Understanding Lightning and Its Functionality

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guru777Full Member
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#1Nov 11, 2018, 10:09 PM
I came across someone in the BTC Lightning Network Nodes Monthly Overview thread who claimed that Lightning is centralized. I tried to break it down in the simplest terms, but for some reason, the original post got deleted, so I figured I’d start a new discussion here about what Lightning really is, how it operates, and all things related. I've seen similar arguments before, saying Lightning isn't decentralized and that it doesn't count as Bitcoin. I get that it can be confusing since not everyone has a tech background. So, I'll do my best to explain Lightning in straightforward terms. Lightning is basically an extra layer of software that enhances the Bitcoin software. It's not its own separate network; it's an upgrade that runs on top of Bitcoin’s peer-to-peer setup. You can't use Lightning without the Bitcoin software. To get started with Lightning and open a payment channel, you first need to have Bitcoin installed. It’s just a tool that allows transactions to occur off-chain by enabling two Bitcoin nodes to create payment channels between them. Once they choose to close that channel, the final transaction is recorded on the main blockchain. The bitcoins used in Lightning are real bitcoins, held on the main chain. There are various software versions out there made by different developers, like LND, Core Lightning, and Eclair. A lot of people don’t even grasp how Bitcoin operates, nor do they run Bitcoin software. They miss the fact that Bitcoin is fundamentally a peer-to-peer network.
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max_lynxSenior Member
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#2Nov 12, 2018, 03:08 AM
you’ve summed it up pretty well. it’s not a different network, it’s still bitcoin. lightning network just allows for faster and cheaper transactions through bitcoin. the differences are that with the lightning network, it can be a bit too technical to use. the bitcoin network itself is the layer 1 and the lightning network is the layer 2.
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ColdViperSenior Member
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#3Nov 14, 2018, 01:18 PM
I would like to learn more about how the Lightning Network works. If a transaction is made while offline on the Bitcoin Lightning Network, will it be processed and updated as soon as the device goes back online? Or does it remain pending in an offline state that requires both parties to come online and confirm it? It would be helpful to understand this with a diagram or graph.
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diamond_atlasSenior Member
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#4Nov 14, 2018, 07:02 PM
Writing about it is too overwhelming and not actually necessary as there are many guide threads about Bitcoin Lightning Network. Mastering the Lightning Network. the Lightning Network FAQs. Electrum Lightning Network walkthrough Lists of open-source bitcoin lightning wallets. A Beginner's guideline to Bitcoin Lightning Network. [Guide] FULL NODE OpenSUSE 15.3: bitcoind + electrs + c-lightning + RTL
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pixel2014Hero Member
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#5Nov 17, 2018, 02:08 AM
You do not need to run a node before you will understand what bitcoin is. Bitcoin network is decenlized and coins send on bitcoin lightning network is bitcoin. It is good that you know that later but I did not run a node before knowing all these, only what I did is that I read very well about bitcoin lightning network for me to understand what it is.
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tonydegenFull Member
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#6Nov 17, 2018, 05:35 AM
Lighting is cool for a few reasons, but I like the idea of splitting individual satoshis into 1,000 units. When it settles on chain, it's rounded to the nearest whole satoshi, but in Lightning you can send micropayments. Fast micropayments are important/useful for mass adoption initiatives and applications.
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BasedGasHero Member
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#7Nov 17, 2018, 11:18 AM
Not true, it is just another software that anyone can run if they have internet and 1TB of disk space, so running a node doesn't make them that they are aware of what is bitcoin, what decentralization is, and LN is a separate topic that has nothing to do with qt. What I would like to add is that coin on LN isn't wrapped or tokenized bitcoin, it is just bitcoin as it is.
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omega2017Full Member
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#8Nov 17, 2018, 01:32 PM
It's running credit on a layer 1 where i got it. Try to get out of obligations. Buy a company that produces goods. morgan style. You don't show up at meetings or inspections. Got a lift. See you later. "I am a coward busting myself". On lyrics.
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