Blockstream's Bitcoin Satellite with OuterNet USB Receiver

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#1May 30, 2024, 11:54 PM
Just a heads up, there's a new version available for pre-order since 9/20/2020, and I've got some fresh links below. Apparently, the older model can still be used with some updates. Big shoutout to LAST OF THE V8's for bringing this to my attention in this thread. Honestly had no clue about it! This new piece of tech looks awesome! Here’s the info on both the Pro and Regular kits along with their prices: Blockstream Satellite Basic Kit: This is a consumer-friendly satellite receiver that lets you hook up a Bitcoin node at home. You just need a Linux computer, like a Raspberry Pi, to handle the broadcasts you get. Pre-sale price is $279, and the retail price is $299. Blockstream Satellite Pro Kit: This is professional rack-mountable gear that includes all the Basic Kit features but adds dual-satellite support for quicker, more reliable data transfers, plus multicasting to send Bitcoin data to several devices on the same network. Pre-sale price is $749, with a retail price of $799. Blockstream Satellite Flat Panel Antenna: This is a sleek flat-panel antenna with an integrated LNB, a modern take compared to the old satellite dishes. If you’re in the Asia-Pacific area, definitely check with support to see if it works for you before buying. Pre-sale is $179, and the retail price is $199. You can find more details on this announcement on Blockstream’s site. Also, there’s a review that goes over the setup and functionality of everything. Enjoy! Brad
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#2May 31, 2024, 12:35 AM
Saved for further tech links. Blockstream Satellite Service (Free!) https://blockstream.com/2017/08/15/announcing-blockstream-satellite.html OuterNet Discussion Forum. (Free!) https://forums.outernet.is OuterNet USB Satellite Reciever Kit ($125 Approximately) https://store.outernet.is
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gas42Full Member
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#3Jun 1, 2024, 09:33 PM
I would be interested in seeing how this works also.  Would be cool to see a tutorial on how to assemble and make this rig work. Thanks for the links.  I will have to check them out.
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#4Jun 1, 2024, 10:18 PM
I'm told that you will need a satellite dish and not just a small receiver like the one you pictured as the signal is quite weak. But if that works for you, great!
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#5Jun 1, 2024, 10:55 PM
Well supposedly this is for Satellite stuff. But then again you could be correct. I have a Link to the outernet forum in above posts. Someone could ask somebody with one to point it at the proper Satellite from the blockstream thread. Also in above posts If you do need a bigger dish they are common and used on eBay. I saw how to use the OuterNet via those instead. I still think this unit is likely to work on the USA Satellite in the above links with only the small Reciever plate.
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mr_altNewbie
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#6Jun 2, 2024, 02:30 AM
I have no knowledge about satellite technology, but my concern is, are those devices capable of transmitting data or for receiving only? Much better if its design in two way link.
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#7Jun 2, 2024, 05:48 AM
Recieve only. But for wallet use w/cell phone likely cheap and untraceable in a corrupt Country with cell phone prepaid. Comes to mind anyway.
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#8Jun 4, 2024, 03:09 PM
But what if you are in North Korea?  I was wondering if it would be possible to make the first transaction ever in Best Korea now that there are satellites broadcasting the blockchain. But you say these devices only receive data. If so then how do you broadcast your transaction back into the blockchain if internet is blocked on the entire country and there are no wifi signals or anything? Let alone the fact that there aren't even computers or cellphones. You would need a tourist to smuggle you a phone with wallet software installed, but even then, what do you exactly do with it? I wonder who will be the first to manage to broadcast a bitcoin transaction in North Korea, that would be epic.
