Could Bitcoin's Drop Be Linked to the Yen Carry Trade Unwind?

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whal32017Member
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#1Feb 13, 2022, 05:10 PM
Hey folks, I've been looking into the recent ups and downs in the market, and I can't shake the feeling that the drop we're seeing in Bitcoin might be tied to something bigger than just the usual crypto craziness. Is it possible this is connected to the unwinding of the yen carry trade? For those who aren't in the loop, the yen carry trade is when investors borrow in Japanese yen at super low rates, thanks to the Bank of Japan, and then invest that money into assets that give better returns, like US stocks, emerging markets, or even crypto. But lately, with Japan's huge fiscal stimulus (over 25 trillion yen just announced) and the BOJ not being super aggressive on rate hikes (still pretty much at around 0.5%), the yen has been strengthening in fits and starts. This situation is pushing investors to quickly unwind their positions, selling off riskier assets to pay back yen loans. We've seen similar scenarios play out in the past in August 2024, this led to major sell-offs worldwide, causing Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to take a nosedive as hedge funds liquidated their leveraged bets. Fast forward to now, and it's estimated that around $1.2 trillion in borrowed money could be involved. With the Fed hinting at fewer rate cuts (less than 200 bps easing), the dollar’s weakness might be adding to the pressure. Crypto, being considered a riskier asset, tends to get hit hard in these situations. A reduced appetite for risk usually means money flowing out of BTC and altcoins, which makes the pullback even worse. Of course, this is just speculation, and Bitcoin has its own factors influencing it, like ETF inflows or news about regulations. But the timing seems to match up with those spikes in yen appreciation and broader market drops (like S&P volatility reflecting crypto moves). What do you guys think?
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GigaCoinMember
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#2Feb 13, 2022, 08:58 PM
From my own recent research, I agree that the yen carry trade unwind can influence Bitcoin more than many traders assume. When funding positions in yen becomes expensive, large players often exit risk assets quickly, and crypto feels the impact first because of its liquidity and volatility. The timing of the yen spikes and BTC pullbacks does line up unusually well. At the same time, I don’t think the carry trade is the only driver. ETF flows, U.S. rate expectations, and general macro sentiment still shape most of Bitcoin’s short-term direction. The current slowdown across multiple markets suggests the reaction is broader than just yen pressure. Tracking USD/JPY correlation with BTC has shown mixed results on the daily timeframe but stronger reactions during extreme yen moves. Because of that, I’m not changing my long-term strategy, but I’m being more cautious with leverage whenever the yen strengthens sharply. Peace out ✌️
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w0lf404Hero Member
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#3Feb 14, 2022, 12:26 AM
The BTC-yen correlation is rarely found in any news or speculative discussions. I think events in the Japanese asset market only contributes ~2% to crypto volatility, and even then, it's event-driven, not a long-term trend. Your fundamentals list needs some updates. BTC now has a new macro drivers that 2024 didn't have, US spot ETFs are creating new structural demand that sometimes goes against macro trends.
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vault_alphaHero Member
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#4Feb 16, 2022, 11:37 AM
The answer is No! Yen and Bitcoin have a little to know corrections, and if there are brokers/exchanges pairing Bitcoin with Yen, as in the case of BTC/JPY, they are little, and even the trading volume will be so negligible to control this market this much. You see, as things are, I could only think of two most important factors, which are: 1. Bitcoin 4-cycle is in play (History repeating itself in Bitcoin tradition) and 2. A natural bearish sentiment (it's even overdue), and it is evident on the larger timeframes.
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