I've been thinking about this a lot lately.
Bitcoin's price has skyrocketed compared to what it used to be back in its early days. Nowadays people are spending thousands to buy Bitcoin, but is it really worth it in the long run, or are we just setting ourselves up for a major crash? It’s that classic fear of buying at the top and then kicking ourselves if the value just tanks.
Remember when BTC first launched (like from 2009 to 2013)? Each coin was practically nothing, worth just a few bucks or even less. Early adopters got tons for dirt cheap. Now we’re looking at prices around $68,000 to $70,000 per coin as of mid-February 2026. So, if you throw down a few grand today, you’re only getting a tiny fraction of a coin, like 0.1 BTC or maybe even less.
I’m curious if those investing big bucks today are gonna see a nice return or if the whole thing is just gonna crash and burn, leaving them with nothing.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Is it still a good time to buy Bitcoin or have we missed the boat?
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tom.satoshiFull Member
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#2Nov 19, 2017, 10:49 AM
There is no relationship between title & content of the thread. In the title you question about control of BTC ownership, while in the content of the thread you discuss about BTC monetary. I will just answer based on your title, you will have control over your BTC as long as you keep it yourself (self-custody), when you keep your BTC on centralized exchange, you don't own your BTC, they (centralized exchange) owns it.
Bitcoin in past years especially in very earliest years like 2009 to 2013, was not actually cheap.
Do you know why?
It's because in years like 2009 - 2013 especially in 2009 and 2010, Bitcoin was a very young project and blockchain with little adoption as well as super high risk to be failed, died. It's never cheap when spending your money to something that has high risk of failure, death days or months later. It was exactly Bitcoin in 2009 and 2010 years, or if you want it's similar til 2013.
Bitcoin price is always high and even very expensive with people who only look at today price, have short term mindset while don't understand about Bitcoin, don't know about its potential and don't believe in Bitcoin bullish future.
With price about $70,000, compares to price around all time high $126,000, it's a very great discount price, it's cheap for intelligent Bitcoin investors.
Anyone see this chart and says Bitcoin is going to crash?
https://www.coinglass.com/de/pro/i/yearly-candlestick-chart
ryan_vaultFull Member
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#4Nov 19, 2017, 03:22 PM
As far as I am concerned, and based on the topic of your thread, we have sole control over our Bitcoin because we have the keys in our very own possession, except otherwise in the case of a hack or scam. However, just like what Rashlyowl has said, you have full custody of your bitcoin when you put it in a self-custodial wallet where only you can access it, but when you put it in a centralised exchange, that is when you are not fully in control of your assets because you do not have access to the private keys and anything can happen at anytime.
It is in this situation that you can say that you do not have control over your bitcoin.
Your topic and the content of the discussion are not in line. Maybe you should look into it and do the needful because it could be tagged as misleading.
This has nothing to do with control.
You control your bitcoin, but you cant control its price.
Actually, you cant control the price of anything you own. If you buy a house you cant control its price when selling or buying.
If you own stocks, the same.
Although your content doesn't support your title but talking about the title of your post, you can't control the price of bitcoin but you can control the amount of bitcoin you have in your wallet either by making use of it or adding to it. Even during the beginning when the price was still cheaper, the supply remains at 21m and it still remains that way today. It is the demand for its use and supply that keeps changing and causing the price to increase.
ryan_orbitFull Member
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#7Nov 23, 2017, 06:06 PM
We need to understand one rule before taking any investment approach, so that our confidence is based on our knowledge of assets like Bitcoin. If we believe Bitcoin will crash, I think you need to understand the asset in more detail so that your investment is truly informed by its performance. Assuming people buy Bitcoin at the peak, if the investment scenario is long-term, they shouldn't experience losses even if Bitcoin experiences a sharp decline like the one we're currently pursuing.
The reason I say this is because Bitcoin always achieves a gradual recovery after gaining strong support, or what we often call a cycle, where Bitcoin will return to its highest peak, even if there's a decline like the one we're experiencing now. Calmness and unfazed by downturns is a mental preparation for every investor, as they realize Bitcoin will recover when the time comes.
Just doesn't add up what you are saying.. your title is far different from the content of your write up.. is you wish to ask a question that needs good replies then try to make sense out of your question..
The bitcoin market has grown long enough to crash. I always tell people that such phenomenon is not possible anymore for BTC. The chances of bitcoin going from a round number to completely zero is just not adding up.. we have to look past these few dump as bitcoin has long past these kind of situations. Those who bought at a very cheap price barly have nothing to lose at this point in time. Bitcoin still remains profitable for every single sat they own..
You don't need to buy a whole bitcoin and even if bitcoin reduces to $20k, not everyone will be able to buy it as a whole because individual's financial strength differs. No matter how little or much that your financial strength is, you're only to buy a particular amount of bitcoin per time.
The control we have over our bitcoin is that we can buy the quantity we want to buy at whatever time we want to do so as long as the financial well without is Available. You can't do so much about bitcoin price other than taking advantage of the prices and buying as much as you can as long as the resources is available.
With Bitcoin, it means we are the bosses of our Bitcoin holdings. That complete control has not changed to date and will continue to be so.
