What's Riskier: Making Market Predictions or Ignoring Them?

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4tla52011Full Member
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#1Mar 3, 2020, 04:06 AM
I keep seeing traders online say not to predict the market, but rather to just react to what’s happening. They suggest letting the market show its direction and then respond accordingly. I get that it works for some, but I wanna argue that predicting the market whether we mean to or not can actually have its benefits. After all, getting good at this often takes trial and error. I believe that with time, our predictions can become more accurate, maybe even 50% of the time or more. So, do you think these two approaches can coexist, or do you prefer one over the other? If you’ve got a preference, share your thoughts on why. The reason I’m bringing this up is that everyone’s buzzing about where to buy Bitcoin or how to double down. I’m doing it too. So it makes me question my own stance, and I might be indirectly calling out those who are too.
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calmsatMember
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#2Mar 3, 2020, 07:04 AM
no one can ever fully predict the market. at the same time, it doesn’t make much sense to react to every market move, because once something has already happened, you can’t turn back time. selling when a decline begins or buying in the middle of a rally always leads to regret in the end. in my opinion, what people need is a plan they can stick to for the long term, whether or not it makes you money. no one can monitor what’s happening in the world 24/7, and there’s no need to. you simply follow the strategy you believe in for a set period and check the results.
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laser420Full Member
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#3Mar 3, 2020, 10:33 AM
I think here they're simply saying never trade against the market trend but flow with the trend because going against the trend is too risky than setting your trade in the direction the trend is pointing towards to. Yes, few times it could reverse and fail you but more often than not, going with market trand has being more profitable for traders than doing the opposite.
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bridge_atlasFull Member
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#4Mar 3, 2020, 04:14 PM
I don't think there is any that is more dangerous than the others. You can make a prediction and make the right call, or you can refuse to react to the market and make the wrong call and vice versa. The market is very unpredictable, which is why a majority of traders make losses while a few that know what to do make the profits. We have fake-outs, bull and bear traps, and sometimes, whoever good you are, you could get fooled.
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#5Mar 3, 2020, 05:10 PM
I mean, predicting the market and speculations, and just normal, we always predict what is going to happened in the market that is why we are continuesly investing into it, because in the future we predict that it might hit a certain market price, so it might always be the case, even though it might not go as plan as always because we see a huge market drop. Refusing to reach the market? It's difficult to react to the market because most of the time you're not going to realize what is happening in the market, and the moment you realize it it's usually too late for you to react already. Most of the time, you're just going to predict what is going to happen in the market in order to make a profit from it. Investing itself is already dangerous it's risky since it's cryptocurrency, so most of this doesn't matter anymore because we all know that cryptocurrency is a risky asset already so it doesn't matter we are all investing into it and predict it for future gains.
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coin_sigmaLegendary
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#6Mar 3, 2020, 09:40 PM
I think based on what I understand about react to what you are seeing, take action based on the current trend. Most of the people here and my old experience: we always go buying if we see the price drops but we are doing it in a wrong way. The whole point for me is to react to the market if you see the price direction is bearish, meaning you take a position only in a short position, you just need some condition before you enter. No prediction is needed; we do TA on the market to look for probabilities. Look at the market, how it reacts to support and resistance, and the trend in the Fibonacci sequence. As you can see, the market reacts to those levels based on the past data and chart; you should react and take a position with the right conditions to win a trade. In short, if you see the market in an uptrend, go for long, or if the market is in a downtrend, go for short; no predictions and no guesses. We are just following the trend and not against it.
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greggweiFull Member
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#7Mar 5, 2020, 07:55 PM
Most of the time, my reactions are wrong. Sometimes my predictions are right. I think this also applies to every person who is trying to predict the market or react to it. It's unpredictable. That's a fact. We cannot tell what two big investors will do. What more if there are millions of them? If they try to sell now, it will fluctuate down, and vice versa if they are buying. I think both are dangerous, and we must always be careful about what we do next. Either you react fast or do nothing can matter, and we will have to live with the results.
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LoneRocketSenior Member
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#8Mar 6, 2020, 01:13 AM
Yes, many traders advise against predicting the market and instead to react to what they see. This advice may work at times, but not always, because the market is volatile and may change direction at any moment. Therefore, in all cases, you should trade cautiously. Many problems can occur in React the market trend. For example, if you see the market going down and then buy a coin because its price is low, but the coin continues to go down, what do you do then? You must have a suitable strategy for all situations.
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t0ny_gangFull Member
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#9Mar 6, 2020, 04:11 AM
No problem to predict the market but you should react based on the situation so you can take benefit. But if you feels difficult to follow the market, you should calm down and just watching the market moves. That will be better so you can deciding for next step from the market and you should adjust the market moves so we can see our chances to profit from the market and realize what happening on the market. No need in hurry to react but be careful so you can avoid the big risk if you decide to trade.
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hodler2019Legendary
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#10Mar 6, 2020, 08:22 AM
asking your question dooms you to failure. pick a coin buy 1000 buck worth and hold it. deciding when to buy or sell is far less important than doing nothing and waiting . being able to wait is what you need to practice.
