Is tweaking DCA investments a smart move or just risky?

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r3al_b3arMember
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#1Jul 5, 2024, 08:31 PM
Has anyone tried reselling and investing in DCA funds to improve returns? Like, let’s say you put some cash in when Bitcoin was at 77k and now it's up to 78k. If you decide to sell now, you could snag a little profit and then use that money to buy back in when Bitcoin drops to, say, 70k or 67k. I’m curious if anyone’s actually done this sort of thing and whether it’s a good or bad investment strategy? What are your thoughts on it?
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QuantumYieldSenior Member
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#2Jul 5, 2024, 10:25 PM
Check this. DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?Generally both DCA strategies work and it's wrong to prevent other people learning and applying any strategy especially it is a work-strategy. In my opinion, DCA strategy (the traditional or classic DCA) is a best one for everyone, and before an investor already applied classic DCA strategy for months or one market cycle and see it truly works with profit for him, it's not safe to try Smart DCA strategy. When with own experience and got profit, that investor already understood about the market, the classic DCA strategy, so it's kind of mastering it and it is time to try customizing it. Smart DCA is not for everyone as it requires knowledge, experience, and skills.
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davechadMember
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#3Jul 6, 2024, 01:00 AM
Sorry man but this isn't an investment practice into Bitcoin, it's trading when you aim at short-term profits, DCA is about consistently buying periodically over a long accumulation timeframe. Even if you sell at $80k and take profits, there's no guarantee you'll be getting $67k again to buy back cheaper when it falls, so the best practice in DCA is to keep buying and stacking regardless of the price, so you can accumulate a decent portfolio after a longer period of time. You can go ahead and keep buying if you've discretionary funds available instead of waiting unnecessarily and timing the market to buy low and sell high. I believe better outcomes with DCA is the product of your portfolio worth after a longtime of consistent investment in Bitcoin and not your short-term trading profits.
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ColdViperSenior Member
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#4Jul 6, 2024, 04:43 AM
I have my own experience doing this and you need to be an active trader. In fact, many do it and it is worth understanding that sometimes this strategy does not work well. But you should never assume that your analysis will be 100% correct. You should always try to stay in the safe zone according to your analysis, and this will help you countless times in terms of profit (buying and selling opportunities). In this case, if you buy Bitcoin at $77,000 and sell it all at $78,000 (this is called market timing, not DCA). On the contrary, you can sell a part of the profit for $1,000 and keep the rest. And in that case, if the price increases, the price of Bitcoin at $77,000 will also continue to increase (meaning you will automatically make a profit) and if you think the price will drop a little, you can take the opportunity to hold $1,000 and buy it back with your $1,000 at a good support below $77,000. I am commenting from my experience! However, if you post this on  Trading Board, you can get better information from experts!!
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bengweiSenior Member
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#5Jul 6, 2024, 06:36 AM
This strategy isn't really DCA strategy but more of an active market timing. It depends on the kind and access to tools you have and can use at your disposal and your tolerance for risk as much as patience is also involved and it is more of the strategy of swing trading or range trading instead of a steady DCA strategy that can last for a while of maybe up to 8-10 years before taking returns. You would also have to keep fees for trading this kind of strategy in mind because the market is volatile and many times may not fall to the dip you are expecting and this becomes an issue when you intend to buy the dip again.
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alexaltFull Member
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#6Jul 6, 2024, 12:34 PM
Anyone that buys at a lower price to sell back when the price increases to buy back again is a trader and I don't see how that can be called DCA because DCA is the continuous buying weekly/monthly irrespective of the price of bitcoin at that moment. Why I said this is trading is because, if you have sold and the price keeps pumping, you will start waiting for it to dip below the price that you sold before buying back. I don't see how this will increase your bitcoin stash overtime because it's like you are gambling.
