Traders or Gamblers? Most of Us Are Clueless About Which We Are

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cobra21Member
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#1May 13, 2018, 12:05 AM
Honestly, how many of us are really trading versus just gambling with a chart open? We set up our indicators, draw lines, and chat about technical analysis like we’re pros... but often jump into trades because of emotions, Twitter buzz, or that fear of missing out. The reality is: a lot of folks in crypto don’t really have a solid strategy, just a lot of hope. Think about it: - Are your trades based on a real system, or are they just reactions to price changes? - Do you keep a trade journal, look back at your trades, and see where you can improve? - Or are you just chasing after those green candles and panicking when the red ones show up? There’s nothing wrong with being a gambler as long as you know that’s what you’re doing. But calling it “trading” while relying on gut feelings is a quick way to lose your money and then blame the market. So... what are you really up to? Trading? Or just pretending to trade while playing a risky game?
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0xC0braFull Member
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#2May 13, 2018, 03:25 AM
The reason for such misconception is because those people already believe that trading is similar to gambling. Gambling is very straight forward, you win by luck or lose still by luck but trading can be taken as gambling by some people, at least not those who have mastered the  knowledge of trading, they don't base trading on luck but by skill, the decision is left for the person to make. It's better to define what ever the person is doing, if they want to trade, they should build on the required trading skill but if they want to gamble, let them not learn anything. So, those people that doesn't know if they are trading or gambling has a problem, and the problem is that they can not comprehend the difference between both.
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miner2011Senior Member
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#3May 13, 2018, 04:09 AM
That's why trading is not just buying and selling that literally anyone can do, everyone can do it in reality, but not everyone is really diligent in studying what the deep meaning of trading is in real life. How many times has this been tackled here, its been several times too. That's why most of the crypto community still ignores this topic, because others have not been serious about studying the correct process of learning about trading.
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node_2020Full Member
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#4May 15, 2018, 10:32 AM
When you don't have a trading strategy and plan in place then it means you are just gambling in the market because you don't even know what the market/price is doing, and because you don't have a system you follow, but when you have a system and understand what the price is doing you you don't trade a like a gambler or panic out when you see a retracing price and when see those things.
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viper_2009Full Member
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#5May 15, 2018, 11:51 AM
If you think trading is like gambling, you will definitely lose in your future trades as you will most likely trade and rely on luck and chances. But if you trade with sufficient knowledge and developed skills and strategies that would suit your trading style, I can say that you will turn into a good and reliable trader. Trading does not have to be complicated, but never turn your trades into gambling, otherwise you will surely mess up with your capital and regret in the end.
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shard_minerSenior Member
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#6May 15, 2018, 05:28 PM
The distinction between a trader and a gambler is so obvious that I think that those who cannot distinguish between the two are outsiders. By outsiders, I mean that they have never been involved in either trading or gambling. - A trader has a better risk management strategy than a gambler - A trader has their emotions in check most of the time. - A trader is more strategic, and each of their trading decisions is carried out like a business decision because that is how they see trading. - Most traders don't chase big profits; they are comfortable with their small daily profits because they understand how it compounds over time. You can take this and flip it the other way; that is what gamblers are like.
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SilentBullFull Member
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#7May 15, 2018, 07:59 PM
I no longer do this, and it's not easy to do it consistently, but if I can, it will greatly help me make decisions in future trades because I can monitor market patterns with a journal. Even though I no longer keep a journal, that doesn't mean I trade like I'm gambling. For me, those who consider trading the same as gambling, thinking that only luck can make us profitable, is a misleading mindset.
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guru2011Full Member
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#8May 15, 2018, 08:55 PM
Old traders do not do this anymore because they have already familiarized the market with their different trading experiences. Although I’m not saying that these should be ignored, but it’s more on as you get used to trading in such an unpredictable market, you will know already if your trades will be favored by the market, or will gain higher probability of profiting from your trades. Trading mastery matters more than anything. But if you think you’re still in the process of learning, of familiarizing the market, then it’s a good thing to follow the basics so you can prevent yourself from losing mostly of your trades.
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ericchadFull Member
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#9May 15, 2018, 11:15 PM
Who are actually trading here and see it like gambling? I can say this is only applicable for those who are beginners in trading, as they are still confused on how to make their trades work. But if we are talking here about experienced traders, they have already passed that phase in trading, so they have learned already that trading is far different from gambling, and gambling itself will never be the same with trading. The only common is that they both have risks, but in trading we need more calculated risks in order to gain from our trades.
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planktonSenior Member
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#10May 15, 2018, 11:30 PM
Isn't it that what traders do? - We have a system, but obviously it will react only to where the price is going, it will have to validate the market movement for a certain period before you system point you to where to enter - Yes, I do agree with this, journal is very important because you have something to go back. Specially if the trades went haywire, you can review certain points and then learn from it and try to improved the next time. - No, that is the worst method of chasing green candles or then selling it emotionally. That's why there are strategies in trading and unlike gambling, you can have mitigation risk like stop loss and other methods.
