In the past 24 hours, we just saw a massive liquidation wave that took out more than $1.5 billion in leveraged positions in BTC, ETH, and other major coins. The total market cap has dropped back below $4 trillion, but Bitcoin is still managing to hold around that $112K support level.
What’s really intriguing is how the Fed's recent decision to cut rates may have contributed to this over-leveraging. A lot of traders jumped in, pushing leverage up everywhere, and now we’re facing some harsh consequences.
Liquidation surge sparked by Fed's interest rate reduction
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alex.shardLegendary
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#2May 25, 2017, 09:13 PM
People should not use too much leverages to trade which is the cause of the liquidation.
I do not think the rate cut is the reason for the liquidation. I understand you that you mean people use high leverage to go long position, thinking the price of bitcoin will increase because of the rate cut.
After the rate cut announcement, bitcoin fell a little but it increased back and increased more than where it was falling from. All happened before 5 hours. Good traders know that rate cut sentimental trading will not last more than such amount of hours and they would have left the market. Even the market was very boring at the time which is another signal that the rate cut is not having any significant effect on the market.
HyperCipherFull Member
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#3May 26, 2017, 12:46 AM
Although that's true, but nothing is going to change the fact that there was a spot market seller that caused those liquidations in the futures market.
The market simply wasn't in a state of parabolic movement to blame the flash crash on leveraged traders. Plus the market wasn't in a state of euphoria with traders trying to front-run each other before the crash.
shard_minerSenior Member
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#4May 26, 2017, 01:05 AM
Well, things have now come to lime light following the seemingly positive macroeconomic event of which is the rate cut by Feds, because that has now exposed the underlying fragile nature and extreme leverage which is a constant within the crypto market.
Also, this is seen as a bullish signal for risk assets including Bitcoin and other crypto currencies. It shows a sudden reversal of market sentiment too, as we significantly observe the price correction that has happened already and swiftly.
bridge_atlasFull Member
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#5May 26, 2017, 05:25 AM
I am amazed that such small movements even make news these days. Back in the day Bitcoin would drop by over 10% with 24 hours, every major altcoin would be ready by even a bigger percentage with liquidations happening right and left just because there was a rumor that China was going to ban Bitcoin and life would get back to normal within a few days.
This small corrections or movements might not even be about the Fed rate cuts. It's just the market being the market.
I'm thinking more of the market just chasing liquidity as usual.
Lately fed rate cut has been frequently priced in even before announcement because people are getting good at predicting what comes next yet.
The recent 1.8B liqudiation means the there are so many liquidity that it's worth chasing, from the market perspective.
vault_nodeFull Member
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#7May 26, 2017, 05:50 AM
Fed rate cut might not be the only reason, its just that in the market you cannot pinpoint a reason but consider different causes behind a movement.
Whether good or bad it will make the market move up or down you have to move in the opposite, sell when the price rises and buy if it falls. Currently its holding but there is a chance of a down fall from this price.
In either case we just have to stand our ground and buy if it drops, simple.
HyperCipherFull Member
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#8May 26, 2017, 01:02 PM
It's actually not the reason as posted by OP.
OP's hypothesis is because of the rate cut, traders saw it as a bullish indicator which made them open long directional trades on leverage. But because the market had a flash-crash, then they got liquidated.
What actually caused the flash-crash, which also caused the liquidations is unknown. If the OP is blaming it merely on leverage, then I believe this is not the right situation for leverage to actually cause a crash because there was no parabolic price movement.
calmfalconSenior Member
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#9May 27, 2017, 05:04 AM
Markets have always proven to go in opposite directions. While some might think this as a good news about feds cutting rates, the markets are not thinking the same and for short term we did see a good dip which wiped a decent chunk of investments.
I'm pretty sure it was the newbies who rushed themselves into taking unwanted trades and got liquidated at the end. Feds cutting rates is a good news but for a very longer time. We might see some effects in March ending or maybe in the first phase of April but thinking this will effect the markets this soon was a big mistakes for those who got liquidated.
