Concerns About Privacy with eCash Airdrop for Bitcoin Wallets

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diamond21Member
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#1Aug 23, 2023, 12:10 PM
I want to highlight a big issue with the planned eCash airdrop for Bitcoin wallets. Bitcoin has always been about sovereignty, resistance to censorship, and built-in privacy. Any idea that might mess with these core principles definitely needs a close look from all of us. Here’s what’s bothering me: if the airdrop process ends up introducing tracking, leaking metadata, or fingerprinting wallets, it could unintentionally put OG holders at risk especially those who’ve been careful about their privacy for years. Even things like claiming methods, incentives for address reuse, or verification steps off-chain could lead to issues like figuring out locations or tying identities together. This sets a really worrying precedent: - Long-term holders might lose their anonymity - Wallets with a lot of value could become targets - Trust in Bitcoin’s privacy model could take a hit If these risks become real, we could face some serious fallout: - Users who care about privacy might shift to other chains - The ecosystem could become more fragmented - Bitcoin’s image as solid, neutral money could weaken I’m all for innovation, but we can’t compromise on privacy. Instead of just rushing into this, I think we should: 1. Ask for a clear technical explanation of how the airdrop will work 2. Make sure there are no tracking methods or metadata leaks involved 3. Look into opt-in models only, where users give clear consent 4. Push for independent checks from trusted privacy experts If we can’t meet these requirements, the community should really think about opposing the proposal.
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raven1337Hero Member
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#2Aug 23, 2023, 11:39 PM
The eCash proposal is just mental masturbation. They aren't going to "take" any Bitcoin from anybody, including Satoshi's. They are not going to force anything on anybody nor could they. eCash is just a startup memecoin that is basically using Bitcoin's chain to determine its airdrop allocation. Maybe clever marketing, but it would be no different than creating a coin and sending free airdrops to all of the people with beachfront property in California that they discover based on public ownership records. OG holders of Bitcoin have lived through thousands of attempts to get them to give up their coins, so I suspect they aren't going to fall for this one . (One weird thing that the eCash guys seem to be doing is giving people the impression they are "officially" endorsed by Bitcoin, which is fraudulent on the face of it. We'll see what the authorities think of that, or perhaps they will adjust their marketing to clarify).
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RogueByteFull Member
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#3Aug 24, 2023, 12:45 AM
Can somebody explain what's different between this eCash & any other alt that starts from the BTC chain like BSV?? Isn't it the same thing, how can it affect BTC hodlers?
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colddiamondHero Member
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#4Aug 24, 2023, 06:10 AM
It's just another fork. But it does not have relay protection at this point, and probably will not when it happens in August. There is no more danger then with any other fork. No real privacy concerns, you just have to be careful when or if you move the coins. But, in the end it's no different then BCH, BTG, BTK, BCD and all the other forks from 2017. Just 9 years later. -Dave
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QuantumYieldSenior Member
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#5Aug 24, 2023, 01:19 PM
How Many Bitcoin Forks Are There? You will be surprised!!! With many previous available forks from Bitcoin, they're altcoins and most of forked coins failed and died already. There are very limited forked coins have still survived so far but if looking at their promise at their project beginnings, it's hard to consider them as successful projects. When I read eCash, I recall that it is not a new Bitcoin fork, and check information with Wikipedia, it's a fork in 2020. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bitcoin_forks
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ben100Full Member
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#6Aug 26, 2023, 09:59 AM
Yeah, it’s basically just another fork like the old ones. Most people will probably ignore it and keep using normal BTC, even for things like bitcoin betting.
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colddiamondHero Member
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#7Aug 26, 2023, 04:13 PM
This is a different fork using the same name. Not sure why they went with that name but whatever. Either way, free money. That is if it's actually worth anything and tradable when the fork happens. -Dave
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QuantumYieldSenior Member
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#8Aug 26, 2023, 07:47 PM
I did not mind about Bitcoin forks so did not know about this "new eCash" but scammers actually never stop their scams. They're super lazy and pretty stupid, so don't hope that their forks can make fork investors rich. A guide from LoyceV for anyone who want to claim Bitcoin forks but I think it is risky especially with people who don't claim fork coins rightly, and it is not worth to try. LoyceV's Bitcoin Fork claiming guide (and service)
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humbleledgerLegendary
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#9Aug 26, 2023, 08:40 PM
This is the second time I hear about this Forkcoin. It looks like OP created an account just to promote it. There's no reason to give any attention for another shitfork without replay protection. It has no value, and only gets value if enough people fall for the hype they're trying to create. Don't forget why they do this: Forks are created to make the creator rich(er).
