Thoughts on the second half of 2025?

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ninja_ledgerFull Member
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#1Jun 11, 2020, 08:49 AM
We're just about to hit the halfway mark of this year and honestly, it’s been pretty terrible so far. Sure, some people say Bitcoin is doing well, and I guess it is to an extent. But let’s be real, the price is lower than what it was five months ago. It’s pretty much just hanging on without any real progress. Now, when it comes to altcoins, that’s where I’m mostly invested and it’s been a disaster. Some of them have dropped like 75% from their peak last year when things were looking up. Thankfully, I've had a few good picks last year so my portfolio is still doing okay. I was starting to feel hopeful for June after the positive CPI news, but then I wake up to all this FUD from the Israel-Iran conflict and the market is crashing again. Some of my altcoins are down like 15-20% in just 48 hours. War is terrible, and the tariffs have really set things back this year. Still, I can’t shake the feeling that this is just a cover for some serious market manipulation to keep prices low. I had my hopes up for a decent June before we head into the usual dull summer, but now I'm not even sure we'll get that. It might just be a wait till Q4, which typically brings better vibes for crypto. Right now, I’m just holding tight, not buying or selling anything. If we drop another 10%, then I’ll jump in and buy more. What about everyone else? What’s your take on the rest of 2025? A lot of folks are saying Bitcoin might have peaked, but that doesn’t seem right to me. I’ve seen predictions in the $160-200k range for this year. Are we still on that train, or is 2025 actually bringing us into a long bear market?
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pixel2014Hero Member
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#2Jun 11, 2020, 01:13 PM
Just be careful with altcoins because as some fall, they may not get back to the price you bought them, the only coins that I know you can buy but its price fall and later increase back is bitcoin. Also the way altcoins are falling, it can really be frustrating. As you think some has falling to 75%, it is possible they can still fall more. People buy them, dump them and move to another altcoin and so on. The most frustrating thing about altcoins is that they are not getting to all-time high, which means they are not store of value.
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ninja_ledgerFull Member
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#3Jun 11, 2020, 05:15 PM
Yeah it’s been a lesson learned for me, it’s my first cycle and I thought Bitcoin was too expensive when I got in around $40k so mainly went with altcoins not knowing how the cycles work, with Bitcoin moving first before altcoins etc. But saying that, whilst Bitcoin has pumped almost 200% since I first started , I’ve had a few altcoin winners over 1000% which is why I’m still in the green overall but most of mine are down 30% or more, some as much as 75% and those ones I am just hoping they recover the the price I bought in so I can then move them into Safer altcoin plays. I’m expecting an average summer, either sideways or down but hoping we can have some good news with rate cuts by August to then hopefully give us a good last 3 or 4 months of the year.
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yield_hawkSenior Member
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#4Jun 11, 2020, 11:33 PM
At least you learn your lessons, and most of us did go to that hard pain of thinking that it's expensive and yet during the peak of the bull run, you can still make a lot of money if you only bought it at a lower price. That's another thing right now, it seems that the cycle of altcoin has change or altered already. Before it used to be Bitcoin-> followed by pump by a lot of altcoins. Now, it's totally different, most of the top altcoins are way below their previous all time high at -60% or even higher. So it just shows that the money is still with Bitcoin right now so you have to make your choice.
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viper_blockSenior Member
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#5Jun 12, 2020, 02:49 PM
Maybe this June, Bitcoin can not perform well as we may seen what happen to Bitcoin so far. But we can still expect a better situation in the next month and make Bitcoin price increase and break the last ATH. I am not sure if the top price for Bitcoin is already happen. I predict the top price could be at more than $150k especially many companies, rich people, ordinary people see how good Bitcoin performing. They want to buy and hodl Bitcoin like the others so this time still good for accumulation. It is good if you are still hodling but you need to buy more to have more Bitcoin. You need to use Bitcoin for a long term investment while you can expect to make a big profit from your altcoin. We may see altcoin season coming in the near so it is better you focus by buying Bitcoin and wait for the altcoin season coming.
