Possible effects of swapping BTC for stablecoins before DCAing

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bengweiSenior Member
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#1Mar 22, 2019, 06:13 PM
What are your thoughts on the potential effects of converting BTC into stablecoins before starting to dollar-cost average?
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silentchainHero Member
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#2Mar 22, 2019, 07:42 PM
Converting bitcoin to stable coin you mean I guess is USDT? There is no much implication about it rather you have only stored your asset value in a stability coin where it would not be affected with the fluctuations of the bitcoin market originally. So then, you will only be missing out when the bitcoin market has gained some appreciative values since your fund was held on a stable coin but you will feel lucky to had already hedged your fund on a stable coin when you find the market depreciated before swapping back your funds from the stable coin to bitcoin.
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matrix2014Senior Member
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#3Mar 22, 2019, 08:05 PM
I don't see there's another answer except you sell too early and you DCA-ing during Bitcoin price was high, which resulting in less profit. Remember, less profit, I'm not saying you're in loss because DCA-ing Bitcoin is looking for long term prospect, like 4 years. People who have familiar with Bitcoin should use buy the dip strategy especially if we have a lot money, we can potentially earn more in the long run.
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mike.chadSenior Member
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#4Mar 22, 2019, 10:48 PM
What do you mean by implication? Because I think you will leave everyone guessing what you mean. Maybe you have to direct more on what you mean. For me I don't see implication. You may already know that converting btc to usdt, you are going to be charged a very low few because it is conversion in the exchange, maybe $0.1 or so. If you are using binance to do that, I believe the few is very low, you move your btc from spot wallet to funding wallet where you convert to usdt. There and then you have pegged your coin and if you want to transfer for DCA payment, you are charged $1, which I think is better and cheaper to transact with usdt than btc to be sure of your fees.
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john.cobraHero Member
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#5Mar 23, 2019, 09:41 AM
I will tell you that I would be far more concerned about preserving my value in most so-called stablecoins, even though they are supposedly backed by fiat at a 1:1 ratio - but the fact is that most are centralized to the point where they can be frozen regardless of which wallet they are in. For me personally, it is riskier to have a stablecoin than fiat, because the latter is backed by states, unlike private companies that print tokens as they please and claim that they are backed by something.
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bengweiSenior Member
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#6Mar 23, 2019, 12:16 PM
Would you then prefer to use BTC instead of using stable coins for any plans on a DCA scale? Because obviously I doubt BTC can be frozen in any wallet just as easily as stablecoins or Fiat currency would. Many persons may intend to DCA BTC but may be limited in their knowledge that stablecoins as well as Fiat currency backed by a countries bank reserve can also serve for DCA strategic investment  purposes. With such implications or ramifications which stresses on the difficult and  unintended consequences of using fait backed currency or stable coins to DCA, am sure that the fear of having ones asset frozen ranks among the least of concerns, if one actually knows a sure stablecoin or Fiat currency to use for DCA investment strategy.
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orbit_2013Full Member
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#7Mar 24, 2019, 09:36 AM
Just take into account that, in several jurisdictions, every conversion between cryptos (and stablecoins are not an exception) are taxable events, so take it into account if you plan to "freeze" the value of your BTC, because if you live in any of these countries you'll be contracting a debt on capital gains that can be really painful.
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its_ninjaSenior Member
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#8Mar 24, 2019, 03:34 PM
The main implication is that the price of bitcoin will go up and down, so if we convert it to stablecoin before DCAing then our risk would be lower because we can buy more coins when they're cheaper than usual.
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leo.wolfHero Member
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#9Mar 24, 2019, 08:50 PM
What I am yet to understand is why sell off to stablecoin and then start DCAing back into bitcoin again. The only reason why one will be doing this is when the asset isn’t the one you are going to DCA into. For example if you’re planning to sell off your bitcoin now all in the name of there is a possible chance of it dipping below again and if you sell now that it is high you can get a discount or add up quantities when you buy later, i wouldn’t say this is a bad idea but it certainly not the best form of idea in a consolidating or a fluctuating market like this. You might sell off today and probably the market bounce back tomorrow and that means you’re already in a loss, this particular market condition isn’t favourable for selling and buying back, rather it is a period of holding and accumulating more if you have means. This means that if you already have some bitcoin holdings, hold them and do not panic and sell, the market will most certainly bounce back. And if you’re looking for extra accumulation then you can simply daily DCA now if you have extra funds because the market is in a consolidating stage now and good grant more opportunity to accumulate more
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john.cobraHero Member
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#10Mar 24, 2019, 10:02 PM
I always choose BTC because I consider it safer than fiat or stablecoins for the reasons I already mentioned - but let's say that everything can have its purpose at a certain time. If you want to minimize risks and always have the option that gives you maximum performance, I think you have to balance between multiple options. For long-term storage of value, BTC has proven to be very good so far, while fiat and stablecoins are similar in this regard because they lose value due to inflation - with the fact that if you already have a certain value in fiat, you should always choose the strongest currencies, whether it is the British pound, the euro, the US dollar or the Swiss franc.