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real_pixelSenior Member
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#7Jul 6, 2024, 12:45 PM
That selling off when it's just moved a couple of hundreds or thousands won't be felt by small investors. But as they say, profit is profit. Doing this might be easy to say but when we're actually in that scenario. We'd think of pretty low prices and we'll set for that to happen and at most times, it won't go that low. It's not that bad if you're good at it, it just so happen that for me this won't do. So I would do the more consistent ones without looking at the price while doing DCA.
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im_bullSenior Member
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#8Jul 6, 2024, 04:36 PM
You are just trading and not DCAing. People who adopt DCA always have long-term goals. They are accumulating and hodling for a long time. If you keep buying and selling, you are a Bitcoin trader. You should know that trading is risky since the market is volatile. Bitcoin price could drop below the price can increase above the amount you sold and this might lead to losses. I am not a fan of trading because it is risky and requires some specialised skills. Long term accumunation through DCA is my ideal strategy.
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guru365Full Member
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#9Jul 6, 2024, 06:27 PM
If you know what you are doing, then buying at 77k then selling at 78k, and buying back when the price is gets lower is really a smart move.  When I was so fond of trading, I do this kind of strategy and it really works well as long as the price really fluctuated. The downside is that it is very tiring since you have to monitor the trade unless you have a bot to execute the strategy automatically.  Another thing is when the price starts to uptrend right after you sold your BTC you will not be able to buy Bitcoin at a lower price and to continue your DCA you will be forced to buy at a higher price to continue your accumulation.
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cryptobridgeSenior Member
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#10Jul 9, 2024, 03:28 AM
I don't think such practice can be consider as investment but a trader that takes advantage of candle wicks. Buy low and sell high and buy back again when the price is low. This looks good during bear market, you can see that's what Bitcoin has been doing since last 3-4 months but the disadvantage of this is you will fallout of the market the day the Bitcoin market take you by the horn. There is nothing guaranteed about up and down as far the market is concerned, you may end up buying at the to again. I have done this for sometimes, they work well but I don't want to do it again. There are times you may think you have bought and wait for the market to do what you expect only for it to dip again. You will have to do DCA to average your buy before you can recover what you have lost. You can try it out if you see the opportunity but just know it's not sustainable for long term. I will hold Bitcoin and then focus on other things becomes a full trader if I have the time.
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coin_sigmaLegendary
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#11Jul 9, 2024, 05:54 AM
I don't think that's a DCA. What you're doing looks like a Fibonacci sequence in which you sell at a new higher high and then rebuy at retracements or golden zone areas, as you described above. Actually, that is effective if you know exactly when to sell because there are times when the price may not fall any lower than you expected, which is also risky unless you are willing to buy back if the price cannot fall below your buying price. I do this on futures in a confirmed trend; I sell to a new higher high and then wait for a retracement between the 50/200 EMA, but I believe it also works on spot, but if you are targeting a small range, your profit may be drained by trading fees. I think the most effective one is the classic one that was mentioned above; you better stick with DCA if you have a long-term plan.
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paul_omegaFull Member
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#12Jul 9, 2024, 08:02 AM
It is a solidly conceived idea only if it is possible to execute but, it never does come to that does it. This would require you to keep your coin on an exchange, waiting for this to happen and that’s usually huge which means, you would be taking the risk of leaving your coin out there with hopes of making profit and don’t forget, you sell, you’re most likely holding that value in USDT or some other stablecoin. There is obviously no guarantee Bitcoin would dump after you sold. It could as well pump and wouldn’t dump for several months. You’ve got to be very good with your analysis for any hopes on that to work.
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leo.wolfHero Member
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#13Jul 9, 2024, 08:33 AM
It’s definitely a risky form of trading and with bitcoin volatility and unpredictability I am very sure that trading with this method that OP is suggesting will lead more to losses than to profit in my opinion. This isn’t so much different with the prediction market like future trading Just that there is no leverage like the regular future trading on  exchanges. Personally I also agree that it’s more of a gamble than anything. As for if this is a good DCA method, I say it’s not actually related to any DCA form, the real meaning of DCA is to actually accumulate bitcoin for a certain period of time and buying at just some random prices and not necessarily specific price. This makes you have investment accumulated and different price intervals and at the end of the day have better average buy. You can see this is clearly not a buy and sell options as such you’re more of a trader than investor using DCA method
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john.gweiFull Member
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#14Jul 9, 2024, 01:29 PM
Almost what I wanted to throw at him clearing him about his strategy for profit making as what can't be spoken to be an investment strategy with bitcoin but trading. It's actually buying and selling just immediately as price goes up above your bought price, or isn't that what traders do? A bitcoin investor with the DCA approach doesn't sell as price leaps up, they have a long time duration plan which could run in years under a systematic buying without regard to the current price. Well, am not surprised at the OP, many people really can't differentiate bitcoin investment from trading.
