is dca still the best approach for accumulating bitcoin?

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calmsatMember
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#1Mar 28, 2017, 12:29 AM
I really like checking out the speculation section here, especially when it comes to different bitcoin accumulation methods and seeing who jumps on buying opportunities in the wall observer. Everyone has their own way of stacking sats, but I feel like the go-to method for most folks is DCA, or dollar cost averaging. Most of you probably already know about this strategy, but just to recap, it’s all about buying fixed amounts of bitcoin at regular intervals, whether it’s daily, weekly, or monthly. It really depends on your financial situation and what works for you. Now, while DCA is often seen as one of the best ways to invest specifically in bitcoin, I want to share some thoughts on why it might not be the best method anymore. I use DCA myself, but I'm just hoping to spark some discussion and share ideas. Over the years, especially leading up to the 2021-2022 bull run, bitcoin's price action was pretty favorable for DCA investors. The price generally had a downward trend over time but spiked during those bull runs that lasted for months. This allowed people to scoop up a lot of bitcoin for cheap and cash in on huge gains when the time was right. You could say it was a situation of long-term low prices and short-term high prices. However, what we’re seeing now seems to be flipping that script. Just take a look at the last three years.
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chris365Full Member
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#2Mar 28, 2017, 02:14 AM
You have brought a very good point here that makes sense for investors to look into when using DCA strategy. For those that are good at the technical viewpoint of the market, you can actually see a point where market will tend to react. You’ll know the major lows that the market may not break so soon making the price to always bounce back at that point. So as a very good analyst, you can make better good use of DCA strategy than just a random person in the market looking to invest in bitcoin using that same method of DCA. These are what spot traders use to make money quickly from the market, they buy at a low price and then take profit when the market reacts and push back up from that point. This trend is generally unpredictable sometimes but bitcoin obeys major points in the market.
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alexaltFull Member
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#3Mar 28, 2017, 08:38 AM
A bitcoin investor who wants to buy bitcoin consistently and persistently to build his bitcoin portfolio overtime will definitely make use of DCA since that is the most effective and efficient method to stack up your portfolio bit by bit. If you're bothered about missing the dip, you should set up a reserve funds to buy whenever, the price dips. It's a waste of time to start looking for dips when it's impossible to predict the next market movement. Moreover, you sound more like a trader and not a long term investor.
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p1x3l365Senior Member
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#4Mar 28, 2017, 12:40 PM
I disagree with your thread title. Dcaing will keep remain the best strategy in accumulating bitcoin because you don't have to wait in the dip before you can buy bitcoin. You also can't keep holding your budgeted investment funds in the bank all because you're aiming to buy the dip when you know the fiats looses values overtime due to inflations. You also can't tell what the bottom of the market would be so you can't keep targeting to buy the bottom rather, when you've a large amount of dictionary incomes, you can continue to Dca while have a portion of it to buy the dip. You also need to note that buying the bottom is by opportunity because you'll think the price has reached a lowest trade but would go dipper. So Dca remains the best for investors to accumulate bitcoin.
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hodler2019Legendary
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#5Mar 28, 2017, 02:19 PM
just do both dca and buy the dip. set a ladder down buy on the exchange of your choice. and do a dca via mining or some exchange.
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hodler_gweiFull Member
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#6Mar 28, 2017, 06:50 PM
I consider the DCA strategy to be the best way to build a long-term portfolio. This strategy helped me build my previous savings habit, which I implemented by consistently investing at a set time each month without thinking or even caring about the purchase price. And I think predicting when Bitcoin's price will hit its lowest point to buy it is nearly impossible to do consistently, because Bitcoin's price is unpredictable and everyone has their own way of implementing the DCA strategy, rather than buying regularly.
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gw31_2021Full Member
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#7Mar 28, 2017, 08:15 PM
If you are using the DCA strategy, you can still buy at the bottom because DCA strategy doesn't mean that you are going to be buying with all your budget at once, since you can set a target to buy weekly or monthly, you will definitely buy at different lows and different highs. To chase the bottom could be overwhelming but when you keep your dca strategy  straight, you will catch every bottom.  If you set your budget to buy monthly, you can use your waiting time before your next buy date to look at the market and make analysis of what the market is likely to be before you buy. Someone that started DCA last month might have bought at a high price but because they are using the dca strategy monthly, they also catch the bottom of this month.
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bit_2016Senior Member
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#8Mar 29, 2017, 01:08 AM
You've said it that none of us can exactly know if it's the actual bottom and I think that DCA is still the best strategy for us to do it at those times. When you're unsure if that's the bottom, DCA is still applicable there and you'll just have to casually buy whenever you can at that potential bottom you've decided to buy. And if it gets more crashes, you'll just reapply it. With that, you're able to spot the bottom and you've just done the same technique without hassle.
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benledgerSenior Member
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#9Mar 29, 2017, 02:37 AM
Yup thats pretty much the way to go and the least 'hassle' I am a regular buyer and I dont have time to watch and analyise the charts. The way I see it is that in the future (3+ years) anything I buy now will be in profit. I know its now a very 'efficient' way and I am not getting the most out of my strategy and its not ideal for the short term. If you can be regimental with your buying and hitting the bottom of the dips the OP's analysis and strategy will help.
