Honestly, these coins are old and kinda pointless. ETH has such high fees, it feels like robbery. And then there's BTC with its slow transactions and the annoying wait for confirmations. It’s just not good enough. BTC has a nice backstory, sure, but both BTC and ETH might just end up as relics in the crypto world with no real use.
Let's face it, Blackrock buying BTC is just a hype move. And the whole mining narrative? Yeah, that’s a bunch of nonsense too.
There are plenty of other cryptos, like Tron, that actually have potential, while BTC and ETH feel like dead weights.
"Smart money" is definitely interested in crypto, but it’s not looking at BTC and ETH. Me? I’m staying far away from them. I wouldn’t hold a single dollar in those two. They appeal to the FOMO crowd, people who jumped in late, and a lot of them are gonna get burned by these so-called "tulip mania" coins.
I know the top coins bankers will back, and those are the ones that’ll make you really rich. BTC, LTC, and ETH? They’re just junk.
Why I think BTC and ETH are losing relevance
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Both bitcoin and ether transaction fees are very low now. It has been long since bitcoin mempool become congested. Maybe you are using a centralized service that is having high withdrawal fee but most of the fee goes to the centralized platforms and not bitcoin miners.
You do not have to use bitcoin. You can go for shit coins.
I paid $0.05 with a fee rate of 0.4 sat/vbyte for my last bitcoin transaction.
https://mempool.space/tx/e8aea1861131ce75c2abfdf4aef5ad5cff27e3aedcc96cf0f9cca4b00e103e2c?mode=details
You can not use less than 1 sat/vbyte for bitcoin transaction.
luckyvaultMember
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#3May 24, 2026, 06:45 PM
Are you trying to promote TRX and discredit BTC and ETH? Bitcoin and altcoins are not meant to be categorized in the same way. If you want to compare something, you put all the shitcoins together and keep Bitcoin outside.
Nobody forces anybody to invest in Bitcoin; we all have our choices to make, but altcoins are too risky. If there is anything to be afraid of dumping on investors, that should be altcoins and not Bitcoin. Even if the price drops, there is a higher chance of recovery than any other crypto.
What are these?
Not bad because of USDT it seems that the coin has been lively like ETH that's being used to stable coins and also the others. Not a problem if you think BTC and ETH are not good to hold. I'm holding it and I am happy with the portfolio that I have which these two are a part of it.
Really, when last did you perform a transactions using bitcoin or ethereum, i think the fees are low now and for some reasons you may habe been systematically chilling for another coin because bitcoin at the moment have huge usability much more than most ofnrhe coins that parade themselves as low fast transactions coins for daily bills payments.
This doesn't make bitcoin useless or less value than shitcoins. Bitcoin is the most reliable and valuable coin to invest in, and no other coins has these qualities and this is what makes Bitcoin the best among all.
Tron remains fiat and people will always look up to Bitcoin because it has a future. 1 Tron = $1 at all times but 1 btc will always give many figures in dollars.
I am sober that you are comparing bitcoin to shitcoin ethereum and the rest of her children. This shows that you don't have the understanding of how bitcoin work. Bitcoin is the only coin with great utility with no any other shitcoin has all together of what bitcoin is used for. You need to go and read more about bitcoin and understand that transaction fee can never be a barrier to bitcoin potentials.
Bitcoin is king and increases in value overtime is that what you call useless. I don't think that you even have bitcoin talk more of making transactions to see that the transaction fee is below 1sat/vbyte
ledger_gweiFull Member
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#8May 26, 2026, 01:37 PM
Dumbest take I've ever seen if i'm being honest. You trying to fud on BTC and ETH then present us TRON as if it's the shiny new thing, in reality TRON literally have nothing going on except for stablecoin transfer and trust me within 6 months that will be gone too because Plasma, STBL, and other stablecoin blockchain are currently getting developed.
Pretty weak fud, the reasoning isn't even proper. There's reason why BTC is valued so high and ETH could lock almost a hundred billions of TVL unlike TRON.
In the first place, OP, we don't really care about the belief in that thing. You can say whatever you want to say about them, it's your choice and decision anyway.
Do what you want to do, that's all there is to it, OP, and we will also do what we want to do here, regardless of which coins we want to set up for long-term holdings.
And besides, we're not here to please everyone. Instead, we are here to seek out other potential crypto assets aside from Bitcoin and Ethereum,
which have truly already proven themselves in this crypto space industry.
Sounds like something a degenerate penny stock type meme coin investor would say. Bitcoin is the best coin in the space & its not even close. Decentralised, time proven & youre not going to get rug pulled by scammy devs. Ethereum is a great coin too. Do you feel like this because you feel you cant afford to but whole coins? If so change your mindset, Bitcoin is not a get rich quick tech but its a dont get poor tech. It will protect you from inflation & currency debasement. No problem buying cheaper coins but be careful you dont over invest & get ruined.
You sound like Tron maximalist. The better for you stop blindly bashing BTC and ETH start to realize the fact that even Justin sun is Bitcoin and Ethereum believers. I know BTC and ETH are slow, but they still have many users. If you wanna better experience just use lightning network and L2.
