Bitcoin and the rise of a new global elite

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cobra2021Full Member
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#1Dec 10, 2017, 03:02 PM
We've mostly seen wealth sitting in places like ports, banks, and big industries. But Bitcoin is shaking that up. Now a random kid in places like Vietnam, Argentina, and Lebanon can tap into the same financial asset as the guys on Wall Street. For maybe the first time ever, this is about financial access without needing any permission from local institutions. This borderless currency is challenging the traditional financial powerhouses. Are we about to witness one of the most major shifts in financial opportunity in our time?
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HumbleP1x3lFull Member
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#2Dec 12, 2017, 08:57 PM
The Bitcoin may give access to anyone purchase, Owning the same assets as the billionaires are holding but isn't it just a currency? Although people are owning the same asset but the knowledge, conviction and time remain totally uneaven distributed. That's why Bitcoin would still for majority for smart people who did adapt with the flow of time and they did have everything they dreamt of , maybe not dt possible
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#3Dec 13, 2017, 12:20 AM
Bitcoin has really break border. Back then your country determine the amount of money u can hold. But now a teen with a phone can hold source asset as a Wall Street. But the access didn’t mean automatic benefit, this real edge goes to those who can survive volatility and understand how it works. So this create total fairness not a total equality. My  question Are we replacing old elite with a new digital one or we are moving to a level ground ?
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real_guruFull Member
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#4Dec 13, 2017, 03:13 AM
Bitcoin is open to all and can be accessed by everyone irrespective of age, race, sex, or nationality. The most beautiful part is that it has given individuals the opportunity to have access to a global asset without many barriers. However, everyone should be careful to understand that easy and free access to Bitcoin does not mean instant wealth and financial freedom for all those who can access it. Bitcoin does not provide financial equality. Your chances of being successful with Bitcoin still depend on how well you understand it, your income level, risk tolerance, and your ability to pursue Bitcoin for the long term.
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alex_shardSenior Member
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#5Dec 13, 2017, 03:43 AM
Don't under estimate the power of traditional centralized financial banking system. It can incorporate as well instead of repressing any novelty which can be harmful for it. Bitcoin is in existence since so many years and it seems the traditional system is still has its hold and not only that even using btc to gain more wealth for few individuals
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CalmLordFull Member
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#6Dec 13, 2017, 04:51 AM
To own Bitcoin, you need some qualifications, which are the ability to operate a smart device, knowledge about Bitcoin, trust in Bitcoin, and having the money to buy Bitcoin. Although everyone has the freedom to own Bitcoin, the ability to own Bitcoin is still limited to a certain class of people. A child is not qualified to own and transact Bitcoin, just like most adults are not qualified to own and transact Bitcoin. The reason for this is lack of knowledge or lack of money or lack of trust or lagging behind in technology.
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CalmYieldSenior Member
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#7Dec 13, 2017, 10:22 AM
The redistribution thing is some thing of the past.  Yes we do have a few more Billionaires and many more Millionaires out of Bitcoin alone but look where the Wealth is being redistributed.  Look at Saylor.  Look at The United States.  A lot of Bitcoin changed hands from average people like you say to particularly those older global elites. There is nothing new.  They know how to manipulate and take advantage of most of us.  They will, because it brings them more Wealth.  And other than a few more Wealthy individuals, the same people who were in oil, precious metals, real estate et cetera are going to make a crap load of money out of Bitcoin too while average people will buy high and sell low.
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DarkBullMember
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#8Dec 13, 2017, 04:27 PM
That's not exactly the case. Bitcoin has created new millionaires, but compared to the traditional wealthy, this new money represents a very limited group. How many people actually bought or mined Bitcoin early on and held onto it all the way to these insane prices? Most Bitcoins have already changed hands. Most early adopters have sold their coins. Control of Bitcoin remains in the hands of the elite. There aren't that many people who bought at a few dollars and could hold on all the way to these levels. The system hasn't changed, it simply created an opportunity for those who had early access to information, that's it.