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#9Jun 4, 2024, 04:40 PM
I think you could just use a DirectTV satellite dish. There are tons of those on buildings around where I live, and a lot of them probably aren't in use. It is currently receive only because transmitting to the satellite requires a lot of power and extra stuff that most people won't be able to get. The satellite is best for those who have a poor internet connection; they can't download the blockchain because it is too big, but they can still broadcast transactions as those are tiny. The satellite allows those people to also be able to get the blockchain (well part of it, only new blocks right now)
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#10Jun 5, 2024, 07:12 PM
Many people thinking this will never happen and it is all just hype. I must admit it is hard to believe such technology would come this early for Bitcoin. Heck, many countries do not even have widespread internet but they will be able to transact Bitcoin. haha
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#11Jun 8, 2024, 12:31 AM
Well, the outernet USB satellite receiver you see on the 1st post...I got that as a 100 buck toy a few months back and never played with it so such exists .... you supposedly can use this to download a bunch of stuff like facebook etc and cache it and update news weather etc good for an RV etc.... but again to put data back up to the internet you'd need a cell phone or cell phone hot spot or some such just saying..the unit is 'supposed' to suck stuff down in mass amounts to look at offline thus even if slow speed inet the other way....that only has to be thru a cell phone and fast enough to update your wallet and take your moving BTC about it is probably a big step forward ..where even older flip phones are still in use AS to the hype...it depends...if the bandwidth was 'donated' by Richard Branston (virgin) or some such (he is into satellites) this very well could be the real deal I guess I'm gonna have to get my act together and get on the outernet forum and get this thing up and try it (no time I have no frigging time) That is why I have one of these OuterNet units and it has sat on the shelf for 4 months plus too much work/projects/toys etc
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ryan_nodeSenior Member
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#12Jun 8, 2024, 01:47 AM
It's already happening. It was already working and happening when it was announced. It isn't just hype; there are instructions for how to set up your own stuff now since it is already broadcasting now. People have already set up receivers and are receiving blocks. The satellite is best for places where you have a low bandwidth and poor internet connection. That type of internet connection is too poor to support running a full node, but is fine for sending transactions as transactions are small. The satellite then allows you to receive blocks through something other than a poor internet connection.
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nick2018Newbie
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#13Jun 8, 2024, 06:33 AM
Well the next step then for true global reach is to develop a way to be able to send and receive data from the satellites with realistic gear. That would be a way to not depend on the internet at all. Some sort of device that allows you to do some basic transactions, ideally modular so you can smuggle parts in totalitarian countries like Best Korea. Imagine how cool it would be to be transacting inside that country, now that would be disruption.
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mr_altNewbie
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#14Jun 8, 2024, 08:54 AM
Since it is set up as a receiver only, can I use it to surf on any website on the internet or it is only used for blockchain or bitcoin transaction? Or can I use it to download but I cannot use it to upload data? Totally no idea here how the sattelite internet works.
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#15Jun 8, 2024, 02:23 PM
it is satellite feed download for all of the internet...I got this months ago...saw the blockstream satellite announcement and they said satellite USB reciever..which is what this is and said hey..I got that so, should probably after 5 months or so look at it people use this to at least watch CNN or weather or some such with their RV's etc ...download and look kinda thing.....if you have to get on  a website or have info back ...well they use the cell phone for that I guess anyway, was like 100 bucks when I got mine...so I assume it can be used for the purposes of this thread also
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#16Jun 8, 2024, 06:16 PM
So if I have an old satellite cable dish I could theoretically use it to receive blocks from the satellite? If yes, is there any tutorials you guys are aware of to set that up?
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#17Jun 8, 2024, 11:52 PM
Every body in 3rd world seems to have cell phone. Or community share. See Venezuela. They are a lot cheaper than here.
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#18Jun 9, 2024, 02:09 AM
You'd need the OuterNet devices in pic above in thread. Cost probably as much just to buy the OuterNet package and if the bigger dish is better use it. See their forum links in thread above, ask there.
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#19Jun 9, 2024, 04:18 AM
The README from the git repository should tell you pretty much everything you need to know: https://github.com/Blockstream/satellite
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#20Jun 9, 2024, 08:38 AM
Well has anyone set anything up yet to see if you can download this blockstream blockchain via satellite setup of any flavor? I should do such but have no frigging time as of late
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