Warren Buffett Warns the Fed is Eroding Your Savings with 2% Inflation

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real_apeMember
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#1Nov 21, 2017, 12:02 AM
Warren Buffett, the investing legend who turned a small sum into over $100 billion, recently made a pretty eye-opening remark that everyone should think about if they care about their money. He claims that the Federal Reserve isn’t really safeguarding your cash; instead, it’s gradually making it lose value. Here’s a simple breakdown: The Fed aims for around 2% inflation each year. This means prices are on a steady rise, year after year. Buffett describes this as a compounding issue. He pointed out: Once you say you can handle 2%, that compounds quite significantly over time. Let me explain a bit: If your savings are just sitting there earning less than 2%, you’re not progressing; you’re actually regressing. For instance, if you save $1,000 today and inflation jumps to 2%, that cash will buy you less than it did before. Sure, it’s still $1,000, but its actual purchasing power has decreased. Now here’s the crux of the matter: The Fed likes to call this price stability, but the reality is that it’s steadily chipping away at your savings’ value each year. Buffett thinks this system is unfair to savers and benefits those who take risks or own assets. What’s even crazier is that the whole 2% target isn’t rooted in any solid scientific principle; it just started decades ago and became a global norm that most people just accepted without questioning. Meanwhile, inflation today often exceeds that 2% target, making things even worse. Buffett's bigger warning hints at issues within the banking system itself.
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sam2009Member
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#2Nov 21, 2017, 01:33 AM
i totally agree with this post it is crazy how we are taught that 2 percent inflation is normal when it actually just eats our savings every single year this is the main reason why people are moving towards bitcoin because you cannot just print more of it like the banks do with cash if you just leave your money in a bank account you are losing value while you sleep we need to hold assets that actually grow instead of just watching our hard earned money disappear because of these old rules saving cash is a trap these days and we have to find better ways to protect our future.
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the_k1ngSenior Member
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#3Nov 21, 2017, 04:32 AM
2% is a rounding error in most situations and is what most central banks aim for these days. It is a good target to have, because aiming for zero could result in deflation or stagflation scenarios which come with their own set of problems. Anybody using savings accounts as their primary way to invest have always been in danger, especially with the low rates that many will pay. Anybody who has done basic financial research would understand the bulk of your money should be in equity funds through your lifetime which can solve this problem. Those businesses will be adapting to the current economic environment much more quickly and setting up prices to beat inflation. Buffett is giving good advice, but you are blowing it out of proportion and context. Some people will accept losing some value in their money, in return for "rock steady" bank accounts.
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D4rkFalconSenior Member
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#4Nov 22, 2017, 10:56 PM
Inflation is like disease that slowly eaten you alive so in my opinion warren buffet was right if the fed had 4 percent inflation in a year and your interest money like 2 percent a year your money basically lose its valuation. In a simple term the cost of a burger is getting expensive one of the reasons is inflation too. US Dollar alone lose its value since 70's and getting worse and pretty much other country aswell.
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ColdAlphaSenior Member
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#5Nov 23, 2017, 02:29 AM
Only if you lack ambition inflation is working against you. This century is full of options for people all over the world. Take crypto, trading, stock exchanges, investing. Money exists as a tool, money needs to work. You don't work your money someone else will, Banks i.e. Or Exchanges. Safety is getting scarce too: https://cambridgecurrencies.com/dollar-safe-haven-decline-june2025/
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fox_2021Senior Member
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#6Nov 23, 2017, 04:41 AM
Wut? I don’t think WB started that small. These billionaires never do. You made it sound like he was living in scraps and then became a billionaire. I am pretty sure that was never the case for WB. The thing is, once you cover the basics and get a couple mils which produces enough passive income for your daily needs, from that moment on, everything compounds at a crazy speed. Now It is all about living long enough to see your wealth going to a billion usd. Warren is wut? 100 y.o? 2 million in 1956 invested into s&p500 (total returns) becomes 1.8 billion usd today. If it was invested in 1966, it would become ~800 million USD. WB’s net worth was 1 million when he was 30 in 1960. https://finmasters.com/warren-buffett-net-worth/
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#7Nov 23, 2017, 09:51 AM
The expected inflation was around 2% while the fact it could be even higher than it. This is why the price of goods have been rising so fast, while our buying power for 1k USD is getting less and less. No doubt he's been advising to hold less cash to avoid the bad scenario when we do nothing, but our money can be used to buy less and less goods or stuff. Inflation is always hitting hardest to the savers. So holding so many cash ain't reliable thing these days.