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silentchainHero Member
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#9Dec 13, 2017, 09:47 PM
Asking this question is like the possibilities of bitcoin with its potentials is still on the Test Running or experimental level. Of course the financial technology has proven its reality and since 2009 it was introduced, it has also taken the global monetary system to the dimension that has not been invoke according to its potential values and technological innovations. We have also come to see how far the governments had sighted it as threat to the traditional monetarists due to its decentralization and discouraged the masses to stay off it but today's same governments after seeing its worth is encouraging the masses through the friendly of the crypto regulations. We have also come to whiteness lot of the critics coming back to take positions of owning portfolio of the bitcoin. How convenience and productive is the bitcoin currency that we even now have the alt coins. That proves how the digital financial technology is taking over the globe with its financial inclusion potentiality.
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cobra2013Senior Member
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#10Dec 14, 2017, 01:01 AM
The reality is that Bitcoin might not be able to offer a solution to the problem of wealth concentration. In the first place, I don't think Bitcoin was created for the sake of redistribution. Bitcoin doesn't discriminate. Bitcoin is great to those who have been marginalized by the current financial and banking systems. However, everybody has access to Bitcoin, rich and poor alike. Those who have the wealth can have more of it than those who can only afford to stack small amounts of Sats.
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chad100Senior Member
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#11Dec 14, 2017, 12:14 PM
A teenager from Vietnam, or most citizens in developing nations for that matter, is far more likely to fall victim to a crypto scam than to ever become a Bitcoin millionaire. That is just what the well-known statistics show. However, the rise of cryptocurrency has certainly minted new billionaires—specifically exchange founders and project developers. A good number of them have already received prison sentences, and some have even finished serving their time. So, let's look at the bigger picture. Has Bitcoin actually made the world a better place? I immediately think of the energy crises in developing countries, massive frauds, and North Korean hackers who have stolen enough funds to directly finance their nuclear missile programs. The icing on the cake is Donald Trump’s return to power, heavily backed by the pockets of crypto magnates. And I won’t even bring up his family's own crypto ventures.
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proto_viperFull Member
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#12Dec 14, 2017, 03:48 PM
It is changing entire way of thinking with respect to money and economic power. For decades, people geographical locations determined their entire financial luck, and billions of people were kept out from traditional banking system. What in my opinion is the most freeing thing to happen to global finance, is the breaking down of those fake boundaries with free network. I think the true brilliance is that system could not care about your passport or your local politics or anything else, it treats each computer in its entirety equally. Old institutions are getting the shock of their lives as Wall Street is no longer the only provider of the world most solid asset. We are certainly at the very start of huge, unstoppable state of wealth sharing.
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quantumninjaFull Member
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#13Dec 14, 2017, 06:22 PM
Aren't you exaggerating? Especially here. These monetary assets, like on Wall Street, aren't just lying around in the open, where you can just come and take them. To get them, you have to put in the effort. And I think you're exaggerating the role of bitcoin, because the internet offers truly amazing opportunities, thanks to which anyone, anywhere in the world, using their diligence, skills, and abilities, can gain access to financial assets (and earn money), even to bitcoin. For the first time (via the Internet), we see creative accessibility (the opportunity to realize oneself) that is independent of the local employer. Resources have always undergone a process of redistribution. Perhaps Strategy and Blackrock will become very influential in the future due to the resources (bitcoin) they've accumulated. But don't you think that today, every teenager using bitcoin can achieve the same level of influence and financial resources as a major banker? Again, you're exaggerating. This was possible in the early stages of bitcoin, but not anymore.
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defi_2017Senior Member
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#14Dec 14, 2017, 06:51 PM
Yes he is. It seemed also an exaggeration back in 2011 but it made more sense back then. I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen. You could have bought bitcoin literally for pennies at the lowest and for $26 at the highest. These days, with prices as they are, to build up a substantial fortune in Bitcoin, you either already had a substantial fortune to begin with – which isn’t what the OP is referring to – or you have to practise dollar-cost averaging over a long period of time. And even if you spend a decade saving whatever you can from a regular worker’s salary, you’re not going to join the ‘elite’. If we use https://dcabtc.com/ we can see that someone that has bought $100 every month for the past 9 years would have invested $10,800 of their own money and would have a total of $43,450. Not bad but far from 'elite'.
