Is 16% interest on USDC too good to believe?

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tomfarmMember
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#1Jan 3, 2023, 11:08 AM
So I just received this email from Wirex promising up to 16% interest on USDC if you deposit in their x accounts. Forget about what the service is like for a second, but is 16% interest a year even realistic for a stablecoin? How can they afford this when treasury yields aren't even close to that rate? I'm not looking to get tied up in any stablecoin right now, especially since I'm in Europe and have seen enough of the tether situation to steer clear. Plus, I still remember the Celsius mess. But seriously, how can they even make this work financially? It feels wild to think they could offer such high interest.
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im_novaFull Member
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#2Jan 3, 2023, 03:06 PM
That's a very good interest rate and it's not a scammy offer. I have never used Wirex but I have known about the existence of Nexo for a long time, which has been offering up to 12% APY on USDT fixed-term investment and as far as I know, people don't have negative experience with this service. Today, since Nexo offers up to 14% APY on USDC and 15% on EuroX investments, I'd choose Nexo over Wirex but that's my personal choice. Btw I suggest you have a deep look at the terms of investment because these offers come with some costs, for example, they might deduct your profit if you have invested for a fixed period of time and try to withdraw before that period expires. There is one rule in the crypto world. Not your keys - not your coins. Because of this rule, people will never suggest you put money anywhere, no matter how trustworthy the service is.
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coin_sigmaLegendary
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#3Jan 3, 2023, 09:25 PM
Such a big offer compared to some exchanges like Binance; they offer around 10% in USDC with some terms like the 7% is limited to 500USDC and the 3% if you deposit more than 500USDC for OKX; it also offers the same but is limited to 1000USDC for 180 days after than it would drop to 7% for bitget exchange  they offer 8% limited only for 100USDC for new accounts which is way lower than the other exchanges. Why not check the terms first because that offer is really high compared to exchanges? Take note of the limits of how much amount of USDC they only allow for 16% interest, and maybe they can only offer 100 USDC or limited days.
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quantumbearHero Member
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#4Jan 4, 2023, 12:29 AM
I have seen more than 16% on Bybit and Bitget. If the market is higher bullish, the APR of the stable coin like USDT and USDC will increase. But if the market cools a little, they will go back to 10%. The exchange can give you 16% APR offer but know that the APR is not constant but changing and they might reduce it soon.
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c0in23Full Member
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#5Jan 4, 2023, 09:00 PM
It’s legit.. you can check some of the rates here: https://bitcompare.net/platforms/wirex/lending-rates. While the rates are higher than the usual financial market standards, you have to understand that it’s crypto, so the risks are higher, and naturally, the returns are higher as well. Wirex has been around for a while and is regulated, which adds some confidence if you’re considering trying out their services. BTW, its " up to 16%", its the maximum they can offer, so it could be lower.
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ericnovaSenior Member
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#6Jan 4, 2023, 10:08 PM
This is why the cryptocurrency market is attractive, because here you can get a bigger profit than the one you can get from treasury bonds. The yield of 16% per annum does not surprise me, the main thing is that it should be a proven protocol. Gate Cryptocurrency Exchange Offers 45% per annum for USDe staking - https://www.gate.io/ru/announcements/article/40715
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its_foxSenior Member
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#7Jan 5, 2023, 12:46 AM
Well better to be safe than sorry since you are living in Europe with has restriction on tether, might be bad for other stablecoin as they could be targeted with this mayhem. But 16% is good considering theres no lock period or shorter lock terms. I like doing that, but in defi theres a good APY only if you trust the project.
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fullnodeSenior Member
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#8Jan 5, 2023, 02:08 AM
It is not 16% fixed interest, but rather, up to 16% variable interest. During the recent bull run, interest rates on lending platforms like Aave have gone into the double digits. Currently, USDC has 12% interest if you lend it on Aave. On Wirex’s website they state that interest is coming from DeFi platforms. You could earn this interest without having to give control of your funds to a centralized custodian, but this offering is probably targeting users who don’t have much experience with DeFi and don’t want to deal with the risks and complexity themselves.
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john.gweiFull Member
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#9Jan 5, 2023, 10:01 PM
For me, leaving your funds in a centralized exchange for such a timeframe is almost equivalent to the risk and complexities a user could face having to deal with DeFi. DeFi isn't a rocket science that anyone can't abreast himself with if they give it their time, but it seems there are persons who will prefer leaving their funds in the hands of a third party by waiting for agreed time to get some interest. Trouble is, these CEX can't be trusted as they could get behind and change the ToS of the service if on the process they observe that there's nothing there for them as it should be. I think I'll love to want to stick with the famous statement "not your keys not your coins".