The reality is that some people will keep thinking this way, there is nothing that we can do about it, we have to accept it as reality. I know that it is not going to be great for us but we have to accept that some people will make bad decisions. Let them think BTC and ETH are bad, that is their decision and if they keep that decision then they are going to be the ones who lose money and not us, so there is nothing that is bad for us.
We have to focus on what we can do to be better and as long as we can make money, then we shouldn't care about their opinions. Also, it is good to remember that fullbear is a troll, and if you check all the topics he started, he is just trolling, to what gain? I do not know, never understood.
I read everything in OP and none of it makes any sense. Bitcoin tx fees have been on the low end for almost 2 years despite the fact that the retail and institutional interestin Bitcoin have grown exponentially in the same time period. What about ETH? Ethereum fees went as low as < 1 gwei and it is no longer high for the last couple of months as most projects just build on one of the many Ethereum Layer2s and that has helped with the high gas fees. Yet you say both coins are dead and couldn't even justify it.
Idk if anyone has said this yet but TRX fees have almost go up 10x from what they used to so your claim is false and likely a paid shill.
Spreading FUD while the truth is you are butthurt for missing the boat.
You are not alone, but you don't really have to do this. Those two coins are the reason why all of this happened, and I sincerely doubt anyone would think about this in many years if Satoshi hadn't. It's the discovery that is valued, at least give that an appreciation and respect if you cannot swallow the truth that Bitcoin is the king of all cryptocurrencies. When it comes to transactions, it's cheaper now because there's not a lot of traffic lately.
You say you are smart. That's cool. Maybe use that smartness to discover a new way to do all of this, and who knows, maybe you will become the next Satoshi.
ledger_gweiFull Member
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#15May 28, 2026, 05:39 AM
ETH is floating around 0.1 - 0.3 gwei for most of the time. It's only when there's airdrop claiming or FCFS event that the fee will increase because everybody want to be the first and few minutes later the fee going down again.
But the current ETH fee I think is fair to reward the validator.
It seems OP didn't do his homework about how cheap actually BTC and ETH is nowaday compared to tron. If I want to use centralized blockchain I might as well use BSC not tron.
yes you're right.
It seems he doesn't know anything about BTC and ETH. Suddenly he is here sharing lies and random things about the most important coins. Where nothing is available in the market except these important coins, he is making random comments about the coins ha ha.
Even for a shiny new thing, most of them are much worse than Tron. A lot of people can still treat Tron like ETH and both calls them a shit, I don't really know why. Tron still has its own advantage compared to heavy coins like ETH. It is good for payment purposes. Tron is not new in the scene but it is still here despite us seeing new innovations in the space. With its experience, I think there is a good chance that it will still be here after so many years have passed.
There should be other/ deep reasons behind it because if it is only about the price, then it is still possible for him to buy big coins in smaller parts and still get a decent result.
In fact it can be, due to its high volatility. It can as well make one poor if they did not know the basics.
ledger_2011Member
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#18May 28, 2026, 11:38 AM
Kind of delusional thing to say from both coins which have the most capitalization value of the market and the highest volume as well.
Also, you gotta keep in mind most of the volume we all see from Tron is due to its utility to move Tether around at relatively low fees prices, if it was not for that fact then the volume of the Blockchain would be significantly lower than we see today.
Bitcoin will continue to increase in price in the long term because the supply will continue decrease and adoption increase, while Ethereum will keep it's reliability.
Instead of focusing on shitcoins and projects which could easily ruin you, be wise and stick to time proven projects, even Litecoin has more future than the average shitcoin one can find right now on this market.
Anyways, I still hope you won't lose all your money betting on shitcoins and scams.
bear_shardNewbie
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#19May 28, 2026, 12:36 PM
I understand where you're coming from, but calling BTC and ETH ''dead projects'' is not something i read every day.
For sure the awaiting confirmations are not good and the slow transactions, but this is not always the case.
Looking back at BTC and ETH performance-wise on long term charts (4yr+_), i would say.. not bad right?
And for TRON im not a huge fan of it, but yes it does have good points and a solid looking future.
wallet_omegaMember
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#20May 28, 2026, 12:51 PM
Are you drunk or out of mind when you call bitcoin got no use case? Being a currency is more than a peak that any asset could achieve. Gold was a currency but for modern online ear, we need gold on electronic format and bitcoin is serving exact that purpose. Do you still call bitcoin got no use case? Do you need that bitcoin to be used in physical format up to the level like you use it from your wallet to paying in a corner shop? I read that in some countries, people are making use of contactless payments by using QR codes and smart phones and I believe those scenarios are pre-bitcoin phase and we are definitely heading toward that.
I am not sure about ETH because it is not a currency still it hosts smart contact and providing platform for tokeneconomics. So, ETH also got a real use case. The use case of ETH may face touch competition from other similar coins whereas becoming up to the level of being used as currency may not be possible for any other coin or probably stablecoins may give big challenge to bitcoin but that are just centralized ones and people will never trust them for storing and using.
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