Smart prompts = Solid gains

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chad_bitFull Member
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#1Jun 10, 2017, 03:22 PM
I've been taking a little break lately and figured it’s time to level up my trading game with some AI help. This way, I can cut down the effort I put into trading. All I really have to do is prompt and double-check the analysis before moving forward. I've tried out ChatGPT, Grok, Meta AI, and GetAgent, and honestly, they've really boosted my understanding of how to jump into coins or stocks for trading. I remember refining my strategy with the last AI tool, and it gave me some solid tips that helped me stay competitive among the top traders on the leaderboard during events, whether it’s Stock Futures Rush, trading, or just chatting. Smart prompts = Solid gains. If things keep going like this, I’m pretty sure my portfolio could grow by 30x by the end of the year. Anyone else using AI for trading?
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alex.shardLegendary
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#2Jun 10, 2017, 04:57 PM
30x? That is too much to be optimistic about. Greediness and inability to be patient has been the main reasons traders are losing. Good traders can make money for days but just one or two days can wipe the whole money if the traders are not patient. I do not use AI but I am patient and I am seeing good result but the profit is not much.
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SilentYieldSenior Member
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#3Jun 10, 2017, 11:00 PM
Wow it seems very optimistic and you have a great record of trading, but I think you need proof to show it and if what you say can be confirmed, I would appreciate it. For example, the loading of Promts that you use and the proof of trading/profits that you get, this helps the credibility of your words friend, so if it's just limited to talking without concrete evidence, anyone can do it, it's easy if you just rely on stories. In the use of AI I also use it like Grok and Gemini for additional reference to the latest news and discussions made by others on X, but it is not the main thing, and only uses a simple prompt to find out.
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oracle365Full Member
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#4Jun 11, 2017, 03:09 AM
You are still a successful trader even if your profit margin is small, what is important is that you are profitable. Being okay with compounding profit overtime shows that you are a patient trader who has mastered their psychology and not in a hurry of chasing market trends. Be careful of the expectations and targets you set, so it doesn't fuel or cause you to be greedy. Because when expectations becomes too high, you may begin to drift away from patience you practice and the strategy that you have.
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HyperGweiSenior Member
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#5Jun 11, 2017, 11:15 AM
It is not just as easy as saying a good prompt or instruction to an AI would produce decent profit, if it was so straightforward and easy, everyone would be doing it and making profit. Trading is risky and difficult, irrespective of whatever strategy you implement. I understand that AI can help to sharpen your trading skills and improve your strategies, but it does not guarantee steady profit or continuous success in the long run. Do not also get too confident doing this and chasing the returns you have in your head, and then forget how to effectively manage your funds by reducing risk.
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mike.chadSenior Member
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#6Jun 11, 2017, 02:13 PM
I have not and I don't know when I will be able to do that. It might sound easy with the prompt thing but I have also heard profit isn't just as it sounds. More over it is also disastrous when technical hitch happens. I prefer slow and steady then gradually you can achieve what range you desire instead of artificial intelligence and risky moves involve in it.
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chriswolfFull Member
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#7Jun 11, 2017, 08:12 PM
If all you've mentioned are ideally correct, then why is it that majority of traders still do not trust AI for their trades? I don't think a lot of us here do not know about AI, surely they're aware of it but they never put their trust and apply on their trades, why? Because using AI can never guarantee a successful and profitable trade. It can only gain advantage at first just to attract the trader but most likely, the next trading movements will end up a mess. I did say this because I'm also one of those who used to believe on AI, until it gave me a hard lesson and realize that trading is always best done and perform through your own mental and emotional capacity, through your own experience and enhanced techniques in trading.
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d3f1_2015Full Member
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#8Jun 11, 2017, 10:34 PM
I'd be happy for you if you're going to be able to make that profit for yourself. While I agree that there's a need for good prompt to maximize the potential of AIs but doing it for them to trade for us, we're getting near to that. I am seeing AI that are now trying to get into compete with other AI for which is better and more profitable to them. If that time comes, I'd love to let an AI trade for me and do all of the work, analysis and market research to react on those automatically and decide for the best of it.
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ericminerSenior Member
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#9Jun 11, 2017, 11:51 PM
Can you give us a sample of a good prompt if I may ask? I do agree that it's the secret of unlocking the power of AI, thru prompt making. And it's like writing the code, but this time, the tools have been developed to used human language. But still I do agree with you that it has to be refined to better suit what you need. That's why I'm just curious as how you unlock and write the best prompt for trading. Edit: I would understand if you don't want to share your "trade secret".
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matrix100Member
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#10Jun 12, 2017, 02:19 AM
May I ask how much time did it take for you to gain 30x, because it’s really hard to believe that can happen with healthy trading. Some professional traders doesn’t make that in years of successful trades. Unless it’s gambling with higher lots and massive leverage, nobody can make that in a year or maybe two. That’s only from how I understand the real trading without huge risk. I really want to trade again, especially with the help of AI now, it worth giving it a try once again after years of abondamment. I also wonder if funded accounts worth the efforts or is it better with my own investment only.
