Let's talk about the Labcoin lawsuit that's coming up. I'll kick things off with some thoughts from a previous thread.
Alright, everyone, let’s take a breather and look at the facts. That Chinese address is three years old, and right now Alberto is in Italy, likely has been for a while. So that’s where we should start. Next up is Fabrizio Tatti, the Italian guy who owns I-tec.pro, aka Labcoin. We really need to focus on him.
First, we should compile a list of all the folks who’ve lost a ton of cash (over $200,000 together) due to this scam. With that list, we can file a criminal complaint with the Italian "Polizia Postale," which is their cyber-crime unit.
In the complaint, we’ll include details about Alberto’s role in Labcoin, his history with fraud, and an estimate of how much he’s ripped off from people in the past. I have a feeling they’ll want to take action against him because it’s their job to catch guys like that. Plus, since Fabrizio is involved with a known criminal, I’m pretty sure he’ll face consequences too.
We’ve got their IP addresses from IRC, and I bet the Polizia will figure out who Sam is and bring him in for questioning. If he’s real, he’ll likely get in trouble as well. We can also point out that they’ve been logging into various platforms, and I’m sure those sites will cooperate with the police to provide info about the accounts these scammers have been using (like IP addresses linked to Labcoin and delaria accounts). Burnside might release the IPO BTC address and possibly IP info through a request from the US government.
No Im not italian, the actions how to proceed is based on free advice from a italian lawyer who is willing to set up the case for his normal fee if we hire him. to hire him we need someone to make a contract with him so he could proceed. his advice was to get enough people involved so that the total amount of lost money is at least 200 000$ so that the police will have sufficient motivation to proceed with investigation. I will see if I can post his responses here in this thread.
well thats why we need the Italian authorities to take over the investigation so they can get the full IP history of these SCAMMERS, and considering that the first Q&A Alberto logged on IRC with his real name and own IP I do not think they have done a good job of hiding in the past. and the second Q&A sam also logged on IRC without proxy one time and he was in Italy but said he was in Switzerland.
Update on the situation.
Currently we have about 12% of total share holders behind the coming compliant against Labcoin and Fabrizio. Nice work everyone! I didn't expect to get so many on board so fast but I guess Labcoin is not that popular atm.
Tomorrow I will contact the lawyer again and lets see how it goes from there.
Pleased to hear about your initiative. I would like to eventually submit info as I had lost quite a bit.
However, we as a community need it to be vouched that this is not a follow up scam, and that you yourself are not a scammer. I personally do not think this is the case, but we need some additionally info by which to judge your trustworthiness(or anyone's) to communally stop the scamming. I know some people will be afraid to submit info to you as it currently stands.
Hello and thank you for your concerns.
You are absolutely right that there is no reason to trust me as I said I'm just a newbie here. I'm sure that the people who has contacted me so far has some trust in me because they read the post I made with the information regarding Labcoin here or on IRC, or they know that I'm part of LCSH group who is a group of mostly respected members of the community.
I just made an update on the self moderated Labcoin thread were I explain that I don't need your personal information this is information only shared between the lawyer and the share holder who is joining the compliant.
Furthermore to build trust in this case and me to take it forward the LCSH are backing me up and have been planning this as a possible action since the troubles began with Labcoin. I will submit my personal name and address to the lawyer as this is needed for him to accept the case. The lawyer is also a member of the btctalk community so he could verifie that he has my information but I'm not sure he could give that out according to the client-lawyer non-disclosure terms.
I could give my information to the LCSH group I trust them not to miss use it.
And if someone doesn't want to have anything to do with me I'm sure that I can post the lawyers email address here ( when we hire him ) in this thread and the information could be sent straight there.
Here is a update
Nice work every one we now have 1 million labcoin shares backing up a compliant against Labcoin and its owner Fabrizio Tatti.
To be on the safe side with my estimation of total amount of lost money I'm using the IPO price as the buy in price for all the shares so that means 1000 BTC lost and with BTC price at 200$ ( to be on the safe side ) we have reached our minimal goal to make a convincing case with the Polizia Postale that is 200,000$ of lost money.
That said I'm sure that some of you have bought in above IPO price and the total amount will be higher. The price you paid for your shares and your total loss of money just like any personal information will be information that you only shall shear with the lawyer we hire, in that way any information is covered under client-lawyer non-disclosure terms.
Any one who wants to join us can PM me here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=144825
If you don't want to disclose the amount of shares you have to me that is ok ( as we are over target ), as long as you are willing to submit it to the lawyer when the time comes. As long as the compliant is not yet finalized for submission to the authorities there is time to join.
I have no specific time table to give you at the moment since we are in the beginning of the process. 2 weeks is TM of labcoin so I wont use that, but I'll keep you updated. At the moment we are still gathering support and information, PM me if you got something to ask or have any useful information.
I'm not sure about how any payments to the lawyer are handled, but I just wanted to confirm that virtualspade does an awesome job behind the curtain and this thread is legit.
Thanks dexX7, auto2nr1 and gecko_x2 for confirming I'm not a scammer
Update on the situation
Fabrizio is the first person that the police will investigate since it is his company that is behind Labcoin according to the IPO contract.
I'm sure he will cooperate with the police in the case he also has been scammed and has nothing to do with all of this as he has claimed, but that still remains to be verified by the police.
I have contacted TheSwede75 and I'm communicating with him and he is willing to help in any way he can, I'm hoping he has something of value to contribute since he was working with "sam" on the IPO details and was in close contact with him.
Now that we have the support of so many share holders we are starting the next phase of the process, that is gathering and organizing all the information for the complaint.
I will be taking the weekend of from all this since I have logged so many hours on the case this week, but you can expect me back on the case in full action next week again.
Thank you for your support
virtuals
Did you contact Meni Rosenfeld about this? He is (was?) supposedly trying to get some money back from Alberto regarding his bitdaytrade scam:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=93445.0
He may or may not have recent contact information