I haven't tried HTX, but if you’re using it and your account gets flagged, that's not a good sign. Especially if you’re transferring large amounts and then suddenly they freeze your funds. Not sure which 3rd party platform they’re mentioning, but for anyone whose funds are stuck and knows they haven’t done anything wrong, it raises the question of how they figure out if your account or wallet is risky.
This might just be the beginning of wallets and transactions getting flagged. The days of true decentralization seem to be fading. So, be cautious with centralized exchanges since your funds might get frozen by some external platform.
HTX claims wallet flags are leading to transfer issues on various platforms
19 replies 297 views
quantum_forkMember
Posts: 291 · Reputation: 48
#2Sep 30, 2022, 06:40 PM
UK sanctioned HTX because ties to Russia sanction evasion, OKX recently announced that they'd be freezing anyone who arbitraged back and forth between OKX and HTX to comply with UK sanction so have Binance, Bitget and many others.
If you have money in HTX you're basically screwed.
The problem is that it's being applied retroactively; it's unreasonable to freeze an account just because it was used on the platform several months ago. This sends an indirect message that only certain platforms should be used.
The importance of mixers will increase.
On the one hand, this is an extremely unpleasant situation for users who were actively trading on HTX, as they now have to figure out how to withdraw their funds from the exchange without any negative consequences. On the other hand, this situation proves once again that it is not worth trusting CEXs and storing funds there, since some can become outcasts at any moment, while others will hypocritically distance themselves from such outcast exchanges, wishing not to tarnish their business and to curry favor with the regulator. As far as I know, exchanges like Bybit and OKX are actively causing difficulties for their users because of this.
zero_shardFull Member
Posts: 105 · Reputation: 381
#5Oct 1, 2022, 06:14 AM
Freezing by centralized entities has been a classic problem in the industry, I'm not surprised by all of that. Users who use those centralized entities should have known the risks that awaited them & now they're getting them. BTW, I looked at their official X account, it seems everything is running smoothly without any issues there.
wolfone831Newbie
Posts: 333 · Reputation: 33
#6Oct 1, 2022, 07:30 AM
That's painful for those users who's got huge funds there and for sure that they'll start pulling out their funds from htx. When there's a tie to some punished or sanctioned partners, they'll really be a walking red flag from the authorities. I won't say that they're screwed if they can fix this right away. But the users won't be leaving their funds anymore there and as we used to say, never leave your funds in cexes.
I wouldn't say it's classic, but there are cases that we've seen them freezing the account for whatever reasons.
Yes, for sure we all know the risk, but I don't know if we really have a choice not to used them. I mean we have seen DEX in the last 5 years or so, and yet they are not being used by many crypto enthusiast because of liquidity.
And if you are a HTX users, you might have a painful experience.
degenhub573Member
Posts: 339 · Reputation: 40
#8Oct 2, 2022, 01:24 PM
I'm sure the 3rd party they are talking about are blockchain security analyst companies that flag any suspicious address and inform CEX to blacklist it to avoid breaking anti money laundering law.
There are many of them and usually they also offer smart contract security audit service. Certainly anything that is sanctioned by EU or US will be considered high risk profile.
zero_shardFull Member
Posts: 105 · Reputation: 381
#9Oct 2, 2022, 07:26 PM
The choice is always there, but are we strong enough not to use CEX where we have more options for investing & trading there? personally, I can't avoid using CEXs, I need them for many things, especially for latency-free trading, that's one of the things I can't get on DEX.
Luckily, I only have Binance on my main CEX list, as they're the largest & still have a better reputation than others. I also choose not to register with multiple CEXs for data security reasons.
Using a mixer or noKYC would be the solution; it's not complicated, but it does cost some fees. The real problem is that in the past, there was a belief that using a centralized platform meant a low AML score, which is no longer true.
block_vectorMember
Posts: 433 · Reputation: 52
#11Oct 3, 2022, 01:56 PM
All of exchange sites are now flagging Huobi hot wallet. If you have your money on Huobi, you will never to withdraw it to other exchange sites. The only possible to withdraw it by yourself in your hotwallet.