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colddiamondHero Member
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#10Aug 26, 2023, 09:30 PM
It's probably going to get more hype as it gets closer. All these forks are about making the people who create them more money. But as with most forks there will be some support. Enough for exchanges to list it? Who knows. Enough that if it is listed it will be worth the time & effort to dump it? Who knows. Screwing a bit with knots / 110 due to it happening at around the same time. Yes. So there is that positive. -Dave
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RogueByteFull Member
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#11Aug 26, 2023, 11:38 PM
But isn't it better if the fork has replay protection? Is replay protection (or lack thereof) any danger to BTC? The way I understand it is it's a problem only if you want to move these forks and it relays on the BTC chain too, because your BTC moves to an inaccessible address?
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colddiamondHero Member
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#12Aug 27, 2023, 03:35 AM
It's the people who make the fork chain who should be added replay protection. But, as others have pointed out all you have to do is get some BTC that was mined after the fork or eCash and send it to your address. Then move your BTC to a new address and verify that your eCash did not. Then move your eCash. It can be a bit of a pain the 1st time you do it. A lot of people made a bunch of mistakes back in 2017 and lost funds but if you pay attention it's not that bad. The other thing becomes time if you have 1 BTC and after the for 1 eCash is it worth the time & effort to move it if it's only worth $8? -Dave
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humbleledgerLegendary
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#13Aug 29, 2023, 01:58 PM
It's very convenient for scammers to steal Bitcoin from gullible greedy users: Back in 2017, some people lost their Bitcoin when they exposed their private keys to compromised Fork wallets. Trying to get peanuts, they lost it all.
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proto_pixelFull Member
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#14Aug 31, 2023, 03:59 AM
I remember about that incident where many people complained about losing their BTC for Connecting Their Wallets with a Website that airdropped Bitcoin holders because they were going to Fork, the phenomenon was called the "Bitcoin Fork Frenzy" and many Forks happened at that time. Some examples of cases that occurred when the appearance of the Bitcoin GOLD Fork was a fake ClaimBTCGPU site which left many Bitcoin owners trapped which was said to be a place to claim Bitcoin GOLD but in fact it was just a phishing website that would take over the user's connected wallet. Now you should be more vigilant and even if the fork is done officially there will be no guarantee whatsoever, let alone the fork wallet that has been hacked.
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LuckyCoinLegendary
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#15Aug 31, 2023, 10:29 AM
They can just avoid claiming it. Some people have enough bitcoins to secure generational wealth and are beyond airdrops.
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humbleledgerLegendary
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#16Aug 31, 2023, 04:22 PM
I keep reading "airdrop", but is it? Until now, I assumed it's a Fork. If it's an airdrop on every existing Bitcoin address, coming from a massive premine, that's even worse!
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p1x3l365Senior Member
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#17Aug 31, 2023, 08:10 PM
Phishing sites surely take your wallet private keys and sweep your bitcoins. While even with non phishing sites, before claiming fork coins, people have to move all bitcoins in their wallets first and this step is very important. This means they will only use a empty wallet with its private key for claiming any fork coins. The biggest fork is Bitcoin Cash used to make their website as Bitcoin (not as Bitcoin Cash). Has Bitcoin.com stopped presenting Bitcoin Cash as the real Bitcoin? To newcomers: make sure when you buy bitcoin you are buying bitcoin!
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proto_pixelFull Member
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#18Sep 2, 2023, 03:32 AM
That's a good move if they are aware and know that connecting to an unknown website will be dangerous for their Bitcoin assets. But sometimes people get too FOMO without thinking that their wallets are very vulnerable and there are still a lot of assets in their personal wallets. From some such incidents, I from the beginning created a wallet always separating the personal wallet for the assets I hold from the wallet that will be used for various connections with various platforms, it will be more secure and the main wallet will also not be exposed easily.
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