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bull_2015Member
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#15Dec 15, 2017, 07:20 AM
Bitcoin is a tool, arguably the most powerful tool created so far for producing the kind of outcomes you mention. It is the vehicle traveling on the highways of electronics and computer science. I do believe that in the coming decades we will witness a different world. Individual and collective decisions will increasingly be influenced by people who hold significant amounts of Bitcoin, both at the global level and within local communities. Bitcoin is not just economic power; as many people here have pointed out, it is also a reflection of conviction, knowledge, and long-term thinking. Accumulating Bitcoin requires much more than a few dollars. It demands sacrifice, patience, emotional control, and the ability to withstand uncertainty when others cannot. On top of everything already discussed, I would add that Bitcoin is still a young invention. Many of the older guardians of the established order simply do not understand it, and that's part of what makes this period so fascinating. In a way, we're all a bit like trolls disrupting systems that have existed for generations. The irony is that elites often undermine themselves through stagnation. Institutions grow old, comfortable, and resistant to change, while new ideas continue to emerge from unexpected places.
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paul.stakeHero Member
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#16Dec 15, 2017, 01:18 PM
It definitely levels the playing field for access, which is huge for anyone dealing with hyperinflation. But let's be real, the "new elite" is still mostly dictated by who has capital to deploy. Wall Street ETFs and early whales are vacuuming up supply faster than a teenager in Lebanon can stack sats. Bitcoin fixes financial exclusion and breaks the regional monopoly, but it doesn't bring "equality". I don't think the current elite will just submit to a "new elite" that easily, and that's why they're buying all the bitcoin.
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dan.whaleFull Member
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#17Dec 15, 2017, 06:05 PM
I saw a post before it was deleted earlier and it said if bitcoin didn't get to $1000 will it have been popular like it is today. That post got me thinking, what do people really understand from where Bitcoin has gotten to today? I think may still think that Bitcoin got to it's level today because of it's volatile price. They have to understand that Bitcoin is growing because if it's wide variety of use and thus furthering adoption. Adoption is the main reason Bitcoins price has grown that huge. It didn't suddenly become popular because people saw they could make profits. Bitcoin can be used in our everyday life and it offers solutions to problems which the ordinary financial systems could not solve.
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maxi2017Senior Member
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#18Dec 15, 2017, 09:22 PM
Yes, but lets be real, having equal access does not mean everyone has an equal opportunity.  It is great that a kid in Argentina can get out of a broken banking system and own the same asset as a big Wall Street player.  That really breaks the old way wealth was controlled. But Wall Street buys billions worth, while that kid is only buying tiny amounts.  And, if the market drops 30%, a hedge fund just has a rough quarter, but that family in a struggling economy loses everything they have. Bitcoin evens the playing field, but everyone still starts the game with completely different stack of chips.
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sat_2011Full Member
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#19Dec 15, 2017, 10:10 PM
Yes, Bitcoin is a great invention, and it was the first to genuinely weaken the monopoly of the dominant financial region, but it does not fully break the monopoly because most infrastructure and financial dominance are still tied to the West. But despite how BTC presents a more decentralized global financial system that empowers nondominant regions and individuals. The level of BTC self custody holding will be practiced now and in the future; instead of ETF investment, will determine if BTC will continue to weaken the monopoly of the financial dominant region, especially now that Wall Street is buying more BTC than most people from the nondominant financial regions
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leo.atlasMember
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#20Dec 16, 2017, 12:43 AM
In the end, Bitcoin continues to show itself to be a better currency and asset rather than just another weapon for socialist equality, which I think is an intriguing accomplishment and the true revolutionary of the monopoly of financially dominant regions. The real question is whether there are enough people or teenagers in Lebanon who continue to hold their own bag for the long-term cause that will still add up, even though Wall Street ETFs and early whales have amassed more than a teen in Lebanon.
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