I'm seeing someone who got his account restricted by MEXC just after he was depositing his money from MEXC.
So i can only guess all of money frozen may be sent to the UK due to this sanction. Anyone who has money in HTX, be careful with your money.
Other than that i also guess this is the outcome from Justin's lawsuit against WLFI. If he was smart enough, he would never against the regulators.
nodedev476Member
Posts: 19 · Reputation: 40
#12Oct 5, 2022, 10:42 PM
It happens. AML analyses have already started to report a high risk score for coins that have a connection with HTX.
Coins that until a few days ago had a 30% AML score rating have now gone to 89%, with the reasoning that they interacted with scam (sanctioned HTX) addresses.
This crypto regulation is one of the stupidest ever enacted by any country.
Well you are screwed if it's flagged by that third party. But you can say same thing about Binance and Bitget and "many others". Because sites have now been complying even more with regulators, so we will see some increase of frozen accounts as well.
There are however other reasons i wouldn't put money in any of them. Places like OKX and HTX have horrible customer service. And user interface, or that customer service was not designed for people speaking English. I had to leave money in OKX and delete the account because it was impossible to talk with anyone in there who had enough technical expertise to fix my issues.
But why didn't the authorities freeze the hot wallet or suspend HTX outright? Funds tied to the exchange are essentially completely unusable until the risk assessment cools down.
degenhub573Member
Posts: 339 · Reputation: 40
#15Oct 6, 2022, 11:48 PM
I also wondered what would Tether and Circle do, there is risk of collateral damage where Tether and Circle could be freezing the exchange's money.
As of now, the HTX side is saying the Huobi Global S.A. which got sanctioned is separate entity from HTX, the UK government and the risk assessment company however don't buy that.
orbit_ledgerMember
Posts: 50 · Reputation: 91
#16Oct 7, 2022, 04:59 AM
Huobi has been around for over a decade, it's weird and I do not get they are getting flagged to be fair. But in any case, these are the type of problems that we need to get ready to face in the crypto world, it's normal.
I understand that it may not be easy to see these, but at the end of the day it's not going to be simple for people to face these kinds of things. Of course it is not the same thing as actually being flagged for something bad, because in this case you could at least appeal and show proof.
ravendev18Hero Member
Posts: 73 · Reputation: 4344
#17Oct 8, 2022, 09:04 PM
That jump is not random, because this is how those regulators flag those coins especially if they made a transaction on those sanctioned wallets.
If the platform got blacklisted just like what happen to HTX, any coin interact with them will also get a high risk ratings, but this one does not mean at all that all coins who made transaction with them is a scam. But its really unfortunate that those regulators what to shortcut everything then generalize for the sake of compliance matters. The problem here is the clean project has been included and been punish by those regulators by giving high risk ratings.
nodedev476Member
Posts: 19 · Reputation: 40
#18Oct 9, 2022, 02:09 AM
This screenshot is from a case where Binance blocked one user's funds (only from one transaction). He received coins as payment for an online service, maybe he doesn't even have an account on HTX.
It seems that all coins with HTX are red-marked, and this is a serious problem, considering the amount in their wallets.
quantum_forkMember
Posts: 291 · Reputation: 48
#19Oct 9, 2022, 03:26 AM
Exchanges apparently routing any account with HTX deposit through automatic compliance review, they will probably ask anyone who got HTX onchain history piece of their selfie photo and their ID.
So, even if anyone has used HTX, they still have a way to clear their account of suspicion and potentially unlock their funds.
They could have fined and sanctioned HTX out of existence or thrown Justin in jail. Making regular users pay the consequences for the actions of their owners, by blocking their funds, is very unethical.
Compliance regulations are barely effective at preventing money laundering and sanctions evasion. Most of the time it affects innocent people who arent doing anything wrong.
?Reply
Sign in to reply to this topic