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#8Nov 23, 2017, 02:59 PM
That’s why keeping our wealth in the form of fiat currency, whether in a bank or a safe, will only cause the value of those assets to decrease every year. I believe we should only hold fiat currency for the short term. By that, I mean we should only use fiat when making transactions. And if there’s money left over or we have a lot of fiat, it’s better to exchange it for gold or anything else that isn’t affected by inflation. Inflation over a year might be reported at just 2% in the data, but in reality, the prices of goods and food in the market can sometimes rise by more than 5 percent or even over 10 percent, in a single year. So, the reported inflation rate often doesn’t reflect the actual inflation.
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dav3v1perSenior Member
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#9Nov 23, 2017, 08:29 PM
This is common knowledge, but it's funny how it may sound more "deep" coming from a billionaire. We have been talking about things similar to this on the forum forever. Saving money in fiat is handing your money over to inflation. People in the IS are even at an advantage because it's just a 2% inflation rate, people in developing countries where the inflation rate is at 5% or higher suffer it the most. There's a reason millionaires don't keep their money in fiat. They usually keep their money in assets. It's a resin why Bitcoin is important to us. Even though we can't keep our daily money and short term savings in bitcoin, we can keep most of our long term savings in bitcoin. So not only do we have a savings that cannot be affected by inflation, we have savings that can turn into investment if we hold for a long time.
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raven07Full Member
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#10Nov 24, 2017, 12:21 AM
2% is very low, what we feel is 6% or more even in the world of education the increase in school fees is more than 10% per year which makes it very difficult for many people here. Inflation is a parasite that continues to grow if you are not aware it will kill you slowly therefore we need inflation resistant assets such as bitcoin, gold or property which over time inflation increases in value also increases, do not keep money in cash or Fiat if it will not be used in the short term because it really makes you news, the results of your work will disappear 2% gradually.
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im_orbitMember
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#11Nov 25, 2017, 12:28 PM
I am  surprised to see people cry out for 2% inflation when we have been enduring over 20% inflation for close to a decade. I think shouldn't use something wrong to justify another because our situation is as a result od failure in leadership, a plague that have befallen the richest country in Sub Saharan Africa. Assuming we can get the leadership right, we have the natural resources, including mineral deposits, arable lands,  access to see and one of the best weather condition, some of enviable gifts of natural that should transform a nation and put the country as centre of attraction for all the good things of life. I think leaders all over the world are doing their best to keep the people poor and dependent. They internationally make policies that will stratify society into the rich and the poor abd are hell bent on widening the gap between them. This is why the inflation we see benefits some people even though majority of the citizens bear the brunt.
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atomichodlerFull Member
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#12Nov 25, 2017, 01:13 PM
I find it pretty ironic that they complain about %5 inflation, while there's way higher inflation in many countries around the world. Complaining about %2 feels unreal to me as I live in a country where sometimes even a monthly inflation rate of %2 is considered normal, so it's really hard for me to relate. High inflation has basically become a standard of living for us.
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#13Nov 25, 2017, 04:55 PM
It wtook me some time to realize how much inflation erodes our purchasing power and causes us to lose value constantly I’m not North American,  I’m from Brazil, and here inflation is very high, and, what’s more, it’s much higher than any government claims. If you go to the market, shop, fill up your car, buy medicine, etc., you know that inflation is never what the government reports, except in more specific cases of countries that manage to keep inflation low, like Switzerland and Japan One of our hopes with BTC is that, in the long term, we’ll beat inflation instead of leaving money sitting idle or in other types of investments
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GigaSatoshiFull Member
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#14Nov 25, 2017, 08:33 PM
Warren Buffett statement is correct: inflation is our enemy every year. In my country, the annual inflation rate can even exceed 2%. However, there's always a way to preserve your wealth, converting fiat currency into assets, as simply holding wealth in fiat currency is no longer useful. The sad truth is that rising inflation isn't always matched by rising incomes.