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calmorbitFull Member
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#11May 16, 2018, 05:43 AM
When I trade, I know that I am trading and the useful charts and analysis are being used. Without such strategies being used, it's a total gamble that's being done. I have done that for so many times and I've given up with that strategy that I just traded due to my guts and feelings. It's not going to help and it's better if I just held for long term. So, for those who are aware that they are only gambling, they're going with the futures and putting medium to max leverage so that they can make huge profits quickly. That could work for some but everyone who does that have a negative experience and this is not advisable. You can trade for as long as you can but when you're out of the choices and strategies, you're just gambling and that's real.
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hodler_gweiFull Member
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#12May 16, 2018, 09:30 AM
Those who trade like gambling typically lack a system, skills, or trading experience. They trade solely based on statistical data and enter positions solely on emotions and feelings, relying more on luck. This leads to more losses because most of them are lazy about learning and want to get rich quick. Learning anything related to trading requires at least two or three years of solid experience, which is what makes someone an expert or professional. They learn, hone, and improve their trading knowledge through experience and time, making trading a business, which is certainly not easy.
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HyperHawkFull Member
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#13May 16, 2018, 10:45 AM
You're right that some traders or gamblers don't know the strategy they are using op, but any kind of strategy you are using to trade your coins in the market, make sure you are earning income from that strategy for other traders to know that you know what you are doing. You can decide to buy coins and hold for long periods of time before  trading, which is the easiest strategy many traders are using these days to get income from their trading because they like trading during the bullish season which is profitable than any other season, there are some traders who follow signals to trade coin which is another strategy some traders are using, but many traders don't like that strategy and it is not guarantee for traders to earn income on the time from the signal strategy.
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r3al_b3arMember
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#14May 16, 2018, 01:49 PM
When someone trading in the absence of knowledge, the involvement in it is like gambling because it relies on a hunch or only depends on the signals given by others is the wrong decision while undergoing trade. Most people realize that trading is full of risks so that involvement in it needs to be equipped with knowledge and for people involved in trading only relying on the hunch until whenever will not be able to survive in trading. Most people do not understand trade well and generally think can get wealth when involved in it so that what happens is the opposite that makes people lose more money in the trade.
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HumbleBitFull Member
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#15May 16, 2018, 07:23 PM
Well if you are a trader than you are also going to be called a gambler. The people that trade are gambling all the time when they buy and sell the different coins. But for me I do think there is a big difference in the 2 things. For a person to be a trader he has to do alot of research before making a trade. It can take alot of time to choose what he want sto trade. Any person can make a trader without doing research and that person is just a gambler.
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dave_byteFull Member
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#16May 16, 2018, 09:12 PM
You may need to create another topic that is more interesting. Topics related to trade and gambling have already been discussed quite a bit before. Some will say that the two are different, and some will say that both are the same from certain perspectives. Engage in trade in the way you have learned, developed, and enjoy your process. Those who start trading may not be too aware of the differences, but some beginner traders do get caught up in that process.
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hodler_2019Full Member
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#17May 16, 2018, 11:19 PM
If you don't have plans, you don't know what you're doing, you don't have target then it's simply a gambling as you are playing with the game of chance, looking for something that you are not sure about. Though trading itself is like gambling but if you know what you're doing, you have strategy and target then you have higher chance of ruining your money and can be really profitable. If I'm going to compare it to gambling it's more close to sports bet in my opinion.
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vault2011Full Member
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#18May 17, 2018, 04:52 AM
If we buy a coin or token that already has a product or real life use case, this can be said we are on trade, not a gamble (IMO). However, if we buy a new coin and we don't know whether it will have utility or is just a meme, we can be gambling on it, because we don't know the project will survive long-term or is just hype. We also don't know it will dump or pump or even run as a scam. If it pumps, let say we are success in gambling from trade new coins, and we've hit the jackpot.
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leo.wolfHero Member
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#19May 18, 2018, 03:49 AM
Actually it is not misconception trading definitely is similar to gambling because there is market speculation and this speculation can go either ways no matter your strategy, but I personally hold the opinion that even if it is similar, trading is not gambling of you’re trading properly. Just like you said some traders or maybe say gamblers do not trade but they simply use their emotions to buy and sell maybe base on their sentiments which doesn’t actually adds up. With the right knowledge I think one can actually be able to manage market conditions well, there are so many factors to consider while trading aside the analysis that the trading market needs like technical and fundamentals, the ability of the trader to actually be able to apply proper risk management, like know how many position size they need to put in, where there stop loss is to be at eliminate risks that’s makes it a gambling. Another way where a trader is like a gambler is when they consistently continue to trade same way and continue to lose, a proper trader knows when to actually stop and don’t revenge but rather they back tests
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miner2011Senior Member
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#20May 18, 2018, 08:21 AM
You know, OP, if an individual has the mindset that trading and gambling are the same, even before they start to learn or engage in trading, I can already say that they are not a trader. Because this is not the concept of being traders, don't they know that they can't just do it without learning? Instead, they should really study, learn the strategies that suit us, and even the tool indicators that will be helpful to us when we conduct analysis on the chart and other things.
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