No matter how you look at Bitcoin's rising fame and its growing use across different places, it definitely seems like a quiet protest against a failing economic system.
Besides just being an investment, we should also think of Bitcoin as a form of resistance.
Sure, some might disagree, but it's clear that many users are turning to Bitcoin as a more reliable option compared to their weak local currencies, thanks to its numerous benefits, even with the ups and downs in value.
In this light, Bitcoin is shifting focus from just making money to highlighting a serious lack of trust in traditional institutions.
Bitcoin as a form of economic rebellion
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Nope, it's meme investment that competes with popular stocks and sports betting. It's been about nothing but profits since it broke $1M in market cap.
95% of BTC holders do so through an app, a broker, or one of the ETFs. They don't know what "decentralization" is and they don't care. They don't care about "protesting" anything, they just want to sell Bitcoin for more than they paid for it. Bitcoin isn't a "protest" anymore than betting on Man City to win the title on Kalshi is a protest (it's just good sense since we all know Arsenal are going to blow it ).
I think that the 2008 financial crisis probably made Satoshi see it more as a measure to protect capital that didn't depend on any entity than as a protest in itself, and that need to have to trust third parties to store money is mitigated with Bitcoin, basically as a kind of patch to the banking system. He possibly knew that Bitcoin would never replace the traditional banking system, but he surely did it with the intention of proposing a free economy.
I think you're both partly right, which is usually where the truth hides.
Yes, a huge chunk of people buy Bitcoin because number-go-up is the loudest drum in the parade. Most holders today are not running nodes, not reading BIPs, not checking coin control, and would probably think "self-custody" is some kind of gym discipline, the ETF crowd especially.
But that doesn't erase the protest angle. A protest does not require every participant to understand the philosophy. Most people using the internet don't understand TCP/IP either, yet the internet still changed who controls information. Same with Bitcoin: even when someone buys it through a broker for profit, the reason Bitcoin has any value to speculate on in the first place is because it offers an exit from a monetary system where the rules are constantly rewritten by people who suffer none of the consequences.
For someone in a relatively stable country, Bitcoin may look like a casino chip with better branding. For someone watching their local currency get cooked slowly in the inflation oven, it can look more like a lifeboat. Maybe not a perfect lifeboat, but still an exit.
So I wouldn't call Bitcoin just a protest, and I wouldn't call it just a meme investment either.
It is a weird beast: part savings technology, part speculation vehicle, part political statement, part liquidity sponge, part financial escape hatch. That ugly mixture is exactly why it survived this long. If it were only ideology, it would have died in a mailing list. If it were only gambling, it would have died with the first few thousand dead coins.
cold5tor4geSenior Member
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#5Oct 30, 2024, 05:09 PM
Your argument is both valide and contradictory in the same vein, that been said Bitcoin could be and hedge over traditional assets and even an hedge against government regulations and control of the traditional financial assets, but even that freedom in Bitcoin is gradually giving way to regulations since government is now beginning to be exposed to Bitcoin and even institutions while vas that there is a high inflow of money into Bitcoin through the ETFs and that, take us closer to government hold against individuals freedom through Bitcoin as it used to be.
I won't want to say resistance but a way out.
An opportunity to escape the control and dominance of the bank.
It was more of about the idea but now it's dominated by profit.
Even the government consider it a digital gold rather than money
And majority of people today buy into it.
Many don't care about decentralisation
Bitcoin success then was improved by the fresh failure of Banks
During the financial crisis.
Yeah, it is indeed arguable, but I think your statistics are somehow off when you say a high percentage of users adopt Bitcoin as an alternative to the failure of local currencies. Most people who are into Bitcoin are in it for profit.
People who are involved in institutional investment are due to the profit that can be seen in engaging with Bitcoin.
That is actually the purpose of Bitcoin, but people are more focused on how much profit they will get if they invest on Bitcoin. Besides the best motivation of every people is personal profit.
shard_minerSenior Member
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#8Oct 30, 2024, 11:04 PM
The intention of proposing a free economy where those who have their wealth in a commercial traditional bank see their money undervalued and have their wealth evaporated, may be different for an investor with an asset portfolio of Bitcoin who doesn't care because of their trust in decentralization and self custody of which Bitcoin offers despite the up and down movement of its price yet does not tend to zero, unlike local currency could.
Bitcoin is more like an insurance policy which replaces human wisdom with a more immutable protocol against the incompetent of financial institutions which often arises from human errors, closed door decisions, and corruption.
ROFL
Yep, Bitcoin replaces human wisdom alright!
This is the most accurate answer in my opinion too. Bitcoin has served all the people and their needs. Whether it was speculation, investment, resistance, freedom or some other thing that they were looking for, Bitcoin served them. I do not know if I could call it an 'ugly' mixture. It is a significant advantage.