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ninja_ledgerFull Member
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#6Jun 14, 2020, 06:38 AM
I dont have enough funds available to buy Bitcoin right now. My bet for this cycle has been altcoins, and I am waiting for another run like we saw end of 2024 when my portfolio went from break even to +225% in just 5 weeks. I took profits when that happened but not enough as I thought we would keep going up in 2025 but it has been awful with Trump his tariffs and wars etc keeping stocks and crypto down. My plan is to sell all my altcoins when they finally see a move to the upside whenever that comes this year, and then with those profits buy Bitcoin.
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its_foxSenior Member
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#7Jun 14, 2020, 08:55 AM
I think there will be changes in the norm of the games. Yes bitcoin still might reach that or were already swimming around the top. If your fond of alts or airdrop just like me, then ofcourse youre hoping to witness once more the great altcoin season which is truly great. Or maybe it will never happened again. All we can do is take extra cautious on not to get so hype and more careful. Always have extra funds or stable just in any case it wont happened not to get buried the alts we have or if you want so safe then go for bitcoin.
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0xWizardFull Member
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#8Jun 14, 2020, 12:12 PM
Stablecoins is the best bet. Most altcoins are seriously going to lose almost entirety of its marketcap in 2025-26. Cash is going to play a major part in 2025.
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johnkingSenior Member
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#9Jun 14, 2020, 01:37 PM
I was not conversant with the crypto space in the past bull run, but I was informed that there was always an altcoin rise after the Bitcoin bull run. Anyway, I am not a fan of altcoins, so I don't have much interest in them. The crypto market is highly influenced by global economic and political events, which cannot be predicted. Since we don't know how the tariff war will play out and the extent of the escalations in the Middle East, it will be safer to expect anything. If you are still hodling just expect anything.
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orbit_2013Full Member
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#10Jun 14, 2020, 05:17 PM
I won't focus on alts in my answer (there's a whole section to discuss about them) but on what you said about Bitcoin: I'm one of the many who think that Bitcoin is doing well this year. Yes, you can be right that the price can be currently less than it was 5 months ago if you compare today's price with the previous ATH, but we've just had a new ATH a few days ago, and what is most important is not that the price didn't keep increasing at the same pace as the last year's last quarter, but that it's holding new supports after such a great surge. If you mean that Bitcoin dominance is very high and we can see a change making other projects more profitable, who knows, but to me Bitcoin holding over the 100k is really good news.
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its_vaultFull Member
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#11Jun 14, 2020, 11:07 PM
That's a wise move you are about to take, to use the profits from altcoins to buy Bitcoin at the end of the year. For anyone who misses selling their altcoins this year, I don't know when will be the ideal time for them to do so because this year seems as the perfect time for everyone to sell out their hodl altcoins, to buy Bitcoin preferably because it is worth hodling for long term, not altcoins that is good for short term.
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leo.wolfHero Member
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#12Jun 15, 2020, 10:18 PM
Personally I am not fazed by all this short term dumps and swings in the market and personally I think everyone shouldn’t be worried about that too if only you are holding bitcoin, I personally think bitcoin will definitely bounce back and head for another all time high after this phase. Personally I was expecting a bullish June and bullish end to the second quarter. But still this is still not far fetched because we are still in the middle of the month and this war is just short term sentimental change. For me I think it is best to either accumulate more bitcoin at this period in time or simply just hodl but certainly there is going to be new tops soon, my prediction is still that bitcoin will get to $150k before the year ends
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dave.falconFull Member
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#13Jun 16, 2020, 11:20 PM
I think, in addition to holding Bitcoin, we should also do compounding and maybe it can be easier by using the DCA method to be able to add more to our portfolio, and even when Bitcoin experiences a correction in price value, it makes us want to add more Bitcoin to hold. Regarding the price value of Bitcoin, I think for some time now Bitcoin has been quite good, and maybe it will still experience a correction, but I am sure that at the end of 2025 Bitcoin will give us all a surprise, and I convey this based on the results of historical analysis submitted by analysts, namely 500 days after the halving, and that was in the fourth quarter of 2025, cmiiw.