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tom_ninjaFull Member
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#10Mar 29, 2017, 07:34 AM
User do DCA to avoid hassle and inconvenience to determine the bottom when price dip. The price chart of Bitcoin in long term is still parabolic which means doing DCA at any price point will still result to profit if you will sell at the top. Your assumption is accurate if user knew at what price will be the bottom since that’s the only time you can possibly accumulate at every low price. BTC price is unpredictable and DCA strategy was introduced to let investors not confused when to buy Bitcoin.
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bull_2019Senior Member
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#11Mar 29, 2017, 08:41 AM
Well it’s still almost same thing.. During a dip you can use DCA as buying the Dip, it covers the Dip either setting aside some specific amount for that or not.. The major problem is you can buy the Dip with same amount you set aside and let says you are left with little to nothing for your next DCA but the Dip keeps getting longer.. to the extent u already use up most to buy early DIP and now DCA needs to pause as well.. what I usually do is to continue DCA, if I  have extra I use it for getting the DIP else my DCA covers the DIP
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tony69Senior Member
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#12Mar 29, 2017, 10:22 AM
Op is trying to twist up the whole thing but as I assumed the very best time to dca is during the bear market because they would know when it will dump entirely on them, but however, the above mentioned method are more secure to face with the bear run. When they apply DCA, it would help reduces how much they lose before and as they keep doubling it will for sure increase their portfolio, and when the market rises back across the previous ATH you will see them on profits.
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d3fi404Full Member
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#13Mar 30, 2017, 09:56 PM
Exactly. You don't have to confuse new investors not to do DCA and stick buying in dips. Both are good opportunities to gain massive amount of bitcoin in the future, so why not adopt them both. If you can buy in dips successfully, then there's no reason that you can't perform DCA, as long as you have sustainable funds to finance your investment, then having both is a very wise idea. You can execute DCA both when the market is bullish or bearish, but when it come comes to buying in dips, make sure that you monitor the market and bitcoin price most often so that you won't miss the dips and regret later.
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coin_sigmaLegendary
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#14Apr 1, 2017, 01:44 AM
We also have an awesome thread recently about the current price, and the lower the price goes, the less risk we get when we are doing DCA to every price drop. Because, like I said before, no one can see the bottom price. That's why if you want to spot those bottom prices, then buy on every dip with the DCA method. In the long-term view, as you can see on the chart, those who do DCA are those people who make much profit. Like the recent price drop at $81k, if you spotted this area, buying some in that zone will already make you a positive profit, and there is no stress that people who buy bear the ATH, which is very stressful, and you should not handle that emotion for long until the next cycle, which is not my forte. DCA in a bearish season is far from so stressful because you are targeting more at a much cheaper price to hold for the long term until the next cycle.
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raven1337Hero Member
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#15Apr 1, 2017, 07:39 AM
The key point of DCA is buy and forget it. You buy it, you trust it as your long term hold without even caring wether it's moving up or down. However, it's good when someone aware to allocate some of their money to buy the dip, but it's not all of people are aware of it. If they have more money to spent, then can use it to buy dip. If they have no more money, just let them to DCA it regularly in their convenient price.
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degen_nonceFull Member
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#16Apr 1, 2017, 01:26 PM
DCA is like way of tipping your coin gradually like or bit by bit without speeding up your accumulation process and whenever there is more funds you keep tipping or topping up your balance without being so much in a hurry to buy at once to make it larger, now that the market has started regaining itself you could see that those who already engaged themselves through DCA has already made double profits using through their gradual tipping and even though the market decided to rise above this level you wouldn't lose anything as you have been topping it gradually.
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gw3i1337Full Member
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#17Apr 1, 2017, 03:10 PM
I think it may not apply to everyone. Many invest part of their monthly income and many invest with their savings. Now for those who have enough savings, it's not bad to keep some money to buy a dip. But for those who invest from monthly income, it can be difficult to keep money to buy dip, so it would be better for them to do DCA regularly. And no one can say how low the price of Bitcoin goes. So it might be better to continue investing in the DCA method to buy at an average price.
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boss_wizardSenior Member
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#18Apr 1, 2017, 06:13 PM
I take it as a solid advice, moving from just normal DCA without chasing bottom to chasing bottom sounds ideal. Setting aside big chunk of money to buy the dip because the dip will definitely come. My only concern is if we gonna miss some rally or not because it's the disadvantage of chasing bottom. If market goes up before we bought the dip, we're getting left behind. Maybe 40% for normal DCA and 60% to chase the bottom is the most ideal way like as you said.
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sage51Member
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#19Apr 1, 2017, 07:10 PM
yes it won't be a bad idea to set aside some percentage of our discretionary income for buying the dip and then use the remaining percentage for our DCA strategy.waiting for bitcoin to dip ,may lead to missing out in opportunity that the market may offer and there are people that may be waiting for a desire dip which didn't occur and they miss out in utilising the opportunity that the present during the current dip because they were waiting for the price to dip to there desire level.
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paulyieldSenior Member
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#20Apr 1, 2017, 07:42 PM
This gonna be difficult, some people out there setting aside their monthly money and they're busy enough with their job that they can only do periodical accumulation through DCA. I myself treated my BTC as a saving and even at the ATH i only took partial profit. Honestly I still believe that for the long term bitcoin gonna go up. The money supply won't lie that limited asset like bitcoin is gonna go up over the course of the years.
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