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alexwalletSenior Member
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#11Jun 12, 2017, 08:14 AM
Prompts that you think are good (especially if you're using AI as an Expert Advisor) often don't work after a while. Market structure and price movement patterns are constantly changing, and relying too much on monotonous prompts will only lead to poor analysis and your hopes of achieving a 30x return may be dashed a quarter of the way through. Prompts should be constantly readjusted as you perceive these changes.
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ryan69Full Member
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#12Jun 13, 2017, 12:23 PM
Probably you got novices luck, 30x is a huge reach even for the best. Though AI can be good, but you need to master your skill or at least know the basics before talking about trading!.. I've heard about get agent even tested it out myself and j think it could be a huge catch though especially for traders. But I've only used it for crypto!. Probably I'll try for stocks!. And use it to get an edge in the latest futures rush, earned TSLA the last time, now MSTR is on the cards, will feedback you how it went.
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cobr4404Full Member
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#13Jun 13, 2017, 03:53 PM
Well, if AI helped you in trading then it's good for you. You're not the only one that had the same experience when it comes to AI being used in their trading decisions. I also used AI in my trading as well, but not to the point where I will rely on it in terms of entry price, stop-loss and take profit price. Good prompt = decent profit? I wonder what would be the prompt for it to be considered as "good" enough for the trader to make some profit in trading. If you believe that you will make your money 30x with the help of AI then good for you. If it works for you then for sure it will not work for others out there. The use of AI differs from one trader to another. For me, I only use AI to gather the news for the day, and to look at the sentiment of the market for the day and for the week. I also ask AI for the trend of the market for the day. That's all. As for using AI when it comes to trading, it's good if we know how to maximize it. For me, relying on it is still a no-no, but there will be a time where there will be more traders out there that will be profitable than others just because of the integration of AI in their trading decisions.
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max_atlasSenior Member
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#14Jun 15, 2017, 02:25 PM
Increasing portfolio by 30x is huge and not many traders can achieve that good result. You can use AI to make a profit so you can still use it to trade. I don't use AI for trading and still use manual methods in analyzing the market. But it is not easy to use AI especially if you can't learn how to use it properly. AI can help but it depends on you how to learn it because AI still need our attention to give the command. Congratulations on increasing your portfolio and staying among the top traders.
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cryptolordFull Member
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#15Jun 15, 2017, 07:38 PM
Of course he won't tell you any proof, because he's on the leader board of yapping. Logically, if using AI could significantly improve people's trading performance, then we can see that many professional traders use it as their primary tool. Yet, professional traders still rely on technical and fundamental analysis for their trading strategies. I'm not saying AI can't be used in trading, but I find it a bit unreasonable to believe that it could significantly increase people's trading profits.
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SilentBullFull Member
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#16Jun 15, 2017, 08:44 PM
That's good if work well for you, but 30x seems to high and you should cautions because crypto markets always full of surprised, and high target may end up bad for you. Never use AI until now, not sure if that's good for my trading for knowledge, maybe good because that's machine give may outsight and can be as preference for our trading but still as traders we should make own analisys.
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ericnovaSenior Member
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#17Jun 16, 2017, 01:57 AM
It is obvious that you are a great optimist, since you believe that you will be able to increase your deposit by 30 times by the end of the year. AI should not be overestimated, as according to the trading competition that is currently taking place between AI, GPT 5 and GEMINI have already lost 60% of their initial deposit - https://nof1.ai/leaderboard
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paulyieldSenior Member
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#18Jun 16, 2017, 03:27 AM
More like good model = decent profit. Good model is the one trained on trading datas, Grok is pretty good at trading because it's trained on a good trading data as well. Doesn't matter how good your prompt is if you're using garbage AI you will get garbage too. Most of AI before was pretty garbage for trading analysis but right now things improve.
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vault_2009Full Member
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#19Jun 18, 2017, 03:06 PM
How these AI tools will predict the upcoming whales manipulation with one particular coin or stock? Sudden fluctuations are most common everywhere thanks to news/events or insider information. For such fluctuations, no technical analysis will help you so as per my understanding about AI, no big differences between technical indicators and AI tools. You mean, good results with AI, shared in social media or review portals? But, I will not get deceived by such things until I use and experience by myself. But, I feel like, it is too early to think about AI for trading, I am just waiting for noises to settle down and more improved versions to arrive.
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vault_nodeFull Member
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#20Jun 18, 2017, 04:22 PM
I would never trust a machine like that, but use my own methods to trade with my own analysis to back it up. There are some bots to help you do this but this can automate the trade, prevent redundant things but not change the basic way the trades work. The hype around AI is so much that previously trading bots would be sold and now ai trading bots are being sold to that same public with a new twist. I would suggest to be careful using AI in everything that you use but use your own brain to work stuff out. It gives us a sense of calmness when we are automating things thinking that we are not making a mistake. But this is completely false notion.
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