Is anyone able to outperform the crypto market?

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leo2011Full Member
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#1May 31, 2017, 09:01 PM
Ever sold too early and then watched the market soar? Like grabbing a coin at $0.5, then seeing it shoot up to $2 later on. Or kicking yourself for not selling when things took a nosedive? Like buying a coin at $5, only to see it drop to $0.8. Crypto can really throw these curveballs at you. So, when's the right time to sell then? The market’s super volatile. Even with some technical analysis, figuring out whether to sell or hold is still tricky. Your decision to offload your crypto often hinges on a few factors: What kind of coin you're holding matters big time. You can’t really pit a Bitcoin holder against someone with altcoins. Sticking with altcoins for too long can lead to losses compared to Bitcoin. If you’re holding altcoins, using dollar-cost averaging to sell at a decent profit is smart; but for Bitcoin, a long-term hold often pays off well. Then there’s your trading style. How you trade can dictate your selling strategy. Scalpers are in and out quickly, while day traders have a different rhythm. Someone who holds for longer will approach selling differently compared to a day trader. And don’t forget about urgent situations! Sometimes you just need to sell, especially when news drops that could shake up a coin you’re holding, especially with altcoins. Quick action can help you avoid losses. To wrap it up, managing fear and steering clear of greed and FOMO is essential to staying regret-free in this space. No matter how things play out after selling your coin, make sure you find peace with your decisions.
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pl4nkt0nFull Member
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#2May 31, 2017, 09:43 PM
You can’t beat the market you can only flow with . First it actually boils down to the type of trader you are , because as an investor (holder) you don’t have to worry yourself with such , especially when you are into bitcoin what you should be doing is accumulating for longterm goal. But base on your post seems more like a scalper , those who trader  for short period of time to make some profit off the market wave . Folk that don’t hold their trade up to an hour I think the highest a scalper can go in a particular trade is an hour . The truth is that you just have to be careful especially when dealing with shit and altcoins . Just like you said their risk is quite higher than that of bitcoin . So you have be well skill before involving yourself in it .
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leo2011Full Member
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#3Jun 1, 2017, 12:31 AM
Although I do the two but I do more of hodling with BTC. It's always advisable for a newbie to go for Bitcoin and hold to their wallet. I have made the post to touch most aspect of traders from scalper that sell within hours to long term hodlers. In whatever ways, one should just acknowledge that no one can beat the crypto market.
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#4Jun 1, 2017, 06:07 AM
I never heard anyone beat the market but I do know that many people are going with the flow of market rather than beating it. I don't understand why anyone wants to beat market when we know that it is impossible to beat the market. Anyway, I do have something like that where I sold my coin at a certain time and when I check the price of the coin at later on is that it increase by 2-5x from the price before so if I did save my coin that time then I would have more profit than before.
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p1x3l365Senior Member
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#5Jun 3, 2017, 02:51 PM
You'll just eat your fingers off because you may not be able to win at the toppest unless it is by luck. So you should always be grateful whenever even you win at the low, you should be grateful because volatilities can be unpredictable that traders who trade greedily looses more than their wins. So anyone regretting why they sold too quick that gave them a certain profits instead of bigger wins. You can also loose it all when you don't sell at the right time.
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mr_lynxFull Member
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#6Jun 3, 2017, 05:33 PM
How can someone who is holding shitcoins compare his or herself to someone who is holding Bitcoin, Bitcoin that is a store of value with potential return, and a big Edge against inflation. And for me anyone who is not accumulating Bitcoin and hold for a long term is really missing out. So for those who have not get started with bitcoin should better make haste and start accumulating using the DCA method and hold for. And  anyone who is holding shitcoins is just gambling in this crypto space, because majority of those shitcoins you see out there has nothing to offer to her investors, and numerous of them are created by scammers, and anyone who fall prey to them will be scammed. So to safe yourself this stress just focus on the ongoing buying of Bitcoin and hold peaceful for long term.
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paulyieldSenior Member
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#7Jun 3, 2017, 08:35 PM
You can easily beat the market by buying at the right time and hold all the way. Trading is just speculation even with the discipline you elaborated there is a good chance you gonna lose. The money you earned as a profit from trading can go back to the market anytime when you're making mistakes. Take example of james wynn, etc. A trader that got liquidated even andrew tate. on the other hand I've seen handful of bitcoin holders becoming whales and getting millions or even more in USD as an ROI just by simply letting the bitcoin sit.
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leo2011Full Member
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#8Jun 4, 2017, 02:47 AM
You never understand what I meant by "beat the market". Are you telling me that this people often buy from the lowest low and sell with the highest high? It is easy to make good profit hodling BTC if you do the right thing. Even a newbie with little knowledge in the space can make profit from BTC if he can learn to hodl for a long time and also avoid FUD and FOMO. Even when this profit are made, it doesn't mean they can beat the market.
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LoneRocketSenior Member
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#9Jun 4, 2017, 07:09 AM
The market cannot be accurately predicted, even by the most skilled technical analysts and the most advanced analytical tools. This is the conclusion I've drawn from my trading experience. The market is highly volatile and depends on numerous factors and variables that can sometimes be rapid and unexpected, overturning all expectations and analyses. Therefore, to minimize risk, the best strategy is to hold Bitcoin using the DCA for the long term. This way, you'll consistently profit and never lose. Traders who seeking quick profits, however, are mostly losers.
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tony69Senior Member
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#10Jun 4, 2017, 08:11 AM
To have a summary at what you just explained here, at first at trader or investor must know the season they are into before venturing the market, at first if the market is at bullrun then it is not advisable to make any investment because one could be trapped at the high price just as those who ventured the market when the price was nearly around $126k with the mindset that the market would break out to $130k, but instead of breaking out a sharp declined hit the market where it went very low to the price we are now. Then lastly, Venturing the market at the dip, just as the price is now is the best but then; the investor must apply DCA methods, where they would keep buying gradually as the market keeps dumping gradually without buy are once because they market could still dump more where they would still keep regretting more. But in generally, investment at the bear run is always better because then you would have to wait for the market to recover and when it is time for bull run you could make double of what you had already invested on the market.