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vault_alphaHero Member
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#10Jan 6, 2023, 02:03 AM
This may be strange to you but Wirex is not the only actor in such a manner now, I am sure that Bybit, Bitget and many other big names offer even more than 16% per annum on USDC and USDE, but that of the USDT could be lower, yet, I've seen Bybit advertising as much as 34% on the USDT in December. This is not what I just read/heard, I've also participated in that of the USDC and USDT, so the packkage could be real, but you have to first trust Wirex. I think companies now have affiliations with stablecoins.
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0xR4v3nSenior Member
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#11Jan 6, 2023, 03:12 AM
Check the full terms, all the big exchanges do this promo. But it's actually only averaged to 16% PA. They probably only give you something like 2 weeks or 1 month. So in actuality you're getting something like 1+% for the promo month. It's still good but it's kinda pointless. Even if you had $1000, its extra 11 dollars for the month.
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tomfarmMember
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#12Jan 8, 2023, 11:53 AM
I understand that, but my question was more from the perspective of the borrower, so why would they borrow money from you at those rates when they could simply get them cheaper from normal lending, or are they unable to get that much funds which is a bit concerning, if they don't have the assets for a normal liquidity line with a bank. Woundn't that mean they are basically gambling with your money like Celsius did based on market trends?
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fox_2021Senior Member
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#13Jan 8, 2023, 05:19 PM
An apple in the pocket is a better deal than 2 apples on the tree. If the deal is too good to be true, it probably is. How much do you know wirex? How much do you trust them? They are paying these high amounts, because nobody trusts them probably. Why don’t you go ti binance like everybody else? The rate is 10% there. At least if they go down they will take half of the world with them. Wirex is small potatoes compared to binance. If wirex goes down, nobody will care.
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yi3ld51Full Member
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#14Jan 8, 2023, 09:13 PM
Moreover, you can see that APY offerings on DEX can be more than 20% for stablecoins so it wouldn't be surprising if some exchanges offer higher APYs as they may adjust when the market is rising or falling. But I haven't risked a stablecoin in 1 year to chase the APY offered.
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boss_wizardSenior Member
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#15Jan 8, 2023, 10:40 PM
need to recheck the email first, but I think there are occasional offering of high interest staking in various exchange, usually for new members. it's part of their promo and i'm pretty sure the APR is the exchange subsidy. though honestly i find the email you receive pretty fishy. however, if we're talking about high APR stablecoin staking, there are also defi where they allow you to loop your asset to morpho or aave to leverage it, you get boosted APR with the risk of liquidation if the stable depeg, I think this one make more sense because risk equal to benefit. regardless, always learn the ins and outs of the staking program first before doing it, just in case, so you won't get trapped.
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fox_byteHero Member
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#16Jan 9, 2023, 04:07 AM
according to ---> https://bitcompare.net/platforms/wirex/lending-rates It is Up to 14% APY for bitcoin and not fixed 14% and is often subject to certain conditions that 90% of investors fail to meet, such as a min deposit limit, for example, depositing more than $10k/50k, strict KYC/AML or other conditions. These companies can meet obligations in a bull market, but it is rare for this to happen in a crypto winter, so stay away from them.
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bear2021Full Member
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#17Jan 10, 2023, 07:11 AM
That’s normal I guess. high rates usually come with higher risks. In banks, for example, time deposits offer less than 10% because they’re very safe and insured. While the high returns might seem tempting, make sure to read all the terms, DYOR, and assess if you’re okay with the potential risks before jumping in. So If you are to invest a decent amount of money, remember that we’re dealing with crypto, which is already considered a high-risk market. That’s why you need to understand what you’re getting into. Also, interest rates vary depending on the coin. The higher the interest rate, the higher the risk, that should come together.
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fox_byteHero Member
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#18Jan 10, 2023, 09:12 AM
the promise of getting Up to 14% APY in Bitcoin seems more tempting but as I said you should not trust these services. A quick review of their reviews shows that many complain about hidden fees and slow response from the support team.
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basedchainFull Member
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#19Jan 10, 2023, 10:48 AM
They can probably offer that rate because they earn from their service charges, plus they have a large market based on what’s mentioned here. https://www.fxempire.com/crypto/exchange/wirex/review
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miner2011Senior Member
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#20Jan 10, 2023, 04:52 PM
Just don't forget that when you put money on any exchange site platform it is not your key, not your coins. Therefore, you should know how can afford to lose, it is important as a trader or investor. Then that 16% is already a lot but I'm not saying that it is scammy. besides that, I'm not that familiar with what you're saying, but if you did some research on it, it would be better and if you found it to be good, it's up to you if you continue.
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