S15 and T15 from Bitmain dropping on 8/11/2018

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#1Feb 19, 2017, 01:26 PM
Looks like they skipped right over the S11 and T11 models and jumped to S15 and T15. These new ones are using 7nm chips. No info on the price or shipping date just yet. But the release date is set for 8/11.
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#2Feb 19, 2017, 02:19 PM
Some leaked info   Hashrate =34TH Price = 1200 power = 1500W these information was giving to me by a Chinese friend who is an loyal customer of bitmain.  I can not confirm/deny but usually his leaks are accurate. let's find out in 2 days. RIP S9s
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#3Feb 20, 2017, 09:00 PM
imo they will flood the market as they usually do, diff will sky rocket and yea RIP S9 not sure about that info but hashrate seems a bit too high no? I'm betting on that but a bit lower, just a bit
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#4Feb 20, 2017, 11:08 PM
Considering 14nm chips are 13.5th at 12xx watts I’d expect around 26-27th range for the same wattage. That’s a big IF on them solving all the issues with the 7nm chips.
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#5Feb 23, 2017, 04:00 AM
we shall find out in 2 days. i personally hope it fails big time to be honest. i am not buying any more asics and i still want my s9s to bring in some BTC
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#6Feb 23, 2017, 06:45 PM
Spec wise we're probably looking at 28-30th/s at 1500ish draw. Looking at market could see a price range from $1.2k-2.2k. Most likely on the low end to compete with the T25. Also the added tariff is 25%, for a total of 27.6% duty to the US.
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#7Feb 23, 2017, 07:26 PM
1500/34000 = too good too be true. 44 watts a th is head and shoulders better then the m10 which is about 68 to 70 watts a th. But they did claim under 50 watts a th.
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#8Feb 23, 2017, 08:26 PM
Picture also hints at integrated psu and dual fans one side. So quad fan? We should be able to rule out their need to use the APW7 for this. Thinking 35- 40th/s at 2500w perhaps? (high end)
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#9Feb 26, 2017, 06:04 AM
'Wu said tests have shown that the chip can achieve an energy/hash ratio of 42J/TH' The 13.5 S9 was using 0.098W/GH, meaning 98J/TH. This is potentially 2.3 X more efficient. So it's capable of around 31TH using the APW3++ at around 1400W? But they won't max it out to start with, they'd want to bring out newer, improved versions later on, so perhaps 28TH @ 1,350W?
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#10Feb 26, 2017, 08:17 AM
It appears to be lessor in depth also, they have probably realized that shorter hash boards will have better cooling performance.
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#11Feb 26, 2017, 08:43 AM
The best a s7 with lots of mods was around 0.22 or 220 watts a th The s9j can do about 88 watts a th On a chip rated about 0.068 watt a th. Bitfury 100 watt a th  gear Can go as low as .06 watts a  th. So a .042 watt chip Is going to be more like 55 watts maybe 60 watts a th. I just wish two things a manual speed not auto tune. As I prefer slight underclock. And if it goes on sale on nov 8 I hope it ships quickly. If it is 1200 I am looking at 1600 after shipping and tax. Not sure it is worth 1600 unless it comes really fast and does 55 watts not 65 watts
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#12Feb 26, 2017, 10:19 AM
Yeah, these additional 25% tariffs are definitely killing us miners here in the US. Quite frustrating.
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#13Feb 26, 2017, 10:57 AM
As an electronics builder in a family of beef and soybean farmers, I get to see the tariff double-whammy up close. China's retaliatory tariffs on us are for products they can buy from at least 20 other countries. But our best tariffs on China are for products the entire planet (led by us) has, over the last 30 years, tacitly handed complete control of to them without any concerns whatsoever. Has China's export business even noticed a dip?
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#14Feb 26, 2017, 01:33 PM
I'm pretty sure they will be more than 1200 stock + shipping and taxes in some cases
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#15Feb 26, 2017, 06:37 PM
It will take a while for the 7/10nm generation miner makers to make enough miners to push the difficulty up to the point the S9 becomes unprofitable if you have VERY cheap electric - but that point will get reached eventually.
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#16Feb 27, 2017, 12:14 AM
Inno just replied with the Terminator3 https://twitter.com/Inno_Miner/status/1060007186489782273 Preorder ...
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#17Feb 27, 2017, 03:48 AM
I doubt the S15/T15 can get 34TH at 1500W. GMO has their 7nm chips out and their Miner B3 unit is 81W per T. A lot of the power efficiency and how well it performs comes down to chip design. We know that Bitmain is bleeding money and they lost most of their best engineers. If their ASIC really was as awesome as they claim it is, they would have released some real numbers on their "teaser" release. So the only thing really they could hype about is the 7nm technology. If their chips really did 45W per T, they would have bragged about it already. Just my 2 cents.
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#18Feb 27, 2017, 05:17 AM
In a few hours we'll know more. Just wondering how much.
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#19Feb 27, 2017, 06:43 AM
The whatsminer m10 does 34th at about 2400watts.  I have two of them. And they use a 16nm chip. So I get around 68-70 watts a th with them. I think we will get 55-62 watts th with this gear. The real concern is how fast do they ship it.
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#20Feb 27, 2017, 07:42 AM
S15 28TH/17TH 1596W/850W T15 23TH/20TH 1541W/1200W
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