Understanding Bitcoin Mining Profitability

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#1Jun 1, 2021, 12:59 AM
hey everyone, Can someone explain how to get the most accurate calculation for bitcoin mining profits? I’ve noticed that different websites show varying profitability figures. Also, does anyone have an estimate on the profitability for an Antminer S21 Pro? It has 234Th and uses 3510w. Appreciate the help!
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Gig4L0rdSenior Member
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#2Jun 1, 2021, 01:45 AM
How much $ do you pay per kwh?
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#3Jun 1, 2021, 06:19 AM
Enter your electricity price into the calculator. https://www.asicminervalue.com/miners/bitmain/antminer-s21-pro-234th If the calculator now has a payback of 2 years at 5 cents of electricity cost, I would expect a payback of 3 years. But if bitcoin is worth $100,000 next year, the payback could be in 1 year. It depends on at what price you will sell bitcoin or other coins. Unfortunately, it's impossible to be more precise.
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#4Jun 1, 2021, 10:40 AM
I think there is one variable missing from this equation. Namely - prices per kWh. Based on this, the price can vary from + n$/day to -n$/day.
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#5Jun 1, 2021, 04:47 PM
It mainly depends on your cost of electricity. However I would advise you to only measure your numbers in bitcoin terms. Fiat based calculation does not make any sense because you have an opportunity cost that is to buy spot bitcoin right now instead of mining. Therefore, the real question is are you better off by mining or buying. The best calculator to use in my opinion is ( https://insights.braiins.com/en/profitability-calculator ) because it can display all data in bitcoins.
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#6Jun 1, 2021, 05:32 PM
It's all written right here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5507245.msg64462951#msg64462951 I've never used complicated calculators. They don't give an accurate result because we don't know the price of bitcoin in the future. We may not be able to sell bitcoin at $60,000 for a few years, but we have no guarantee that the price will be higher in 2 years. And any asic will be obsolete in 2 years, and an old asic can only be used if you have cheap electricity.
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#7Jun 1, 2021, 06:27 PM
For exemple i have electricity at 0.07 USD/kwh. Is it worth it to buy some S21 XP or other new miners ?
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#8Jun 1, 2021, 10:47 PM
With electricity at $0.07/kWh, it’s a bit on the pricey side, so you’d really have to crunch the numbers. The S21 XP is solid, but your profitability will depend a lot on Bitcoin’s price and how efficiently your setup runs. I’d recommend using the Braiins calculator to get a better idea.
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#9Jun 1, 2021, 11:49 PM
if you get the s21 pro for 4500-4800 usd lets do math. 234th 3510 watts at 7 cents or 234 x 0.0475 = $11.11  usd in coin 3.6 kwatts x 24 = 86.4 kwatts round up to 90 kwatts at 7 cents or $6.30 so $11.11- 6.30 = $4.81 a day profit. you will be close to even in 1000 days. it is an if  a maybe. The question is how many can you run? do you have power for 1 or 2 or 20? If you can run 2 I would buy 1 and run it I would also buy 4800 in btc. After time see what the better move was. if you can run 20 at that price it is very risky. Also the xp is much too much money to buy at this moment. plus you have to wait to get it.
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#10Jun 2, 2021, 01:33 AM
If you have the opportunity to start mining for free or with very little investment on electrics, then I would buy asics. But if you need to repair the premises, rent, security, noise boxes and other additional costs that will greatly affect the payback, then here you need to consult on circumstances. And then there are also tax issues. If you are mining in a private house, your neighbours may not like the noise. You need to consider all these circumstances.
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#11Jun 2, 2021, 05:31 AM
You forgot to mention some other very important points 1. The cost of purchased asics. Large companies have a good discount on the bulk batch and there are instalments. 2. Large companies have a logistics channel with a warranty service. A little funny story. A miner in Russia bought an asic for $1500 in China and it broke down. Then the miner found out that there are no service centres in Russia. Then he found out that the Chinese service centre will repair the asic for free, but the miner has to pay for delivery services himself. And the whole humour is that these delivery services are more expensive than the cost of a new asic today.
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alpha23Full Member
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#12Jun 2, 2021, 06:28 AM
Is there a service you guys use to compare mining profitability of each chain or ya'll just stick to bitcoin?
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#13Jun 2, 2021, 12:17 PM
Since you ask this question on Bitcoin forum, i expect most of miner here would stick to Bitcoin. Although you can use website such as https://whattomine.com/asic to compare profit between coins using same algorithm.
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#14Jun 2, 2021, 03:37 PM
Explore these calculators https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5481629.msg63501742#msg63501742 Asics usually mine 1 algorithm, litecoin asics can mine LTC and additional 2 coins( DOGe🐶+$BEL). For asics, I like this resource https://www.asicminervalue.com/
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