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node_walletSenior Member
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#11Jun 4, 2017, 10:46 AM
You can only beat the market if you control it and only whales can do that on a very short time, aside from that small opening we all go with the flow, whichever direction the market swings we try to make the most of it. The market is not in competition with itself it is we the investors and traders that are in competition with ourselves, everybody wants the perfect buy and sell opportunities to make profit from the market. The crypto market is very volatile so we should always tread with caution by using amounts that we are comfortable to loose to enter.
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r3al_b3arMember
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#12Jun 6, 2017, 04:27 PM
You might be referring to Bitcoin there but that is only fine for the case of Bitcoin because the coin is built to last a lifetime. And if we are also a long-term investor, we can just continue holding as usual. We can even enjoy the dip to be able to buy more. I would say that the move we did last time, was only part of our DCA strategy. For some, they can sell some in case $130k did truly occur. If not about BTC, this is risky because like you said earlier, we can also get trapped here. But since we are convinced that it is now a dip, buying more at once can be fine, and there is also no guarantees that the dip can continue. I believe DCA is about being stressed free or flexible, and not really because there is a chance for a good buy.
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john2009Full Member
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#13Jun 6, 2017, 06:28 PM
To beat the crypto market means to buy low and the price doesn't drop but instead it increased to a level that you feel it's enough for you to sell and take profits. This is the behavior of a trader and we can't say they have beat the crypto market because in their next trading, they might buy and the price starts dropping immediately. However, buy bitcoin and hodl it for the long term then you can actually beat the crypto market because even if you buy and the price falls, no matter how long it takes it will still recover back and you still make your profits. The reason why many people can't be the crypto market is as a result of impatience and investing in wrong coins that has high volatility.
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benledgerSenior Member
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#14Jun 7, 2017, 12:45 AM
Maybe in my early Bitcoin years but over time came to realise that there are always opportunities when the market pulls back after rising high. Rarely - but if I did in the past it was a brief regret, by HODL'ing you dont lose in the long run. Bitcoin and a very small amount of Litecoin in some collectibles. Many years ago I liquidated my $hitcoins into Bitcoin and never looked back with regret. I dont trade I HODL I'm glad I dont have to be stressed and worried about such a scenario.
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the_kingHero Member
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#15Jun 9, 2017, 11:36 AM
Once, it happened in 2017, yes I understand that because I was also new to the crypto market, from that experience I realized that we have to understand properly about speculation, predicting market direction when and before the halving occurs, Gradually from the experience I have had in the crypto market, of course I understand how I have to be able to beat the Crypto market, don't let the crypto market always beat us. But now I understand how to beat the crypto market, the point is don't be in a hurry and be careless in selling assets, study the crypto market carefully to avoid any losses you suffer.
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bear2021Full Member
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#16Jun 10, 2017, 11:49 AM
Yes I have found myself in circumstances like this before that was at the first time when I started my crypto journey. At that time was buying more of altcoins and selling off after seeing little profits. It didn't happen to once or twice it happened few times. I will say this drama is more with altcoins than bitcoin. It's not even advisable to hold altcoins, avoid altcoins and channel all your attention to bitcoin if you are aiming a long term hold. Left to me alone, bitcoin is the only coin that's worth holding.
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s4t420Member
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#17Jun 11, 2017, 10:19 PM
Before buying an asset, it's best to determine how much profits you would be expecting and set your target. Do not procrastinate or let greed into the plan. This is the reason why it is best to make proper research before investing in any project to develop confidence even during the dips to hold on. The crypto market can be very volatile so should be taken with caution, set target, set stop loss to minimize the risk and click "out" when in profits. Contentment is a tool that most traders should acquire. With this, even with the slightest profits, one could be okay to get out of the market even if there is a pump after that but still be contented with the little profits. It's a virtue that many traders lack and this has made many make profits, and lose everything while holding and expecting to make more profits.
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CyberAlphaFull Member
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#18Jun 13, 2017, 07:32 AM
I think the expression “beat the market” is not appropriate in trading – unless the trader is gambling with the market. Taking advantage of price volatility is a more accurate expression in my opinion - that's how a trader makes a profit. Price volatility can always be exploited by those seeking quick profits - but traders certainly don't always profit all the time. What needs to be underlined is - trading and investing are different, especially in their goals.
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viper_satMember
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#19Jun 13, 2017, 08:31 AM
Bitcoin is the market. Don’t try to time the markets. Spend time in the market. Hence dca btc and you’ll have no problems of getting beaten by it. By dca’ing, you literally get the average price of a duration. Say you dca’ed btc every week for a year, you’ll get the weekly price avg of btc for one year. It can’t get better than this. You become the market if you follow that strategy. It is the most widely known accumulation strategy and yet only a handful of people follow it with full discipline. Somehow trading alts or gambling with futures/leverage look more attractive to people. I can understand their reasoning though. They don’t want to wait 4-5 years to make 100% on their dollars. They want x100 and they want it instantly and that’s why they lose.
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raven_sigmaFull Member
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#20Jun 14, 2017, 12:34 AM
The most important thing is to know when to enter market and also know when to invest, sometimes our problems for investment start from us, they're traders who don't verify properly before venturing into trading, let me tell us, trading intelligence, why investment requires environmental observation, you can invest and forget about it for some years, why someone who is trading needs proper time to study and evaluate before it will resume trading, but people who doesn't trade without precautions are the one always lose in trading.
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