Bitcoin is leading the way in global transactions, investments, and trading. It’s definitely a heavy hitter in the investment scene, but let's not kid ourselves, there are some real issues with the practicality and economics of the network.
Transactions on Bitcoin can be super slow. The block size is limited to just 1 megabyte and it takes roughly 10 minutes to mine a new block. Because of this, the network only manages a handful of transactions per second, which is pretty weak.
And then there’s the crazy price swings. Bitcoin’s value can change in the blink of an eye, making it a tough option for everyday transactions.
Investors often get jittery because of these ongoing network problems. These issues are varied and need the attention of developers. Since Bitcoin is used for global transactions, fixing these network issues should be a top priority.
Real issues with the Bitcoin network
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All this you are saying is not a problem we can find with the Bitcoin network; let me give you some reasons for them one after the other, as you have stated them.
1. No network problem causes bitcoin transactions to delay, we have the implementation of the layer 2 protocol, which is intended for faster transactions and lower fees, also solving bulkiness transaction issues.
2. When you talk about being slow, Bitcoin transactions are not slow compared to Fiat currency transactions, which are the cross-border transactions we have been doing traditionally over time, wild bitcoin transaction fees are still customizable.
3. You will have to prepare for volatility, because you can't expect it to work as a stable coin, in this same volatility lies the opportunity to make a profit or loss as it may be applicable.
Bitcoin transaction is instant it is that the confirmation takes time.
As the prior reply stated, Bitcoin already has a 2nd layer to fix this, the Lightning Network. At the same time there are centralized services that fix this through internal transfers.
Mechants solve this by real-time conversion so this problem is not really a problem. Traders and investors can even make this an opportunity to earn profit.
The time for Bitcoin transactions waiting a long time in mempools before getting a first confirmation is quite long time like two years ago at least. Recent months, mempools are good and transaction fees become very cheap with not only possibility of using 1 sat/vbyte fee rate for a confirmation but even lower than 1 sat/vbyte fee rate.
Fluctuate does not mean price is too volatile as in definition, fluctuation is for small price change around a range, and it is different than volatility.
Honestly, investors don't have too much demand on moving their bitcoins on chain as their investment requires to hold bitcoins a long time. With holding practice, you don't have to move your coins today, tomorrow or very often.
People who have needs of on chain transactions more often are like traders, gamblers, and users for payment with bitcoin but it's not too challenging for them. If they need quick confirmation in next one or two blocks, they can use higher fee rate, and pick fee rates on tip of Bitcoin mempools.
In addition, they can use Bump the fee in order to increase fee rate for their transaction and get quick confirmation.
https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC%20(default%20mempool),24h,weight
How many network congestions have we had this year?
I can't even recall the last time but us been long since Bitcoin network experienced such congestions that made fees high an slow.this shouldn't be an issue because I'll still prefer waiting a while for my transactions to be confirmed, rather than being under a system created by the government for control..
All market experiences volatility at different pace. So Bitcoin isn't the only one which is very volatile. Have you compared uts volatility to that of altcoins and see?
I agree that Bitcoin is still ineffective as a medium of exchange but these aren't major problems if I may.
You mean the internet as a network here? Slow or speed depends on your ISP, once you broadcast the TX it will appear on the network immediately and if that's included in a mined block then it's confirmed, so all you need is a decent network, even if that's in Kbps is enough and then use 1sat/vb that should be more than enough to be included in the next block.[/list]
The post is right firstly about some of the problems, although I see them more as challenges that make the network stronger and one Bitcoin faces to balance security with decentralization and scalability as the main backbone on which the network stands.
Since it is doing so much fast to make security and decentralization more efficient, speed and cost would definitely come at a cost of little consequence to ensure the system functions effectively and productively.
The slow speed if at all, ensures that the network is hardly censored or easily highjacked and shutdown by the government and something we don't get to see with our eyes because it is behind the scenes maintaining our security and privacy.
paul.stakeHero Member
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#8Aug 6, 2020, 12:51 PM
Bitcoin transactions are slow only when compared with credit and debit card transactions, but this is not a good analogy. Most of the electronic transactions that take place today are not final settlement transactions.
Bitcoin is more useful for when final settlement is a priority. There is no other asset that can travel the world with final settlement in 10 minutes.
So what exactly is expected here? It must be able to handle tens of thousands of transactions per second, while every holder must be always wary of the potential for a freeze, the recovery of which could take years?
10 minutes isn't just about security, but the protocol's assurance that it's completely under your control without censorship.