It is not under my or your control whether others see Bitcoin as a speculative asset or not. And naturally, fewer people are going to look at Bitcoin for resistance or freedom compared to numbers we see of the people who want to simply pull more money out of it than what they initially paid. But if no people are using it for speculation, we the 'resistance' are going to remain and are easier to target and outlaw. If no people are using it as a resistance, when most of the speculators are out Bitcoin may simply die. It is fascinating.
There are many use cases of Bitcoin and these use cases are advantages, gifts to everyone who can use Bitcoin with the utilities they like and need from Bitcoin.
Real world use cases of Bitcoin.
Details of each of 7 use cases are written in the article and people are freely to choose and use Bitcoin if they need alternative to bank system as well as fiat currencies.
I agree with you, and I think this is just part of the pragmatic argument. There is a practical and reasonable argument where it acts as a silent strategy to control inflation and plays an effective role in price control. Although some people have come to know about Bitcoin through trading and most people only learn about its true importance and power after learning about Bitcoin for the second or third time and try to get out of such a system, which is why countries with free inflation and corruption never make Bitcoin easily BTC available to their people.
In this case, people have to take the initiative themselves, where social communities and such (bitcointalk) forums help to play an effective role.
People always try to box Bitcoin into a particular box, but it just wouldn't fit in a box. There is simply no way a currency like Bitcoin won't be valuable, and there is no way a currency would be valuable, and people would not speculate about it or hold it and wait for when they can make a profit from it. I don't understand the constant need to separate these features of Bitcoin. It is the fact that Bitcoin has the characteristics of almost every financial asset that makes it valuable. It is a store of value like gold, it is a speculative asset like stocks, it is a currency like fiat, and it is a commodity like gold. It has all these features, and it is still superior or almost superior to these assets.
ryanwizardSenior Member
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#14Nov 1, 2024, 05:12 PM
Bitcoin is already serving the alternative we needed to save everyone from the economy of inflation, now that we have option to choose between which one to engage, the choice is left on us on how we can take advantage of Bitcoin by learning it and knowing what to do, also, the world economy is fully dependent on a network like this to make everyone independent on their own when we are seeing so many economic collapse around the world as a result of inflation and other manipulations happening and people have been affected.
The main push of bitcoin is that people generally had lost trust in the government. You could wake up one morning and all your assets have been frozen. The adaption of cryptocurrency will increase drastically over time. The best is yet to come.
And another thing that bitcoin did was the full transparency of it's network. That alone gave people the ultimate belief in it. Even your government that claims to be transparent has a truck load of secret.
You know the most funny thing. It is how bitcoin is very volatile and yet people still trust it over their local currency. That alone says a lot about that currency. That's to tell you the deep mess your government has done to the currency to making it look worthless compared to a volatile digital currency like bitcoin.
Let's just imagine that the government fixes the local currency, do you think the adoption of cryptocurrency will reduce?
Over to you, audience.
In my opinion, the slogan - so-to-speak - of "separation of money and state" hits the nail on the head.
I love that angle and think it speaks volumes and volumes.
Either way, Bitcoin is definitely economic protest.
Power to the people.
Although that is what Bitcoin is meant to be, however of a protest it is, I would rather see it as a revolutionary battle for our own freedom from greedy corporations that control the corrupt law makers and "law enforcers". It is meant to be incorruptible and fully transparent but at the same time preserve the privacy of the individuals so that they cannot be targeted for whatever reason.
There's lack of confidence now in the fiat when inflation keeps on rising and money kept in the bank might not be able to withdrawn by the depositors.
So, it's true that it's a good alternative for the local money and as well as a revolution against the current system that we used to live with.
Another way to justify it is through the large financial institutions buying and holding more Bitcoin. Even themselves can't let it pass.
"Economic protest" is just part of the meme, not part of any sort of reality.
It's the same reason people buy MyPillow pillows, or "fair trade" coffee, or (more recently) Tesla cars: to show off their loyalty to a political cause.
But a MyPillow is just... a pillow. Fair Trade coffee tastes like every other coffee. And the Tesla CyberTruck is... not practical in any way. This is just people making a point with a purchase decision.
In the same way, you buy Bitcoin because you object to people other than yourself controlling large parts of the world's economic system. But like those paper straws that disintegrate after 45 seconds of use that you buy to save the whales or whatever, you aren't really doing anything. Buying Bitcoin isn't going actually change anything about the world's economic system. The world's economic system is controlled by nuclear weapons, not code.
I would not say they are showing a lack of confidence in fiat just because they are adopting BTC. They are seeing it as an alternative investment; in their investment basket, they just added another egg. I don't think they see BTC as a replacement of fiat, and that's why they have lost confidence in institutions that they are trusting BTC over them. Although due to inflation and financial crisis, we are losing confidence, we are still dependent on them and can't do anything else but use them.
Also, BTC can't be used mainly as a currency because of congestion issues on the network.
I agree that BTC has given everyone hope, because before BTC, owning a basket of investment was hard and not accessible for anyone under 18, but with BTC, all those restrictions are useless and everyone is free to use it as they want.