They're in demand right now.
Iran has a big stash of rare earth elements mainly found in phosphate and iron-apatite deposits, plus there's some in coal ash. Also, you can find these elements mixed in with bauxite and copper deposits as well.
Israel's gonna act on this, but honestly, it could lead to better trading options and give a solid boost to the Western economy once they manage to tap into those resources.
West urgently needs rare earth minerals from Iran
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https://www.metalsweekly.news/where-in-the-world-are-all-of-the-rare-earth-elements/
gwei_minerSenior Member
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#3Feb 14, 2017, 07:03 AM
One thing you must also understand is that rare earth minerals largest reserve is in china does not mean that the rare earths are from china or are they found in china, they are found in most of the destabilized countries by china and sent other there to make it a reserve and when they cant mine it directly from the countries that has it especially Africa they partner with the country to make there mineral reserves in china, the USA and France does the same too but are not as big into it as china because they have the force of technology.
Rare earths arent rare so its a confusing topic. What is required is cheap labor and ability to mine in gigantic amounts easily and that might not be true of many countries.
China has focused on this pivotal area for decades through many prior leaders to this one so its a long term standing policy for them to use it as leverage in global trade and other sectors. Its messy as I understand it and USA is not likely to mine quite as cheaply even if similar reserves were located in a clear open space.
The importance of rare earth minerals is extremely overrated. I'm not saying that rare earth minerals aren't important, but their importance has been overrated by the media and some "analysts". It's weird how everyone on the mainstream media started talking about rare earth minerals in the last 3 years. Nobody cared about rare earth minerals before 2022. Iran doesn't have a big amount of rare earth minerals. Just don't get into any conspiracy theory. The Iranian regime must be dethroned mostly because of geopolitical reasons, not because of resources or economical reasons.
I'm tired of people claiming that US is only conducting strikes and operations to extract natural resources, every time there is a protest or a revolution in another country. We're not Russia FFS. We don't *need* things like oil since we already have our own natural gas reserves.
The Iranian people have been suffering for a very long time under the regime of Khameni. Let them have their freedom of change if they want.
This is there less concern now since US is already the top oil producing country this year https://www.investopedia.com/investing/worlds-top-oil-producers/
So provably those actions they have done is for strategic security and also on human right to.
US provably know that Iran is strategic place especially that they have influence on shipping lanes in Persian Golf. So with that US actually don't need much the oil of this country, but rather they maybe try to protect their trade routes, also other things that threat to their country or maybe on other countries to. This is more realistic reason that always claiming that they are going to seize or get the natural resources of those countries.
wallet_bullFull Member
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#8Feb 15, 2017, 01:21 AM
Did you actually say the USA should attack Iran and take it over? The USA needed oil, and they attacked Venezuela, and I think you know it very well. Trump started threatening other countries as if he would take over most of the world. If they need something from another country and that country is not strong with weapons, the USA will attack that country and loot everything. The USA is not attacking China because it knows the strength of China. Attacking China will backfire. They are not doing it against Russia as well for the same reason.
Of course, the US, and the CIA in particular, always could use some extra allies in the region and this is the more common reason for American involvement in those places. But if reports are to be believed, I don't really see them getting really involved in those protests right now.
Israel is obviously a different story, they are naturally embedded into Iranian politics with all the extinction threats they've been receiving from them.
SwiftOrbitSenior Member
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#10Feb 15, 2017, 07:14 AM
The US goes to war in Iraq, they want oil! Meanwhile, 60% of Iraqi oil is extracted by China!
The US goes to war in Afghanistan, it sits on 10000 quadrillions of minerals, the US pulls back without extracting one ton!
US bombs Serbia, it's because Kosovo has gold...yeh lol...the theory existed
The US could bomb Tristan da Cunha and some will say it's about some magical oil or gold or whatever!
The US is the largest producer of oil!
They have so much oil that even if OPEC cuts production, the price still goes down
The whole thing was cutting China off from discounted oil and fucking Iran with their deals.
I'm aware but thx to point it out to the community.
Destabilized countries? Depending widely on the press and those journalist isn't it?
So, it's not because of resources? Hm, then why so many wars and bombs? I guess there must be some reason...