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paulyieldSenior Member
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#11Mar 6, 2020, 09:56 AM
It's all about risk to reward ratio dude. If you are predicting the market, be sure to get the highest RR otherwise you are timing the market which is a no go. I sometimes ride the hype and get a good profit out of it. Truly nothing wrong with it but if you can predict and get the best timing ever your profit will be magnitude higher. When you are confused between the two, always remember that predicting the market is only good if you are confident with your analysis and worst case scenario isn't disastrous for your margin account. Such as predicting the bottom of the cycle, if you succeed you might easily 3x your money but it comes with additional risk if you compare it to riding the hype train.
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eric23Senior Member
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#12Mar 6, 2020, 11:31 AM
Traders will always predict the market because they are always after short term returns. If you're a trader, you don't sit back and wait only to react after the market has made certain move. As a matter of fact, your ability to come out successful on your trading really plays out when you're able to outsmart the market. With this, it's clear outsmarting the market is a big deal and that also makes it clear that predicting the market is almost like you're gambling. Investors are not too interested in short term market sentiments. Particular those investors that are investing with the DCA, all they need is to set up a good investment plan and remain committed to continuous investment at regular intervals till they've reached Thier target.
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just_novaFull Member
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#13Mar 6, 2020, 01:09 PM
Predicting the market and reacting to the market direction can absolutely co exist, from what I've come to understand, many successful traders do a bit of both but some might not even tell you. Each time you enter a trade based on your analysis, you're technically predicting that the market will move in your favour. The problem I don't think is predicting but being stubborn with your prediction. If the market is moving against you and you refuse to react because you feel you're right with your prediction, you'll most likely get liquidated. Predicting the I think is what makes you a trader but reacting when necessary is what actually keeps you in the market.
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GigaSatoshiFull Member
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#14Mar 6, 2020, 07:05 PM
You can fail by simply following what you see, and conversely, you can also fail by constantly predicting the market. The market isn't easy to predict, and any reaction from an asset isn't always successful if followed. What percentage of traders are successful? Only a fraction; the rest are contributors. This is the truth.
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yield_moonFull Member
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#15Mar 6, 2020, 11:35 PM
Some people have a certain plan that they will not deviate from. In investing you have to be flexible and be able to react to whatever the market decides to do. Nobody has a crystal ball, we can’t plan for every eventuality. Sometimes you have to buy when it feels like it’s risky. You might sell even though you think there is more potential upside. We just have to do our best and don’t panic sell.
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chris365Full Member
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#16Mar 7, 2020, 03:32 AM
The market trend is also your direction, there is no way that you’ll be trading against the market, if you do so, you will be risking your money most of the time and can lead to liquidation when it gets happening always. The market is very understandable to determine its direction but it still remains unpredictable for all. You may even get the direction of the market right, but you may not still get what you want from the market right because of those uncertainties in it that makes it very difficult to predict. It is better to go with the right mindset and then allow the market to do its thing.
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sat_2018Senior Member
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#17Mar 7, 2020, 06:18 AM
Prediction should be reaction, how else are you judging the price if you arent paying any attention to the clues you are being given.  There are multiple time frames to pay attention to, 5 mins or even the last few days doesn't have to matter much in guidance, but nothing can be ignored.   Volume is the biggest signal of where price will go and is clear on where it has been, it does matter how many bought and sold at each price as it adds significance.   Of the two  if I have to choose, you must react to price action but I dont mean immediately buying but in your thinking and consideration its a given you react to market moves.
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benledgerSenior Member
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#18Mar 7, 2020, 07:10 AM
Predicting the market is not dangerous if you know what you are doing, there may be added risk if you think you know how to predict the market but in reality you dont know. Refusing to act to the market doesn't carry any danger. Reacting to the market becomes less relevant the longer you HODL your Bitcoin. Everyone sees something different in the market movements and a lot of people have their own predictions and analysis and people reacting to the market happens at every price point so who is right and who is wrong? where is the danger if you look ling term?
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WildBearSenior Member
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#19Mar 7, 2020, 12:15 PM
With all of the points about this topic, it all leads that we can be always in the same side of it. Reacting is easy to say when something is happening in the market but are you ready for it when it actually happens? In our own words, we think that we can. But when the actual thing comes, it hits differently to be honest and that's why even some experience investors still makes mistakes.
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d4rk5tackSenior Member
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#20Mar 7, 2020, 05:50 PM
Exactly I think this is the question that the OP is actually looking to ask maybe if one should predict the market that is go against the market trend or stick to it. The most less risky advice is actually to follow the trend of the market going against the market is like only you trying to go against lots of traders. If the trend is clearly bearish you only look for possible sell options and if it’s actually bullish you do look for buy options. Other than that you’re risking more. Yes there are cases where you might want to take a risk of actually going against the market trend but that’s actually dependent on what exactly is giving you that confluence, for example if there is a strong fundamental to change the market trend you can actually go for it but this time with more caution as you apply strict risk management and that’s like a very tight stop loss
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