Zcash or Monero: Which one will prevail?

So, Zcash just skyrocketed in price from around 50 bucks to nearly 700 in just a month. Meanwhile, Monero, a coin known for its solid privacy features, seems to be struggling. Exchanges keep dropping it, and it's way off its all-time high of over 500 from May 2021. There was a bit of a spike that took it to around 400, but still... If governments are so against privacy coins, why's there all this buzz? I mean, these coins might get kicked off all centralized exchanges eventually. That can't be good, especially for Monero that heavily focuses on privacy. Do you reckon Zcash's price surge is just a flash in the pan? Or do you think it can hold its value for a bit? Right now, XMR and ZEC are pretty much even in market cap. Do you believe XMR can overtake ZEC and break into the top 10 coins by market cap? I'd love to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks a lot!

Zcash has two types of addresses based on its transparency, and the majority of ZEC volume is T-addresses (non-private); I don't think they pose a direct threat to regulators like XMR. Also, almost all Zcash flowing to centralized services is deposited by users via T-addresses. I don't know, what's happening now is that the exchange (1 of top 5) that I use have recently added zcash which means more regulations are allowing zcash to be traded legally

Bull runs of competitor Coins do not matter in this case.  Monero has been de listed from pretty much all the largest Centralized Exchanges and yet it is still living not well, VERY well.  A more stable Price will in my opinion benefit Monero as it acts less like a Shit Coin and more like a valuable Asset. Zcash not having protocol level Privacy means it will not serve the Privacy purposes it is meant to.  Only partially.  When there is a need for Privacy there is no room for 'partially'.  Either you get Privacy or you do not want the Coin.  See the people who run away from Cards and Banks.  They want either Cash or they rather not use it at all. You may argue Zcash is the same as my example, you can have any of the two and if you want you can have only the Privacy side of it.  But Zcash has both systems integrated in to the same thing.  Imagine having Cash but you had to keep it in an offline still digital Wallet with out any body else knowing.  But you would use the same offline digital Wallet to do Banking too.  It lacks sense and it can not provide a feeling of Safety like Cash does. Bitcoin has done its part in the Public Blockchain area.  Monero is going to keep dominating in my opinion the Private Blockchain area.  There is a lot of hype because if Governments are against Privacy Coins it means that Privacy is more valuable than EVER.  Can the Governments be against Freedom and people be hyped about new opportunities for Freedom? When the Central Bank Digital Currencies start popping up you will have two choices.  Privacy by running away from the system or no Privacy.  That is when people will start actually valuing Monero for what it is in my opinion.  If Privacy Coins are hyped, trendy but the only one missing the party is Monero then it makes me believe it is not a natural hype but a way some entities try to control the Market against Monero.  You can not be hyped about Zcash particularly for its Privacy which is only partially but not be hyped about Monero which offers TOTAL Privacy.

Just like the bull market has always been. The hype is mostly FOMO based. If you recall how Dogecoin first pumped leading to the memecoin craze and then we later had SHIBA INU and Pepe. It doesn't mean that SHIB or Pepe were any better, but this was just traders trying to make some quick bucks The same pump of Zec is not long-lived. Once we hit the bear market, there will be a huge dump. In fact, the dump will be as hard as the pump was or close to it, as we speak, the price is already at $467. When it comes to privacy, Monero is still the undisputed king. By the way, did you know the ZEC's all-time high was somewhere between $5K-$3K. That was the price when the coin just got launched, so that recent $700 surge is just nothing Compare this price graphs and tell me which coin is having a natural growth and is stronger. Monero ZCash

There's a saying that there's time for everything, the pump of Zcash doesn't mean that monero is not also going perform better in the future, we already know that market manipulation is very possible with some of this altcoins and some of them have seasons too where they can experience sadden pump, I'm not holding any of those coins but even if I want to invest on it, I might like buy them both cuz I don't know the one that can give me a better profit than the other. Investing on altcoins is based on luck.

You make many mistakes here. First mistake is that Zcash pumped from $50 to $764 in more than 2 months. Also it pumped above $700. The second mistake you made is that monero was left behind, that is not true, monero also pumped. Monero pumped from $100 to $477. Privacy coins are being talked about by some important people on X, especially Zcash, which result in Zcash pump.

If Zcash price fell from $5k to the current price of $467, the I'm afraid there is no point making the comparison between them because Monero does not offer real utility, it is becoming a thing of choice for people who value their privacy. If the censorship continues, then a lot of people will move to Monero for all their deals. So my guess is that Monero will always outshine Zcash, now and in the future.

Zcash became my big question, why it could get a bigger and faster increase without me realizing it, and this private coin was again mentioned and discussed among the old crypto, unfortunately I missed it. Monero is very extreme in terms of privacy, it is not traceable and is really 100% in favor of privacy, therefore the government does not like it and therefore it is also very prone to suspicion of crimes that are very difficult to trace because it is made blind in monero, while Zcash has more friendly features and can get more attention for privacy because if needed proof of transactions can be seen if requested, This is a better alternative in privacy coins, therefore because not a few people who are active in this digital world do not like to show themselves and be seen in all their activities, Zcash is the best solution and can also have more opportunities to be listed on many exchanges in the future. Speaking of coins and price trend speculation just like anything else that there will be the same volatility, but Zcash has a better chance because it can be accepted in various regulations and of course exchanges can also list it on their market, while Monero will be very difficult to get exchange liquidity and there is always the threat of delisting almost all exchanges. For this competition, as long as Monero can have optional features like what Zcash has, they will regain their name and not conflict with any regulations, we know that Monero is a mainstay for people who have activities on the Darknet.