It's a feature, not a bug
All youve mentioned here is very correct, in as much as bitcoin has proven that its the strongest global investment. It also has problem that people face. Bitcoin transactions are always very slow because of how the system is designed. Most people complain because of the 10 minute time they take, but for me I think its for security purpose. About price volatility, you are very correct because bitcoin price is not stable, its volatile in nature, it goes up and down overtime, which it becomes difficult for people to use it like a normal money for daily exchange. Bitcoin has a strong foundation but they need to develop the price stability and they also need to improve more on their speed area.
At least give credit to some of the problems in the bitcoin network that developers has being able to solve and not just emphasize on those yet to. We never had lightening network years ago but now it made bitcoin transactions completely different prior to it development.
For overseas transactions 10 minutes isn't what I would be bothered about for a delay. Fiat wouldn't do 10 minutes less and with a terminal payment. As for the volatility of bitcoin, that's the driver for opportunity and risk of the currency and everyone just have to find a way to deal with it.
Most people that complain about bitcoin transactions been actually slow in my opinion arent fond of using the traditional monetary system for cross boarder transactions, until one has experienced the hassle associated with using that is only when they will actually appreciate how bitcoin transactions are.
Take away the credit or debit cards transactions which we all can list many of its flaws with fail transactions topping the charts I think that going into the bank to perform a cross boarder transaction will take multiples of this 10 minutes. Bitcoin isnt perfect and thats why its just an alternative
ryan_vaultFull Member
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#13Aug 7, 2020, 10:03 PM
I agree with you here, Bitcoin can travel far and wide within a few minutes, as you have stated, compared to other methods, which would take time and also commission as well to middlemen who would facilitate the process, but with Bitcoin, not much wasted time. Under your custody, you could transfer a huge amount to clear up bills that could have taken time to do so. No commission to anybody, it is just you alone and the end receiver of the transaction, and no one else is involved.
Wrong. You can instantly make bitcoin transactions, so its not slow. What the issue is the confirmation time. So this is technically wrong.
For merchants this is a problem before but not for today. And for people aside from merchants, this is probably the most great in bitcoin, pumping it like thousands in just an hour or few hours.
tony_ninjaSenior Member
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#15Aug 8, 2020, 04:23 AM
Yes, Bitcoin transactions are instant not slow at all, the network hasn't been congested for a good many days so we can say that transaction confirmations are also mostly done in 10 minutes or sometimes in 15 minutes, and the fees are also very low right now.
Long time to make transaction and slow transaction are seem thing, why outline them separately?
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Volatility is in two ways. We can benefit from it also. It is the volatility that attracted people to bitcoin, no need to paint it black now
While people are talking about other threats as quantum computers attacking bitcoin network, you are still talking about transaction size and time. I think we have gone pass that stage.
OP, you probably can't have the best of everything. We're still looking for that perfect currency. As far as Bitcoin is concerned, I guess security is the topmost priority. You probably can willingly compromise speed for security, for example, but certainly not vice versa.
Why were layer 2 solutions implemented in the first place if there was no problem with the network?
Final settlement for fiat transactions may take time, but they could be instant at the surface level. Of course, cash is instant.
True, but when it comes to Bitcoin's use in commerce, as money, that would be a significant hindrance.
Yesterday, I made a bitcoin transaction and it really surprised me because it was completed very quickly. In the past, when I used to make transactions, it did not go through this fast. The network was usually busy, so it took more time for blocks to confirm but now the blocks are being processed much faster and transactions are completing in a short time. The fees also seem lower compared to before and honestly, the whole experience yesterday felt really good.
boss_wizardSenior Member
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#19Aug 8, 2020, 09:53 PM
Bitcoin of today is pretty fast and cheap too.
People who keep saying bitcoin is slow and expensive just don't pay enough attention or never bothered to make an on-chain transaction.
They are still thinking of bitcoin at the time when the whole network was getting spammed with ordinal transactions.
Use bitcoin and try it out and you will see that bitcoin is much better than what these people painted out to be.
tony_ninjaSenior Member
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#20Aug 10, 2020, 09:56 AM
I've made many transactions during this month and all of those transactions were pretty fast and took less than 15 minutes at max. We'll know that 10 minutes is needed for confirmation and sometime there can be a little delay, since fees are also low right now so there's no issue at confirmation of transactions set with low fees. The ones who don't use the Bitcoin payment system can say whatever they want but we use it ourselves and we know that it works better than any other payment system, and it's best in security.
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