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just_satFull Member
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#11Mar 25, 2019, 01:38 AM
If you are planning on DCAing, why would you convert bitcoin to stablecoin? Isn't DCA supposed to be a method where you try to accumulate more bitcoins? Why sell it and hold stablecoins instead? I think the best way would be converting your fiat to stablecoins, holding that while you wait for the time you want to buy bitcoin. It can be scheduled or it can be for a specific price. The important thing is that you have money ready on the exchange or wallet so that you can immediately convert it to bitcoin when you finally see fit.
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jake_gweiSenior Member
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#12Mar 25, 2019, 03:43 AM
fees will be your concern and as other mentioned the price volatility. if we're into more technical risk carried by stablecoin, it would be depegging, although stablecoin might look stable but value keeps going up on down on a really low range but it will matter if you trade big money. i think it's wiser to avoid all those problem and just buy bitcoin directly.
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fox_byteHero Member
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#13Mar 25, 2019, 01:22 PM
Since DCA is a long-term strategy where Bitcoin is bought periodically, stablecoins should only be used if the fees for cash (local currency) are high or it is difficult to execute Bitcoin purchase orders directly, as many traders prefer to sell BTC/STABLECOIN instead of USD or local currency.
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Crypt0NodeFull Member
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#14Mar 25, 2019, 03:21 PM
bro that's like the opposite of DCA'ing lol. you'd be taking a volatile asset (BTC), selling it for a stable asset (stablecoin), then slowly buying back the volatile asset. the only implication is you're adding extra taxable events and giving up any upside while your stablecoins sit there. if BTC moons in between your DCA buys, you just lost a ton of sats. the whole point of DCA is you don't try to time the market. just DCA with fiat straight into BTC. adding extra steps with stablecoins doesn't make sense unless you're actively trading, which is the opposite of DCA mindset
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jake.seedFull Member
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#15Mar 25, 2019, 07:49 PM
The most disadvantage of doing this is that if BTC pumps after converting, you’ll end up buying at an higher price, a very big opportunity cost. As in the case of depegging, it can affect your stable coin price. Due to their custodial and regulatory framework, you can also face the risk of freeze from probably the exchange you’re trading them from. Converting from BTC to stable coins and then back to BTC for DCAing can incur multiple taxes if used in a country where such tax is being imposed already on such transactions, this conversion can also come about extra trading fees and higher slippage.
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cobra2021Full Member
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#16Mar 25, 2019, 08:39 PM
Well now am also curious? What about in the case of where you hoard the coin the USDT in the exchange just for the cost of price fee for sending via BTC to your non custodial wallet probably due to the fact that you have been receiving your pay or buying through CEX, that's the sole purpose was just to gather enough coin so that when sending you will be charged just once although it will depend on the particular season of the bear as this would be beneficial during the bear market and not the bull when there is high possibility that the price might have spike up
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humblefarmSenior Member
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#17Mar 27, 2019, 06:06 PM
Some investors prefer to convert their coins to a stablecoin after selling BTC during the bull run to preserve their value from dropping during the bear market. They might start DCA when the price starts dropping during the bear market.    In terms of safety, Bitcoin stands out since you control your money without any restriction or control of any central authority. I wouldn't keep my funds in any stablecoin because they cannot be trusted. Some of the claims that these stablecoins are backed by sufficient assets have not been verified. I would prefer to convert my funds to a stable fiat currency rather than stablecoins.
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#18Mar 27, 2019, 08:05 PM
For beginners, this adds extra complexity. DCA is meant to reduce stress and emotions. Once you convert to stablecoins, you start watching the chart more closely, waiting for “better entries.” That’s where hesitation and second-guessing creep in. It kinda defeats the psychological benefit of DCA.
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p1x3l365Senior Member
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#19Mar 27, 2019, 08:46 PM
I think you should had gone more in details because I don't know how one would already own bitcoin before converting it to stable coins when you're not at the point of selling it for fiats. Or you do you mean to invest on stable coins rather than bitcoin? Just think about it, it's unreasonable to convert your bitcoin to stable coins and same time Dcaing because that means you're stacking stable coins but acquiring it through bitcoin. I'm just curious because I see no how reasonable why I have to convert my bitcoin portfolio to stable coins on the process of Dcaing. But anyways, the implications may be Fud.
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BasedGasHero Member
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#20Mar 28, 2019, 01:19 AM
Why should one convert their BTC to a stablecoin while they are following DCAing? Converting BTC to a stablecoin make the cashing out easier and keep the profit in the standby mode and ready to buy BTC back when the market dumps, apart from that one doesn't have any reason to use stablecoins when it comes to investment.
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