where I haven't seen such stores. To be honest, Bitcoin seems to have become an investment scheme rather than a crypto payment. I have to admit that due to difficulties stores aren't very interested in accepting Bitcoin. The main problem is high transaction fees and confirmation delays. Here stablecoins would stand; it doesn't take time to become confirmed and has lower fees. Likely we can see stablecoins accepted in most stores in time. And Bitcoin would become a store of value in most cases. Another form of stablecoin would be CBDC in the near future.
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humblefarmSenior Member
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#12Feb 7, 2017, 02:16 AM
The US will favour stablecoins because the majority of major ones are pegged to the dollar. The government will simply take control of the companies that issue these coins, and it will become the digital dollars in disguise. Due to the popularity of the dollar and the low transaction fee, stablecoins are widely used among crypto users in my country. It is even more popular than my country's CBDC. Bitcoin and Ethereum are mainly used as an asset this period, while stablecoins seem to be popular for retail financial transactions.
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raven_maxiSenior Member
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#13Feb 8, 2017, 06:33 PM
I believe is crypto-currency starts to get in use fully and properly stable coins would be very instrumental in making all that possible. In my country holding stable coins is a better alternative than owning a domiciliary account. To business people wanting to adopt Crypto-currency and integrating it into their business then stable coins can come in very handy for name. Stable coin like its name offers more stable value making it more similar to Fiat than any other crypto-currency.
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HyperGweiSenior Member
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#14Feb 9, 2017, 11:15 AM
Most stablecoins are pegged to the U.S. dollar and backed by reserves held by the issuers, but CBDC's are digital version of a nations fiat currency and backed by the Central Bank. So there is a difference between the two currencies and i don't think stablecoins will eliminate the need for CBDC's. Not that there is any need for CBDC's to begin with, but the government desire it because it is pro-surveillance and it will aid their anti-privacy "campaign". That said, to answer OP's question, i have not seen any physical store in my country that accepts stablecoins.
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boss07Member
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#15Feb 9, 2017, 01:46 PM
Today there are credit cards that can be loaded with cryptos, I use the KAST card in my daily life and I'm sure that this will be the future of crypto usage, like conventional money without even the merchant knowing that you are using crypto... I think accepting or not accepting cryptos or stable coins nowadays doesn't make the slightest difference...
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RogueMoonFull Member
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#16Feb 9, 2017, 04:07 PM
This is not new though. I already heard one before. I can't only remember the name of it. Not sure if it's from crypto dot com or they also have one? That KAST you said there must be new but that was great that many are joining that game. It allows people to have more options to choose from if in case some has a better offer. If we think about it, cards are not new but digital payments and cryptos are still invented and slowly becoming a thing, so I do not think these crypto cards are going to be the future. If we are on a country where crypto is restricted, I would refrain from using it (just to be safe) because they might still have measures to check it. Not all are the same, so it does make a difference to some if crypto or stable coin is accepted or not.
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wolf2020Senior Member
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#17Feb 9, 2017, 08:50 PM
Accepting Bitcoin as payment method would be a long shot. Especially with how volatile and impractical it is. But stablecoins? That's another subject. Most of the stablecoins we know and love today are running on highly-scalable blockchain networks, making payments a breeze (near-instant finality, and ultra-low fees). I guess what's holding physical stores and/or retailers from accepting stablecoins is regulatory compliance. As in, how would the government react when integrating stablecoin payments at a PoS (which stands for Point of Sale) system. Stablecoins are transparent-by-design, so regulatory compliance shouldn't be much of an issue. It's easier to collect taxes out of stablecoin transactions, than it's the case with Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. Stablecoins began to gain traction recently due to legislation in favor of it (particularly in the US), so we should start seeing stores opening their arms to it soon. Who knows? Maybe stablecoins will go as far as replacing traditional debit/credit cards. One can only hope...
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#18Feb 9, 2017, 10:57 PM
I’ve seen a few coffee shops and small local stores in major cities like NYC and Miami starting to accept USDC and USDT, but it’s still kinda rare. Most merchants still rely on crypto payment processors like BitPay or CoinPayments, which let them accept stablecoins alongside BTC/ETH. You could check their websites or ask in the store before showing up. DYOR tho, not every place updates their payment options regularly.
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probablynoth1ngFull Member
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#19Feb 10, 2017, 12:10 AM
I disagree, it depends on the amount of bitcoin payments you are getting. If you are getting tons of it and there are mostly bitcoin payments then yes it is not a smart move to do that, I would suggest stablecoins or even fiat in that case and you can then turn that into bitcoin if you wish to. However, if we are talking about just a straight up small part of your payments in bitcoin, then consider that your savings and it could work very well because it could go up later on.
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#20Feb 10, 2017, 07:28 PM
If BTC is majority of your income, then yeah, relying fully on it is risky. Volatility + bills don’t mix well. Using fiat or stables for cashflow makes sense, then DCA back into BTC if that’s your plan. But if BTC is just a small % of payments, treating it like long-term savings isn’t dumb at all. It removes the temptation to spend and lets time do its thing. Many ppl wish they’d done that earlier.
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