Looks like the Trump family snagged ABTC.com for a whopping $700k. I'm not sure how he's planning to make that investment pay off, but it might actually be a positive thing for Bitcoin. On the flip side, he could be looking to downplay Bitcoin in favor of the Stablecoins he holds. What are people in the US thinking about Trump's connection to Bitcoin?
Trump's Bitcoin Ambitions
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ledgerlab97Member
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#2Jan 31, 2018, 08:39 AM
i am not from US, but I see it all as maximising profit where it can be done.. if BTC name would be ETH, and ETH overall would perform better, Trump would choose it, not something with lesser cap and name.
He doesn't go for the tech, but for hype and profit.
ABTC is a mining company own by the Trump family specifically Eric and Donald Trump jr
They came up last year around September or something
Though I didn't come across any news about them getting a domain name for $700K
Nothing much to the Company's net worth and they can gain from it since well
They control the biggest country in the world.
He's in it for the money
And it's involvement especially his sons owning companies on it may help with price
But at what cost.
block_vectorMember
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#4Jan 31, 2018, 12:01 PM
While neither I nor anybody else here can predict what Trump will do next, we can increase our odds of guessing right by understanding various things about his character and how he operates based on what we have all witnessed in his lifetime:
1. Trump will always do what is best for Trump. He does not care about the USA or any other country.
2. Trump will use the full power of the US government to make money for himself.
3. Trump's party will support him no matter what he does, moral or immoral, legal or illegal.
4. Trump doesn't know (or care) about technology, only about money.
5. Trump has run, and profited from, many different scams over the years, and understands that profession well.
6. Trump makes everything "cultural", and turns everything into a "us versus them" scenario.
It's also worth noting the overall environment that Trump operates in:
1. Trump is the most divisive president the US has ever had by a very large margin.
2. Trump has thus far been extremely lucky with the business cycle, presiding over a very good economy.
3. Trump embraced Bitcoin in 2024 and, based on the way he (and now his party) does things, he made Bitcoin and crypto "a Trump thing" in the eyes of most average people.
4. Trump's political fortunes could reverse themselves if the economy in the US faltered, and everything "Trump" would turn from cool to uncool.
5. Thus all of the positive attention that Trump's involvement with Bitcoin has brought could turn into a liability instead.
So with all of that in mind, if your questions is, will Trump's involvement in Bitcoin help the price of Bitcoin?
Short term, the answer is (and has been) obviously YES. While Trump's damage to the US economy is dragging on the price of Bitcoin, clearly the price would be drastically lower if the US president weren't actively pumping Bitcoin right now by promising to use the $trillions from the US government to prop it up. (Sen. Elizabeth Warren, a common Trump/Republican boogieman, is preemptively rallying her side around the battle cry, "NO BITCOIN BAILOUT!" Trump will get his party and the US government to be on the other side of that argument (even purely for the sake of argument, i.e. partisan politics).
But the prospect of a "Bitcoin bailout" from the US government is almost undoubtedly having a huge positive effect on the price of Bitcoin, so if that reversed, the price would plummet.
Longer term, I agree with the OP that a scenario where Trump made Bitcoin illegal in the US and forced everybody to trade their Bitcoin for TrumpCoin instead is not out of the question because:
A) That could make him an actual $trillionaire.
B) His party and his voters wouldn't care.
C) He could easily do it with the power of the US presidency (especially since he ignores the Congress and the Courts).
D) He could do it below the radar, quietly pressuring companies (say like Binance and CoinBase) to go his direction.
But there are all kinds of other scenarios that could happen as well that would enrich Trump. My "feeling" here is that he doesn't own enough of Bitcoin to work for its long-term interests, and he will instead find it easier to make more money by screwing over Bitcoin, but it's completely up to what he and his people think up.
orbit_hodlerMember
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#5Jan 31, 2018, 02:21 PM
One thing is that ABTC has more of Trump family involvement than any other coin with facts and figures present.
I also think Trump ain't trying to replace Bitcoin with his family stablecoin, but trying to have more influence in the financial ecosystem of the U.S by building a full stack system, being significant shareholders and agreeing to a profit sharing agreement plan just to benefit immensely from cryptocurrency investments.
I also think it is one of the reasons that the U S reserve crypto currency bank is functional and policies enacted to suit the rising adoption of cryptocurrency.
orbitdev429Member
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#6Jan 31, 2018, 03:46 PM
IF the involvement stuck to simply making Bitcoin better as in a better frame work and regulations for it and reverting all the previous attacks on Privacy, it would have been great. Bitcoin has however clearly become simply a tool to use in order to manipulate voters by making them believe they will become Rich if they vote for him. In this situation, as soon as I saw the 'TRUMP COIN' Scam followed by all the other Scams his family initiated, I knew this hope was all in vain and I have no more positive expectations.
My expectation is that his family will use this opportunity either to leverage their Shit Coins. Or, that they are planning some sort of opportunity yet again for Millionaires or Billionaires like he did with the Golden Visa or what ever that was called where you could throw a Million Dollars at them and be 'the special one'.
Like all the time. Do not have any expectations from Politicians.
falconhub394Newbie
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#7Jan 31, 2018, 05:10 PM
I dont the US guys will be surprise or think much about Trumps bitcoin involvement , the US guys and the world already knows that Donald Trump is a serial entrepreneur and investor.
Trump family bought ABTC.com for good reasons, sometimes we may not see any good reasons but good investors can make investment seeing a future others dont see.
vectorhq414Senior Member
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#8Jan 31, 2018, 06:26 PM
There are those within the Republican Party who oppose policies of Trump, but they have no voice compared to the majority of the popular base who feel victorious with Trump in power.
