Pangolin Whatsminer M10 33TH consuming 2145W

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#1Jan 10, 2021, 11:38 AM
Pangolin just dropped two new miners for pre-order on their site. They have a BTC miner that hits 33TH and pulls 2145W for a price of $1999. How are they achieving these numbers with 16nm tech? And what's up with that "or better" thing? Don't they know the specs of their processors? What do you guys think?
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darkguruHero Member
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#2Jan 10, 2021, 02:56 PM
Look at the amount of wattage it uses. Yikes.
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darkguruHero Member
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#3Jan 10, 2021, 05:58 PM
Easy, just check out the overclocking threads for the s9: given the right voltage, freq tweaks and decent cooling they can run in the same per-chip hash rates. As for the 'or better' I suspect they are either using multiple foundries for their chips or as the 16nm node further matures are anticipating at least 1 more process improvement for the node.
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#4Jan 10, 2021, 08:36 PM
so they do 2145/33000 = 0.065 per gh? and are really by far the best most efficient miner ever made? So if you purchased the GMO miner  at .082 per gh you got crushed by this miner. The M10 is like a freaking beast btw bitmain has dropped the s9i down under 600 to 564 https://pangolinminer.com/ M10 rules  if this is true.
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#5Jan 11, 2021, 02:25 AM
My thoughts exactly. Right now, the M10s have the best specs out there. And the price is pretty good.
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#6Jan 11, 2021, 05:35 AM
I'd be leery on a presale. Just look at the M3 that went from almost $2k to under $300 from price wars and market fluctuation. Was a nice pump and dump. Glad I sold all mine shortly after receiving. They used more power than advertised too. Bitmain or Canaan has to be releasing something more efficient to start new price war for GMO and this. Someone will most likely be shipping something better/cheaper before these and GMO even start shipping.
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#7Jan 11, 2021, 10:12 AM
The s9i is 544 with a 100 dollar coupon. 4 days out The m10 is 2200 with shipping 70 days out Tough call to spend 2200 on a preorder
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#8Jan 11, 2021, 11:23 AM
Yea, destroys the the b3. 33th is nice but over 3300w. This is more in line what we're talking about efficiency wise in one of the other speculation threads.
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#9Jan 13, 2021, 01:06 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2390138.msg42861780#msg42861780
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hodler2019Legendary
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#10Jan 13, 2021, 06:38 PM
this m10 is the most efficient miner ever built. (claimed not proven yet) I am truly looking forward  to giving it a good testing and demo. If it is under 0.070 a gh  and does at least 30th it would still be the best miner ever built. I also hope that they   create a lower speed optional firmware. They made firmware for the M3x  to save power see below https://pangolinminer.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360007140454-Low-power-Firmware-for-M3X-release An option like this for the new miner would be good for some of us. The ability to lower power to 1800 watts on low speed and say 27.3th vs 2145 watts  on high speed and say 33th  would really make this gear a winner
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#11Jan 13, 2021, 08:14 PM
I'll be interested to see what the real power draw is. My old M3s were pulling 2400W each vs the advertised 2000W.
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#12Jan 13, 2021, 08:59 PM
Specs do say +-10% on power draw...
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m4dwolfMember
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#13Jan 13, 2021, 09:15 PM
Yes they do, but +10% on 2000W is 2200W, not 2400W... That's 400W over between the two.
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#14Jan 14, 2021, 01:10 AM
even at 2400watt on the wall 2400/33000 = 0.072727272 watts per gh which is better then anything else time will tell  I will do detail videos on it in the garage and in the solar array  I will meter it in both places I will also attempt to test other psu's if at all possible. I have a 2400 watt psu I have a 2500 watt psu I have a 2880 watt psu I have a 2980 watt psu along with the stock attached psu. I am waiting for a contact email  as Hagss setup it up and I should hear from them soon.
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#15Jan 14, 2021, 05:43 PM
My point got a little lost, I simply meant I am dubious of their power ratings. Yes even at 2400W this current model would be nice, hopefully it stays in this range. I hope I am wrong as my M3s were excellent miners and this one looks awesome.
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hodler2019Legendary
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#16Jan 15, 2021, 09:43 AM
Well my M3 did just about exactly as advertised.  They sent me and Hagss testers to demo.. So frankly we hope this will be the same. We will let you know  when we get them.
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LoneChadFull Member
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#17Jan 15, 2021, 02:16 PM
We've never had a request for a whatsminer. Personally I don't know much about them. Pangolin is the place though? Reputable? We'll want to list the M10 probably wait another month on the altcoin asic. Nov is so far off in this world. We're just very confused as Pangolin hasn't responded to us at all.
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#18Jan 15, 2021, 07:12 PM
They are not ready as of now.  So they may not have wanted to list with you at this time.
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LoneChadFull Member
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#19Jan 16, 2021, 12:13 AM
Pangolin is the manufacturer or a reseller?
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hodler2019Legendary
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#20Jan 16, 2021, 03:35 AM
Try shooting HagssFin a pm he would know more then me. Last dec he set the Demos up.  I did the YouTube videos and he did the write up on the M3. We each got a demo machine.  We paid for them they were sent early at a very small discount to us.  But that was when Btc was to the moon 19900 usd if I recall
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