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jake_gweiSenior Member
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#15Nov 26, 2017, 12:59 AM
Everyone in this forum has been saying this for a long time. Hold bitcoin if you don't want to lose your wealth. People only look at 2% and said they're okay with losing the 2%, it's entirely different story if it is compounded loss. Inflation only affect people who don't know how to manage their money by investing it or make it grow. It's some kind of tax for financial illiterate people who just don't really care. Even with small number of 2%, it already outweigh the yield we are getting from saving our money in banks. What we need to do is to keep stacking asset that are limited in supply. From bitcoin, gold, silver, and many that are getting stable value appreciation.
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defi_2017Senior Member
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#16Nov 26, 2017, 01:46 AM
The thing is, they are two different things: one is inflation, and the other is the measure of inflation provided by governments, the CPI. The CPI is an index that is manipulated downwards so that people do not get upset and protest. While the cumulative effect of 2% or 3% inflation over several years is utterly destructive, it is even worse when we take into account real inflation, which is at least double that. That is why the only way to beat it is to invest in financial assets that offer a higher return. For example, Bitcoin, but not only that.
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king2011Full Member
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#17Nov 27, 2017, 12:17 AM
Yes, i think CPI not show individual reality because every person has different personalized basket, and CPI only macro image not personal experiences and not reflected lifestyle change. Real inflation based on subjective or personal consumption preference pattern.  Simply said people who often eat outside will feel higher inflation and family who has own house will feelinflation is low. What makes real inflation noticeably higher due to expenses concentrate for primary needed and its price increases were most noticeable and frankly speaking, income can not catch life expenses. For education inflation especially in my country i have different opinion, i think real education inflation always high above the CPI, because education is commodity with high increased demand but limited cheaper option withsame quality. All three of my kids are studying on private school, what i see, school foundation face request for update and upgrade facility and technology with profesional teacher and international acreditation which push cost increases consistenly. When many school compete for quality and branding meet with parent's demand for best education, price rise up also due to value perception. From my experiences for education fund, beside inflation, parent must also calculate cost escalation due to change of educational level, expensive entry cost each transition level and upgrade on education lifestyle and branding. Beside that need to claculate and prepare additional cost sucah as uniform, educational activities, donation and other cost. For education cost spike preparation, i should make long term investment focusing on growth with high consistency sustainability but me and my wife decide to choose gold and real export business for fighting expensive cost and we have start preparing education fund for my kids since my wife pregnant.
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D4rkFalconSenior Member
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#18Nov 27, 2017, 05:46 AM
Yes I do agree and in reality lot of people are suffering "inflation against everyone" only small group of people that really had money works for them. Tho personally im still atleast trying to fake that slow monster called inflation I ask google that inflation is needed to keep economy move. Its also a great article bro and damn Dollar No Longer the Default Safe Haven The dollar’s weakening role as a crisis currency marks a significant change in global financial dynamics. As gold and foreign currencies rise in favor, investors should watch for shifts in central bank policy and consumer data as early signals of broader economic trends.
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bridge100Senior Member
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#19Nov 27, 2017, 10:41 AM
He built his entire wealth around this idea, to beat out the inflation and grow faster. He is not saying that %2 is a problem for him, he is not saying it's a problem for a good investor, he is saying if that's something that is going to happen, and in normal cases we have even more than 2 percent so we do have this problem, and all you do is get salary and spend it and repeat every single month, you will be broke one day. What he is suggesting, is to get ahead of it. It means, if you are a young guy, starting new, and you get salary, save half of your salary start up, because you are probably living with your parents, spend the half on helping out your family, and waste the first 3-4 years saving the other half, and investing good, like warren did. Do that, and rest is a lot easier.
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0xChadFull Member
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#20Nov 27, 2017, 11:22 AM
It is a mechanism of classes, not a conspiracy. The constant 2% inflation has a huge variance on the people based on what they possess. When you own assets, they will be increasing at or better than inflation. You are hedged almost passively, and you tend to make no decision. But suppose your savings account is the sole store of value? You're running on a treadmill that's slightly faster than you every year. Buffett currently has more than $350 billion of cash and short-term treasuries. He is sitting, very intentionally, on the sidelines. Not that he forgot about inflation. He knows the other risks: the interconnections of the banking system, the panic process, the latent vulnerabilities that he has hinted at. He therefore is able to wait. And what does the common man do, who must make a choice with that which he really possesses, this week, in this system? Keep money, lose a little, unseen. Take a chance, might win, might lose it all. It is a forced choice that is made up purely of rules that they did not write. And that must make people really angry. The majority of people simply do not know what, or who.
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