While Price and at least holding its value if not gaining more of it matters, it is not everything.  When it comes to Privacy, even if the Currency is losing value by factors such as inflation it is still going to be demanded.  Cash comes as a good example again.  A lot of people who hold their Wealth in Cash know that it is losing value every single year but would rather have PRIVACY than hold on to Digital Fiat in Bank accounts they do not have full control over. So judging Monero and Zcash only by its chart will not be of any help.  If the Price of Monero fell 10 times lower and stayed there for a very long time then I would not be happy about it but I will definitely continue to use Monero for the Privacy it offers.  Like Bitcoin is very important for having control over your own Wealth, Monero is very important for this AND Privacy.  So far however, even if it was attacked many times by many Governments, it looks like it can shine and survive even the worst conditions where all the main big Markets expel it, ban it, censor it.  This makes Monero an unbeatable monster in the coming dystopia.

Though it does not seem that critical with the core attribute being privacy, the chart comparison over time paints a picture about how people believe in the coin and the demand behind it. When you compare the two charts, you can clearly see which coin is having a positive, stable growth over time despite the hardships such as exchange delistings. This tells us which coin people believe in more, and it shows how insignificant Z cash's recent hype was.

Monero is a good example that privacy can't be killed and yet the world relies on it, too many people cares about privacy and that's why monero will always be alive, they kept delisting thinking it will make a difference but it never does, it is something that people just need as much as Bitcoin, to me Monero is far from been a shit coin like people called alternative coins.

I have heard of that but I think this doesn't apply to all, like what if the coin is a shitcoin? Will there still be a time for it to pump? But for the case of Monero, there is definitely a chance, more that privacy coins are now slowly getting back on track again. Only weak coins need manipulation but for the strong coins like Monero, there is no need for that. Once the name of the privacy coins are cleared completely, many people will have a strong confidence again to go for Monero for protecting their privacy. Sadly I am not hearing anything about the other untraceable coin, Grin which was once supported by this community. Many exchanges already delisted Grin for regulation compliance. I still hold few, not sure that I meet at least break-even.

I think the fact there are so many exchanges and services which are being pushed to delist Monero is a good example of that coin being the actual privacy asset anyone concerned with their date is supposed to bet on. There are other coins which focus on privacy which are not delisted immediately from exchanges because governments and intelligence agencies have ways to track the path of money on those Blockchains, but with Monero it is different. So in my opinion Monero has more chances to become the standard in the future for privacy focused assets, while ZEC may remain as a complementary coin for those who wish to especulate on it's value in the long or mid term.

I may have exaggerated things a bit due to ZEC's fast increase in price (especially the part about going up within a month), but you do get the point. Didn't I mention that Monero had a brief "pump" in one of my previous posts? Even if Monero went from $100 to $477, it hasn't risen that much compared to Zcash. The latter has been the one with the most gains lately. It's all due to hype, considering that Monero is a much better coin. XMR has better privacy/anonymity, and a stronger community. But as with anything in crypto land, a few influencers, shillers or influential people can make even the most insignificant coin rise all the way to glory. We'll see if other privacy coins get hyped soon. Maybe Dash, Grin, and Beam are next? Either way, I think XMR will ultimately prevail.

It will probably take a LONG time before Monero prevails and it will probably start prevailing only when people are actually looking for real Privacy out of fear of losing theirs instead of looking for which Altcoin makes them the most Money.  Until then, they will live in fantasy land and will not care about what is important. In other words.  They will probably start reaching for Monero when Monero will become too big to handle already.  I would much rather have a slowly growing Asset than a swinging one and I feel much safer knowing Monero survives with almost no Exchanges listed on instead of not knowing whether Zcash would survive as well or not.  Which I doubt it will anyway.  The Cryptocurrency that will be predominantly accepted on underground Markets will be the one to prevail when Privacy becomes inexistent.  And so far it is particularly Monero.

I think it's short-mid term movement. Monero doesn't pump as hard because clearly it's easier to get the money rolling into something that has less privacy features and can be regulated more with ease, but it doesn't matter in the long run for us.

The problem with Zcash is its "double-sided" nature. Transparent addresses (t-addresses) are still a thing, allowing it to be regulatory-compliant. With Monero, that is not the case. I've noticed that every single centralized exchange or swap service requires you to deposit ZEC to a t-address just to perform a trade. So you can see what all of the fuss is about. ZEC hyped because it can be easily manipulated by powerful entities. I'm glad all Monero transactions are private by default. Otherwise, it would've been easy for governments to manipulate it. Not only that, but Monero is much more decentralized than its counterparts. Being ASIC-resistant, allows anyone at home with a CPU or GPU to mine it. If XMR gets de-listed from all CEXs, trading will resume through DEXs. There will be less liquidity and trading volume, but at least, it's better something than nothing. I hope people recognize the true importance of financial privacy someday. I guess the "fun" will start once CBDCs take over the world by storm. Just you wait and see.