Since I am from Serbia, I am interested in hearing your opinion... I have heard about that "gold" theory. Do you have others as well? Which one is the real truth?
Or they could do it without any reason... just because they can, and that's alright? Or I am missing the point of your "funny comment" about wars, bombs, deaths...
vault_2013Member
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#13Feb 15, 2017, 03:36 PM
With all the wars that the US has been funding for over a half a century, should've been pretty obvious that that's what they're after, that's why they continue waging wars on different parts of Middle East, because they have a lot of precious resources that the US desperately needs to keep up with the other superpower nations. This is pure capitalistic greed in full display, there's no person that has stand up to it yet because everyone that tried either got corrupted, blackmailed, or got a cut in the profits.
ledger_novaFull Member
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#14Feb 15, 2017, 03:49 PM
Even though you're a patriotic citizen, you should still be courageous to accept the truth when you see it and we can all agree that the US government has tried for years to bring about several regime changes in Iran but have failed woefully. They have tried to suffocate them with sanctions for years. Nobody's saying you' are Russia but you have never been the good guys. Natural gas reserves and your president still breaks international law by invading Venezuela and trying to sell and control her oil.
No, the citizens in the United States of America are suffering. Make America great again can not be achieved by all these busy bodies the pedophile president is busy doing. Let America resources be for the American people.
And the Pink Elephant in the room is Greenland, and in the eyes of D.Trump its an easy
takeover target.
This is more in line with the thread title - rare earth minerals and the need to try and catch up with China and India.
and also that military spending creates a lot towards a countries economic activity, but there
needs to be a demand to continue production, the demand obviously comes from war.
It is strange to hear comments that the US didn't invade Venezuela for its economic benefits. There might be other reasons for the toppling of Nicolás Maduro, but the country's oil reserve is one of the cardinal reasons. Yes, the US wants to whittle down Russia and China's influence in the Western Hemisphere, yet the US would benefit largely from Venezuela's resources.
I doubt if the US is targeting any resources in Iran. The US wants Israel to become a superpower in the Middle East, and Iran is a threat to that ambition. Removing the Islamic governemnt in Iran will give the US full control over that region.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4grxzxjjd8o
gwei_minerSenior Member
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#17Feb 16, 2017, 03:26 PM
Not really, if you visit most African countries you will find out that they are really suffering compared to a wide range of countries in the western world meanwhile they own the raw materials, some countries have signed contracts with nations not to use their own resources,
I cant remember the country that wasnt able to sell diamond to a popular streamer, they said they are not allowed to sell to anyone except the people who control the resources.
Iran is similar to many religious countries that use it to suppress the population or make them conform to government demands while their rulers live the life of luxury. The people have been trampled on for decades now and unfortunately the government have built an apparatus to strangle the average person who might disagree with their leadership. Many other governments that think they can quell uprisings have been overthrown in recent history, it just takes a few sparks or the right people to tumble before it all falls apart. Currently the religious gangs are killing many innocent people and they will eventually be held accountable, communication is difficult because the internet and phone networks are cut off - it is effective at censoring the riots or stopping gatherings, but it also destroys any remnants of the economy in the process - making the situation even more likely to implode.
wallet_bullFull Member
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#19Feb 17, 2017, 12:31 AM
Probably you are right. Even though they are the largest producer of oil, that does not mean they do not need oil. As Trump already said, they will sell the oil and take back what they have invested before. They will make more money selling the oils that they will seize from Venezuela. Also, the reason you mentioned make some sense. USA do not want their enemy countries to have anything at a cheap price.
Also, I have heard that Greenland has rare earth minerals which is not reported officially. Most of the Greenlands land is intact and they do have explosive ureniums as well. So, this is one of the reason Trump want to takeover Greenland.
Doesn't matter if it's Venezuela, Greenland, Iran or wherever else that they want to invade next. There will come a time, where USA will not have any place they can abuse anymore and when that happens, the excessive spending that they have will make them run out of options.
They can do whatever they want right now, grow their GDP thanks to humiliating and destroying others, and that's fine, because nobody they fought so far was big enough to stand against them, they are the bully in high school, picking on toddlers, they are not brave enough to go after someone on their size. But, those small nations will run out of resources eventually, and when that happens USA will end up with nothing because they won't get anything from anyone.
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