7nm Avalon ASIC (A3206) • AvalonMiner A9 • 0.06-0.07 J/GH

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#1Nov 25, 2020, 11:58 PM
Edit: I think that screenshot that says "A3207" is just a mistake and it should actually say "A3206". I changed the topic title to correct that. It seems like redtheminer was the first to drop this info: Product: AvalonMiner A9 series Speed: 26.5TH/s 30TH/s Power: 1720 W (on average) Energy efficiency: 0.06~0.07 J/GH Chip: A3207 7nm ASIC Fan: 1x 14038 fan Note: This info might change (translation?)
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darkguruHero Member
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#2Nov 26, 2020, 12:59 AM
Sweet. Will be interesting to see the pricing of it. Along these lines, wonder if Blokforge.com upgraded my recent order for an APW3++ to the 1,800w APW7 (for free) because they know I'll be getting some of these. Safe bet Blokforge knew about these coming out and being the superb company they are them giving the free upgrade would not surprise me in the least
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mike_farmSenior Member
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#3Nov 26, 2020, 05:46 AM
Cryptouniverse (official Canaan distributor) also posted news about this: https://www.cryptouniverse.at/canaan-announces-avalonminer-a9-the-most-efficient-7nm-bitcoin-miner-in-2018/
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#4Nov 26, 2020, 07:57 AM
I wonder if they will get the power usage down more over time not that it matters it doesn't i have solar i can run three of those in my house with no issue the only pain i see is the noise level those fans do 61 Db .. but id like to see the power usage go down as the th goes up that would be nicer to see . but they beat out the one i linked from Blokforge.com some place that maxes out at 33 th i think it was and usages close to 4 k WATS at max, i think it was that claimed to be 7nm due in Nov 2018 .  The GMO miner B3 33TH/S miner Blokforge has as a per order. but the A9 looks like it can be better.
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#5Nov 26, 2020, 10:19 AM
the pangolin  M10 is 33,000 gh at 2145 or 65 watts a th don't know if it has speed settings like the avalon 841 has the avalon a9 is 26,500 at 1,720 =  64.9 watts a th don't know if it has speed settings  but reads 26,500 to 30,000 I would love to set it to 1720 watts  as 3 fit on a 30 amp 240 volt nicely  doing 5160 So  Avalon .....  A9 ...........................64.9 watts  Pangolin.... M10 .........................65.0 watts  Innosilicon. T2 Turbo................... 71.0 watts  GMO......... forgot the name......... 82.0 watts  BitMain...... S9 .......................... 100 watts all per th   So bitmain keeps selling the cheap s9's til ? I am looking forward to getting some avalons asap
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#6Nov 26, 2020, 10:27 AM
I wonder if the Avalon will still have the 30 deg C limit? Is that due to only being a single fan?
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CryptoWalletFull Member
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#7Nov 26, 2020, 12:29 PM
I'm not entirely sure if this issue was resolved, but I thought it was firmware related. I've run my 841's all summer at 32°c to 41°c with no issues. Pushed high one day to 42°c and I dropped them to the -1 offset. Either way, I'm "all in" waiting for this release. Great company!!!
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#8Nov 26, 2020, 04:28 PM
Same, up to 40C here ambient with mediocre exhaust still . .  not recommended though. Have to watch my PSU's not my avalons at these temps I'm seeing though summer now. Fun day for announcements, glad Canaan will be ready for market soon. Was there word on pricing? 26-30th/s is broad range for them though. Speculation on end result and wattage? Thanks for the break down philipma, always appreciated.
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hodler2019Legendary
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#9Nov 26, 2020, 08:38 PM
They run at 40 c  but drop efficiency  841's do this. 30c  they are more efficient but -1 or -2 settings help efficiency . This year we had 1 hot week  and my 841's ran in 92f 95f 97f 94f   days with zero issues ... both the s9's and t1's dropped boards with those temps
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#10Nov 26, 2020, 10:58 PM
Interesting to note that 1720 watts is right up against the power limit for running (2) on a 220V 20amp circuit continuouosly.  20 amps /2 = 10 amps * 80% max = 8 amps * 220V = 1760Watts. Nice design point!
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#11Nov 27, 2020, 01:12 AM
yeah works for 10 amp circuits =rare 20 amp common 30 amp common 50 amp less common would really like a mini version  13000gh and 850 watts  but that is not going to happen.
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#12Nov 27, 2020, 01:54 AM
I have seen recent activity on the Avalon 851 firmware and guessing it's probably for this unless they are releasing a slower model first like they did with the 821. Hopefully you'll be able to chain these with the 8's. I'd guess that they are just waiting to shit on the competition. If they already have something similar or more efficient, they could sell it at 2x's current S9 price and still be cheaper than everyone else.
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#13Nov 27, 2020, 06:41 AM
Why? Is a bad idea... As with the 7 & 8's the miners will be using different firmware and unless ran at default settings will no doubt want different Vcore voltage/offset tweaks. Even mixing within 1 family is not a good idea, aside from the tweaks, if you update firmware ALL miners on the controller are updated to it. Trust me: a 721 does not like thinking it just became a 741.-- been there, done that and fortunately was easy to back out of. Same for the 8's. RasPi's are cheap so it is best to just take the most sensible course
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#14Nov 27, 2020, 08:22 AM
yeah   3 avalon long chains are close to bullet proof. that is 12 per rasp pi. and a rasp pi can be built for under 80 dollars https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-Starter-Premium-Black/dp/B07BCC8PK7/ref=sr_1_1_sspa? so pick up  a few of them. it only runs into a big expense if you go to a 1200 miner build as  105 at 80 = 8040 if you go to this level  you should consider a server  that does more the 4 usb ports. chains that a rasp pi does. chains of 5 have a bit more errors then chains of 4 which have a bit more errors then chains of 3 which are close to error free.
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#15Nov 27, 2020, 12:31 PM
Mainly so I don't have to add a switch, more controllers, cabling, and create more points of failure. I fully understand the issues with upgrading firmware and that under/overclocking settings will apply to all units. I run on default settings and currently mix 821 and 841 units without issues.
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#16Nov 29, 2020, 11:22 AM
https://twitter.com/stevenmosher/status/1024605157902835712 7nm  256 cores per chip  ( 2x)  the 16nm https://twitter.com/stevenmosher/status/1024605165200932864 chips bring up
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#17Nov 29, 2020, 12:58 PM
Looking forward to this
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leo51Senior Member
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#18Nov 29, 2020, 06:36 PM
Hmmm. Now I have to find somewhere to Install another 30 amp circuit. Can't wait to see if this offers the same flexibility in voltage settings. They've been a lifesaver running the 841 during the hot summer. Maybe they'll bundle 3 together and sell them like the "moose", call it the "deer". A nice home miner setup.
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LoneChadFull Member
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#19Nov 30, 2020, 12:51 AM
That would be nice, so a 30A 240v will run three? Maybe I'll wait on some upgrades if this is the case.
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paul2020Member
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#20Nov 30, 2020, 02:46 AM
Listed wattage would put you around 21.5 amps for 3 units and 14.3 amps for 2 units.
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