Hopefully, they learnt a lesson and might not repeat this in future if in case they still prefer to stick with trading not just to make profits but to learn market sentiments.
That's how brutal leverage trading is.
This is also one of the reasons why I don't recommend anybody to do leverage trading especially if they aren't ready for the risks of it yet. It's coming from me who lost thousands of dollars in leverage trading already (although I'm slowly recovering already from my losses).
Aside from the FED's recent rate cut, there are some reasons why the market dropped as well. GDP is one, rising bond yields is also another one. Most of them are macroeconomic events that affected the market, but the main reason is the reduced expectations of another cutting of interest rate saying that it's too quick for them to cut interest rates.
Nevertheless, many are looking at $105,000 as a strong support, and currently, we're on a sideways movement (since it's weekend). Let's see if this will week will be a recovery week for Bitcoin or we will see it continuing to go down even more.
I think the reason the market is down is because of manipulation by market makers, whales, not because of any of the reasons you are mentioning. Because with the news of the rate cut, most people will believe that the market will grow strongly and that is why more than 1.5 billion liquidations are long positions.
Also, if you check the US stock market like S&P 500, Nasdaq, all hit new ATHs just days after the Fed announced the rate cut. Meanwhile, the price of bitcoin continues to fall without any positive signs, and long positions are continuously liquidated. This is clearly manipulation and not caused by macro news.
In the beginning, when the price is low and it is about to start, 2x leverage is okay to my mind and it's sometimes okay to use 3x leverage but for higher safety, let's stick with 2x leverage. Today, when the price is so high, 2x leverage isn't very safe because what if the market crashes below 50K? To be honest, I think it won't happen because of Bitcoin ETFs, this year is really different from the rest.
Btw the most dangerous thing in trading is a short position on futures. It's very dangerous even without leverage but it's extremely dangerous with 2x and higher leverage.
Sometimes its not only due to Feds rate cut. It seems shortsighted to blame the Feds rate cut alone since traders piling on extreme leverage is ultimately their own risk management failure. Over leveraging always magnifies losses, and relying on central bank policy as a justification ignores the fundamentals of responsible trading. Imagine the whales seeing users and retails go broke is definitely not part of a healty market. In my experience every rate cut by Feds pose a different result. Sometimes even cutting down market still fail to go bullish as this is really volatile effect.
He could be referring to this news, as not just crypto market, but every other financial assets is waiting for this news. In short, for me it still has the influence as every month that they've released it, everyone is reacting to it negatively or positively.
And so far, we did say that it's a positive news in the beginning as the price goes up to $117k. But after that, it could be liquidation or that there are traders taking profits and then it trigger another avalanche of selling off.
Yeah make sense. The markets reaction to this news is almost like clockwork. Even if its generally positive, traders behavior tends on profit-taking, stop-loss triggers, and liquidations which can quickly turn the initial spike into a sharp pullback. It really highlights how sensitive leveraged positions are and why these releases always make waves across not just crypto but the broader financial markets. I wish I could predicted a lot of opposite movement contradicting my trades to spot those gains but in reality its hard whether its fundamental or technical analysis basis.
CyberWhaleSenior Member
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#16May 29, 2017, 11:48 PM
We didn't even get a decent bounce after the rate cut news dropped. So when we got the red days, I just figured that the news was already priced in. Stocks and equities were going to new ATHs almost every day and everyone thought that rate cuts will be +EV for crypto and that we'd finally get our own ATHs. I think that's the reason why the market of over leveraged during that time and we got the highest ever liquidation day since 2023.
Wiping $1bn is not a big deal when it comes to cryptos. We have seen larger numbers in the past. We did see a dip while everyone was expecting bullish momentum so it is quite convincing to see all these liquidations. This might not be directly linked to the fed rate cuts but those were one of the bullish fundamentals on which most traders were relying onto.
Even after these bullish fundamentals, we did see a price dip which did make thousands of traders or mostly whales profit into. Individual traders who had smaller accounts got liquidated here as they did not have enough margins but still preferred to open riskier positions. These traders let emotions control their positions and we all know what happens when emotions jump into our trades.
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