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node_walletSenior Member
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#14Jun 17, 2020, 03:46 AM
You have to understand that Bitcoin is not a get rich quick scheme, it doesn't fly to the peak of ATH without experiencing some retraces and corrections so don't worry much about what is happening now. I have realized that Bitcoin investment is for the patient who can wait and endure through the storm that pullsback price before it will rally again. 2025 is just halfway and we have two more quarters to go, we need to be positive that we are still in the bull run and that we can see more ATH that will increase our stash. I personally don't put my trust in altcoins because most of them are gambles, they don't have potentials like Bitcoin which has built a reputation to be called a store of value. For altcoins I will only say gamble with the amount that you can afford to loose because most of them are scams that can never rally when they dump.
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s4t88Full Member
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#15Jun 17, 2020, 08:05 AM
First of all, I think this thread should be posted on the speculation board. It's a possible prediction, but it still remains unpredictable. Typically, the market spikes during the last quarter of the year, specifically in December, I think. I've witnessed it several years ago, and yes, it had a massive impact on Bitcoin's price during that period. I'm talking about Bitcoin, but if you insist on altcoins, sorry, I don't prefer to hold them for the long term. Bitcoin is still the best one for me.
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cryptobridgeSenior Member
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#16Jun 17, 2020, 01:31 PM
There is this behavior we used to have about Bitcoin, I'm talking about dump of Bitcoin price after everyone might have had some kind of believe in it to hold, some mafia will just pop out of nowhere and dump the price and everyone out of panic join the dump but things are changing, I'm not sure if I can say this is permanent yet but I see it becoming stronger, yesterday Iran and Isreal had some bombing on their, the Bitcoin market dump and was quickly adjusted, if it was before the dump wouldn't be good. What if Bitcoin becomes so strong that people refuse to sell again?  We might as well begin to have some believers in the whole of the market, the crypto market will be alive again and probably the people doing dump and running away from this market will summon some confidence and build this things for real this time even though the price isn't making sense, they stick around and continue to build, this is what crypto should be about.
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d4n_w0lfFull Member
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#17Jun 20, 2020, 12:15 AM
This is a good plan, staying calm while the market is uncertain whether it will uptrend or downtrend is a good sign.  It is also a good decision to accumulate more when the market goes down by 10% since it would be buying Bitcoin at 10% discount for now, I believe that the bull market is yet to end and Bitcoin has possibly yet to record its true peak this cycle, so I guess we can still have a time for Bitcoin bull run before the market transition to bear market. I am still thinking of $150k  BTC a piece this year before the bull market transitions to the bear market.  It is possible that the transition might happen at the later month of 2025 or an early quarter of 2026  but just as I stated, Bitcoin has probably not yet recorded its ATH this cycle.
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0xC0braFull Member
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#18Jun 20, 2020, 01:43 AM
Since you don't want to buy now unless the price fall by 10%, what about if it increases by 20%? When it does, you might not still buy because you would think of how you missed the opportunity to buy when the price was in this current level. If you are investing only on Bitcoin, you can use the dollar cost average method to buy  consistently and hold until the price spike to when you can take profit. You don't know what price might do next, so while you are waiting for a fall, you can still be buy just small fraction in case the price doesn't fall as you speculated. Speculation has it that Bitcoin will get to $150k this year and you don't know when that will happen.
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cybergasFull Member
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#19Jun 20, 2020, 10:51 PM
Its hard to tell at this point. Much like with gold, BTC price depends on global macro economics. For example, if this war with Iran blows hard, we might see movement. In which direction, i'm uncertain, but it will definately affect it. Keep a close eye on it and we will see how it will pan out. Check out bitcoin-meter as well, it takes these things into consideration, so that might give you some vague clue what's gonna happen
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block_2018Senior Member
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#20Jun 22, 2020, 09:46 AM
This year you said is bad does it refer to altcoin? But for bitcoin it is not too bad because this year has reached ATH although expectations are not too high because there are still a few months left to reach its record, it could be $150K this year as experts say. But it seems like you are trapped in an altcoin that is experiencing a decline when BTC is already dominating the market, your hopes may fail because many altcoins are falling, but unfortunately you are too focused on altcoins and too hopeful for an altcoin season.
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