Massive $24.8B Bitcoin Purchase Went Unnoticed Amid Retail Panic

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chad100Senior Member
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#1Jun 22, 2017, 02:27 AM
So, Friday was a wild ride for Bitcoin. We saw a huge sell-off that dropped the price down to around $79,000, and it looked like a classic Head-and-Shoulders pattern forming. If the weekend dips below that key level, we could be heading towards $75,000. But check this out, on-chain data shows something totally different. There was a massive amount of Bitcoin bought through the OTC market on Friday, hitting an astonishing $24.8 billion. That's about 69% of all transactions, compared to the usual chunk that goes through centralized exchanges. Meanwhile, 97% of crypto selling was from short-term holders cashing out. Looks like someone big is making moves quietly, scooping up all the panic selling without affecting the BTC price at all. And this is happening right as the White House is about to drop some big news about Iran.
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paulyieldSenior Member
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#2Jun 22, 2017, 03:26 AM
So institutional and people who "knows something" is already positioning? It does make a lot of sense considering Trump and Xi recent talks could be all about trying to open strait of hormuz. However, the ETF daily inflow is sitting negative today. So, i'm not sure to take it as a bullish signal and act.
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SilentBullFull Member
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#3Jun 22, 2017, 04:15 PM
Who is this person? Could he be someone inside the White House who already knows what will happen in the near future? Today, the price started to fall again and is already below $79,000, so a drop to $75,000 is likely in the near future, as usually when a decline begins to appear, retailers panic and sell to secure assets.
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defi_2017Senior Member
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#4Jun 22, 2017, 07:56 PM
Well, that tends to happen: whilst some people panic-sell, others take the opportunity to buy cheaply. As Buffet said: We’d love it if he were an insider who knew that the new Fed chair was going to announce interest rate cuts, or that the White House was finally going to announce that it had bought bitcoin – things like that. But I think it is wishful thinking. Too good to be true.
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yield_guruFull Member
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#5Jun 23, 2017, 08:19 AM
That's really interesting if true. What's the source of the OTC data? I have my doubts about the reliability of such information, as I would imagine OTC transactions are not necessarily reported on live, and I'm sure some of the big buyers would prefer not to advertise their purchases to the world. Could it be that some of the internal transfers within CEX can be incorrectly assumed to be OTC purchases?
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node_walletSenior Member
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#6Jun 23, 2017, 02:28 PM
I don't think that it really matters now whether the buyer is an insider from the white house or his intentions for the lump sum accumulation, our major concern now is what the impact will be on the market on the short term. If the dip sustains and gains a downturn then we will know that it's impact amongst other fundamentals have hit the market negatively. To support it I believe that weak hands will sell making a dump to become certain although we shouldn't worry because as soon as there is a massive buy backs we will come back to the where we were and know the way forward again.
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oracle_satoshiFull Member
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#7Jun 23, 2017, 04:24 PM
I have also tried searching, but there doesnt seem to be any information or sources that confirm the data the OP is referring to. Besides the fact that OTC trades are rarely disclosed, buying as much as $24.8 billion would be highly unusual because that trading volume is enormous. If that news were true, it would have spread widely due to the sheer size of the transaction. But hardly anyone talks about this. So Im also quite skeptical about this information.
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real_ledgerFull Member
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#8Jun 23, 2017, 07:33 PM
I also question this a lot because this is supposed to be something that is done offline or however it is not directly recorded online. How do these data collectors do the linking to determine which movement was a purchase and which one belongs to a group that decided to move their coin into a more secured wallet?
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vault_2009Full Member
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#9Jun 24, 2017, 01:37 AM
I never understood these, since it's OTC, are we 100% sure about these? I know that there are ways that people are seeing this and claiming that yes this is real, but since it's OTC, there has been always a doubt in my mind. But even if we take this as reality, it's clear that it can't be a single company or person, because nobody puts 25 billion into bitcoin that quickly, there aren't that many companies which can even do this, and if any of them did, we would know about this. So, it's really not as big of a deal as we think. Anyhow, this must be a good news to bitcoin and I believe this may trigger other billionaires to consider abut bitcoin investments, literally praying for such things to happen recursively.
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the_kingHero Member
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#10Jun 24, 2017, 04:48 AM
If those who bought Bitcoin held it until the next halving, I speculate that person would be a Bitcoin billionaire by then. I consider this person to be a genius at thinking about Bitcoin, he knows that the price of Bitcoin in the future will break new volumes, perhaps exceeding the previous price. Indeed, being involved in the Bitcoin market is like that, we must act by monitoring market developments from now on and providing technical support.
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CalmLedgerSenior Member
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#11Jun 24, 2017, 05:32 AM
This can be an example of insider movement to dominate the market before anyone does. Those that are able to get signal of the market before the real news that will push price up will definitely make money from the crypto market. If there will be a position news on Iran due to the visiting of the United States president and big companies CEOs to China, they could have  planned and talked about ending the war so that it doesn't lead to something serious that will involve other countries to join the war.
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cobra_2015Full Member
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#12Jun 24, 2017, 11:39 AM
Buying and selling from OTC markets does not directly affect the market, and $24.8 billion is not a small amount to buy without rumors appearing or investigations starting to drastically change the price of Bitcoin.
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chad100Senior Member
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#13Jun 24, 2017, 01:19 PM
Personally, I’m willing to take that risk. Aligning your Bitcoin purchases with "smart money" always pays off well, but you have to look at it from a medium-term perspective. These entities don't operate on a single-day time horizon; they accumulate their positions over weeks and months, so daily ETF noise shouldn't scare you off
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chad100Senior Member
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#14Jun 24, 2017, 06:51 PM
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chad100Senior Member
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#15Jun 24, 2017, 09:13 PM
You are absolutely right. These trades are executed off-market on purpose. Ironically, the very fact that they don't impact the spot price makes them far more valuable for analysis. Essentially, the buyer is "catching a falling knife" without even attempting to hedge their position. Given that prices could easily drop well below current levels, this tells us the buyer is in a massive hurry. Is there a major market-moving event just around the corner?
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BasedTokenFull Member
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#16Jun 25, 2017, 03:24 AM
If they could spend billions of dollars buying bitcoin, they would already be billionaires. They do not need to invest in bitcoin to become billionaires.  And I believe that people who own billions of dollars are not ordinary people. They possess sharp minds, deep analytical skills, and access to information that ordinary people could never obtain. This applies not just to Bitcoin, but to all financial markets.
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