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ryanwizardSenior Member
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#15Jul 9, 2024, 05:28 PM
Have done this on countless occasions, once I buy when the market fall and then later cell when it rises, wealthy initial plan still remain in place whereby are invest continuously upon every Fall of the market, however, we must also be able to point out that this may also not be applicable to everyone that is into bitcoin investments, except that they see it being affordable to try upon their investment as well.
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chris.altHero Member
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#16Jul 9, 2024, 08:13 PM
I second notocactus that trying to "smart out" a DCA strategy is often likely to fail or give worse results. A good strategy is to do a traditional DCA with some adjustments: when it feels the price is very good to buy (often after a sharp decline which doesn't looks sustainable) to increase the DCA amount, while when the market feels overheated (e.g. last year above $115k) to reduce the amount or directly sell some coins. I would however not try to do that with micro movements like a $1000,  $5000 or even $10000 price change. These micro movements are very much unpredictable and can appear at any time in any direction. A more complex strategy than the "Smart DCA" strategy was published by @virginorange in 2024. It involves trying to compute a long term trend, and continuously re-adjust it, instead of simply following a relatively simple indicator (like in the so called "Smart DCA" strategy). It still requires involvement, and I would not recommend it to anybody, but it looks a bit better to me than "Smart DCA".
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gigahodlerFull Member
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#17Jul 9, 2024, 10:03 PM
This is good and you can buy more Bitcoin with that amount of money. But if you follow this method, the chances of losing your purchase opportunity are much higher and it can lead to regret in the future. If a new person does this, then it will be the biggest mistake for him. He can become greedy after seeing small profits and can get lost from the humanity of long-term investment. It will not be the right decision for a new person to do this. However, if an experienced investor and can control himself, he can adopt this method. But he has to keep one thing in mind. He can do this with a separate amount of money while keeping his main investment active.
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alt_gangFull Member
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#18Jul 9, 2024, 11:58 PM
Yes, i already did this so many times actually using spot only, DCA then reinvesting, sometimes it failed but most of the times my instinct is correct that's why i keep repeating it over the decades i'm investing in bitcoin. But most of the time i just holding and DCA for longer time than doing this. Because one wrong move, those time investing with profits will turn to losses at the very end.
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r3al_b3arMember
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#19Jul 10, 2024, 02:01 AM
Actually, I basically meant this as you did. And I have done this myself at times. Especially when I sell the Bitcoin I invested in DCA strategy again, I take the target of that selling amount and invest again when the price drops. And to be honest, I've done this a few times and the experience wasn't bad. Sometimes it seems that I have bought Bitcoin and invested in DCA at a slightly higher price, so I do this to minimize it. Yes, there is definitely risk in this, but in my case, I try to invest a minimal amount, such as $10 per week. Now, if I have to face a loss sometimes, within $10, the loss will be negligible. But I want to thank everyone for their suggestions and advice.
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CalmLedgerSenior Member
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#20Jul 10, 2024, 07:16 AM
This is buying and selling and it has nothing to do with the DCA. The DCA only support long term investment and even though its gonna be a short investment, it shouldn't be with this kind of pattern. This is more like a trader in the market trying to make quick profits as the price of Bitcoin is going up and down. There are so many ways to customize ghe DCA but shouldn't be in this form. This strategy is frequently used by people that are looking to makw quick profits form the market without wasting their time to hold for a longer time.
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