This is logic from the approach that Trump won't be the main mirror of this investment to avoid conflict of interest accusations, while he directs US policy towards more crypto adoption. I would also avoid that Trump is trying to replace bitcoin with any of his family coins (they are many), but willing to take his share from the crypto industry as a new emerging market.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/what-would-you-have-asked-for-abtc-com.1378897/#post-9566722
I'm not a US citizen, but it was like 5 months ago that this company has went public. And according to this filing, they have made $64.2 million.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1755953/000119312525281406/abtc-ex99_1.htm
I haven't seen how Trump interacts with Bitcoin. He only uses Bitcoin as a political tool, issuing regulations as a strategic reserve and only taking from confiscated goods, with no direct purchases by the government.
I emphasize Bitcoin as a political tool for him because it is real, so that he does not appear old-fashioned. on the other hand, it's being used as a tool to seek huge profits and as a gateway for his family to enter and disrupt the crypto market. You need to see how his scheme works to profit, starting from the $Trump $Melania meme and others. When he saw how profitable the stablecoin business model was, he started entering that space to compete for the market. And you're right, this might be one way to market the products he owns.
Trump is a businessman and a Politician so going by that, we should already know what is obtainable because he definitely would not be acting just like that without any benefit to derive from such actions or the move he wants to make. So I am not surprised to see what is going on because he will definitely have his interests protected, and that is a good business for him, though.
neonhub390Newbie
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#12Feb 1, 2018, 04:23 AM
I think he was only involved for the publicity.
That is what I thought from the beginning and I have not changed my mind since. He obviously just wanted more voters so he can become president. Now he is ready to throw the crypto community away.
Reduce the use of Bitcoin you say?
Do you mean that figuratively or its subjectively as it concerns the said company? Im asking because, I dont see how Trump can be able to reduce the use case of Bitcoin on a general base as I dont think hes got that kind of power due to the decentralized nature of Bitcoin.
As per promoting Stablecoins with hes initiative, he already tried that with his Trumpcoin and that didnt go so well. Most of the person that invest in Bitcoin or see reasons to invest in cryptocurrency today does that because of volatility which lacks a great deal with Stablecoins so, I dont think that would go so well for Trump.
Can anyone really take seriously anything that is coming from Trump these days?
He acts like a lunatic clown, and I sure he is blackmailed for something by someone.
I honestly don't trust him with this American Bitcoin thing, knowing he heavily promoted his shitcoins, sold fake gold phones, and other crap like that.
block_vectorMember
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#15Feb 2, 2018, 07:43 AM
If the US had elections today, Trump would have about a 50% chance of winning the election. His party is still 100% behind everything he does--even if it contradicts the thing he did just the day before (he got elected by promising "no more wars", and now his party defends all of his wars, for instance).
And since Trump has absolute control of his party, and his party is in the majority, then Trump has absolute control over the US government (and he ignores the Constitution and his party doesn't care).
So whether you like Trump or not, you can't ignore him. Trump could order the US to purchase $100 billion in Bitcoin and moon the price, or he could order that Bitcoin be made illegal in the USA and drop the price nearly to zero. Or anything in between.
cryptopro156Member
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#16Feb 2, 2018, 09:38 AM
There is something you need to understand about Trump victory in the united state. He had what he has today because of some reasons and the first one was:
1. Kamala was a bad choice to many Americans, many didn't expect Joe to be that bad but if he was healthy and strong, he would have gone band for band with Trump but Kamala as an option made the declaration dead from beginning. Many Americans will rather have a detector than have Kamala be their president.
2. He lowered his pride during campaigns and election, typical politician behavior, Trump was smart, he used everything he could against them all the way from policy enforcement, the things majority hated, he campaign on that, he made alot of promises to make US great again. He know he can't stand a better chance if he doesn't correct what many doesn't like about him but he is back to what he's known for, complete Lunatic and a mad queen president.
3. He promised to end war but who just started war with Iran, same Lunatic.
You see everything that is happening around Bitcoin, all those shit promises he made to Bitcoin community, they are fatal lies. Everything is run by his family, he knows nothing about crypto, just a regular noise maker.
orbitdev429Member
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#17Feb 2, 2018, 01:05 PM
Show me a successful politician who became a President, kept their promises and was not covered up in mud and lies by the time they started their Term. Politics work this way all the time. People are easy to fool, you can see this in action when the same people who shouted that Trump will end all wars are now supporting his wars for different reasons.
Never trust a politician, right?
Another main goal is make as much profit him, family and close circle can. Manipulating in ways for them to make more profits while the masses faces losses including him and his wife token, last year.
Anyway, I don't consider this to continue for way long. His influences will fall especially on Bitcoin, we have seen big influencer not having much say again and now we are in the points of something big and this is when a presidential head influence doesn't hold much again.
block_vectorMember
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#19Feb 5, 2018, 03:32 AM
Yes, but the minute Trump leaves the scene, Bitcoin will initially plummet in price since so much of today's Bitcoin price is based on Trump's support.
wolfone615Senior Member
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#20Feb 5, 2018, 09:39 AM
It's clear that he realized (well not him, he has no clue, he is old and barely senile and can't even put a sentence together, it's his family and friends who did) his name makes money in the crypto world way more than anything else.
He has been known to do very weird stuff in the past, like trump beef, or trump books that he did not even write, or whatever trump product he wanted to sell by putting on his name, none of them made him money and he bankrupted many business and was in high debt before he took the office. Right now, he is wealthier than he has ever been. He just makes nft's, coins, stablecoins, and whatever else with his name on it and his fans just give him money for no return, it's like donation but non-political version.
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