However, regarding the potential profit from the price difference between buying Bitcoin at a few dollars and having to spend thousands of dollars to own Bitcoin, I cannot guarantee the answer to your question, but I believe I would not be disappointed even if I had to spend thousands of dollars to obtain Bitcoin.
From the topic; of course we have full charge of our Bitcoin, remember Bitcoin is a decentralized currency, and so far your seed phrases are safely stored without any third parties concept then you are in control of it.
I think the best topic for this thread would have been something relating to "A surge in Bitcoin price today or the investment approach and strategies to Bitcoin"
Because there is quite difference between the topic and the thread.
A person's gain or lose in Bitcoin investment is not guaranteed, invest and get ready for whatever that awaits, but in all Bitcoin still wins.
orbit_sageMember
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#12Nov 27, 2017, 09:18 PM
As long as you keep your wallet password safe, your Bitcoins are yours. As long as you keep holding them, you can keep control of them. But your Bitcoins must be kept in a self-custodial wallet where only you can access them, so you have full custody. But even after doing all this, if for some reason you forget or lose your password, your Bitcoins are not yours.
Well, like others have said, the title of the thread doesn't correlate with the content, so you might want to figure out something different if you still wish to change it. And as for the question you've asked, it would be best to hear what you actually think, because asking questions like this most times means that you already have something in mind. This fear of big crash/wipe is nothing new, but common, it shouldn't even be a discussion in 2026.
If you will agree with me, Bitcoin has experienced several highs. From $5, $50, $500, $5000, $50000, and so on, and all of these highs were once considered Bitcoin's peak/ATH, and of course, we had so many people who bought. But fast forward to today, Bitcoin hasn't crashed. So i think that's enough to tell you that no matter the price you buy at, the odds against you are only for a short term due to temporary declines, but in the long run, the profits are likely to come.
gwei_minerSenior Member
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#14Nov 28, 2017, 06:50 AM
Before I read your reply I read the op title and the thread over and over again to find the relationship between them but there is none, Im still wondering how op came up with the title and how he linked it to what he has been discussing in the op.
[1] Perspective: Op the community have control over bitcoin as a mass opinion
[2] Perspective: If you have your coins in a wallet that only have access to with a good security, and not an exchange DEX or CEX you have control over your bitcoin.
[3] Perspective: We have control over our bitcoin as long as its not under any government control or reach, how you spend it, all that is your own control over your bitcoin.
I guess you have to change the title into "Do we have control Bitcoin's price?".
Because based on what you're talking about, it's the pricing that you're more concerned with and to answer that, we have no control over it.
Then those who have invested thousands on the early days even if the market crash so badly, they're still in profit.
That's their advantage why they're not going to lose everything and that's a misconception. In paper, everyone is on loss but you have to ask them what's their buying price.
When we talk about having control over your bitcoins, the point is actually about having control over the ownership and custody of your bitcoins. You control your private keys and can be your own bank without third parties interference as seen in traditional banks. It does not apply to having control over the price of bitcoin. It you keep your coins with the exchanges, they own the bitcoins because they are in custody of it and are in control of the seedphrase.
No single individual controls the price of bitcoin. Bitcoin's price is controlled by the market.
Answering from the your topic, yes we do have control over our own Bitcoin if its in custodial wallet or cold wallet, but if its on an exchange or centralized wallet, then the exchange store your bitcoin for you. Answering from the content of your thread, No. we have no control over Bitcoin price, it does it thing and we follow the trend. For those persons that accumulated far back 2010-2013 or thereabout, they are on huge profit right now despite the dip as long as they still have it in stock. As youve said, if one should have gotten some bitcoin at least it peak and the price dip, as long as youre using discretionary funds to accumulate Bitcoin, you shouldnt panic, because bitcoin will correct it self and hit a new ATH.
CalmLedgerSenior Member
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#18Nov 29, 2017, 12:31 PM
You controls your Bitcoin in your wallet and if you don't sending to exchanges and keeping in your wallet, you are safe and fully control of the use. Bitcoin becomes your long term investment if you said you bought at 2015 and you should making a big profit.
Those who owned Bitcoin and keeps in secret are controls their Bitcoin. They do not worry with the scamming, or hacking because they secure their wallet from the bad.
For the clueless, a big crash is always coming that will wipe out the value of Bitcoin
Some people will even hope for $1000 per Bitcoin.
The funny thing is even if that $1000 comes they still won't take actions.
Separate yourself from the herd.
Leave the past as the past, Bitcoin value will never go back to it's past price again.
Take advantage of the dips, focus more on DCA.
If you are someone who fears losing it all to Bitcoin you are better off buying lands in your country, avoid Bitcoin.
Because if you don't, your fear won't even allow you to reap the fruit of investment and you will be forced to quit on the half way.
If you don't have confidence in Bitcoin, don't invest in it. You should do your research on how Bitcoin works before investing. First, if you keep your Bitcoin i an opened source non custodian wallet, it is safe. But you can lose them if you expose your wallet to bad actors. Second, the Bitcoin market will not crash. There are been different predictions over the years of Bitcoin going to zero, but it has never happened. Third, target to buy Bitcoin during the bear market and plan to keep it for a long time.
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